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Post by Werebeaver on Jun 22, 2023 7:41:46 GMT -8
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Post by irimi on Jun 22, 2023 8:08:59 GMT -8
Just at the twilight of the gas industry. Oregon is so timely. |
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Post by speakthetruth on Jun 22, 2023 8:11:17 GMT -8
With the reduction in labor costs gas prices will not decrease.
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Post by NativeBeav on Jun 22, 2023 9:03:33 GMT -8
Just at the twilight of the gas industry. Oregon is so timely. We shall see. Interestingly, there are better replacement technologies than what is being currently pushed. I agree with the Oregon being so timely, though |
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Post by irimi on Jun 22, 2023 9:48:32 GMT -8
Just at the twilight of the gas industry. Oregon is so timely. We shall see. Interestingly, there are better replacement technologies than what is being currently pushed. I agree with the Oregon being so timely, though I agree as well. Would love to get my hands on a Toyota Mirai, but not enough to move to California. |
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Post by irimi on Jun 22, 2023 9:49:48 GMT -8
With the reduction in labor costs gas prices will not decrease. Gas companies and new car salesmen always get their price. |
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Post by NativeBeav on Jun 22, 2023 10:08:54 GMT -8
With the reduction in labor costs gas prices will not decrease. Gas companies and new car salesmen always get their price.  I am in sales - it is never good to be called a used car salesman. Lots of hands in the pot - like Warren Buffett and his oil trains  |
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Post by NativeBeav on Jun 22, 2023 10:10:22 GMT -8
We shall see. Interestingly, there are better replacement technologies than what is being currently pushed. I agree with the Oregon being so timely, though I agree as well. Would love to get my hands on a Toyota Mirai, but not enough to move to California. Ha Ha - that is exactly the technology I was thinking of when you posted this - I must admit - I had to look up the Mirai - did not know it was Hydrogen technology! |
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Post by irimi on Jun 22, 2023 10:24:10 GMT -8
I agree as well. Would love to get my hands on a Toyota Mirai, but not enough to move to California. Ha Ha - that is exactly the technology I was thinking of when you posted this - I must admit - I had to look up the Mirai - did not know it was Hydrogen technology! Mirai means ‘future’ in Japanese. It’s why Toyota hasn’t joined the fully electric car race. |
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Post by wilkyisdashiznit on Jun 22, 2023 15:12:33 GMT -8
Gas companies and new car salesmen always get their price. I am in sales - it is never good to be called a used car salesman. Lots of hands in the pot - like Warren Buffett and his oil trains Hey, I own stock in those trains! No more the pipelines! Trains, man! More trains! The more middlemen the better! |
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Post by ag87 on Jun 22, 2023 15:20:16 GMT -8
You would be surprised on how connected things can be. When I was deep in the rail world from about 2007 to 2012, my boss was in a meeting with Boone Pickens and his crew about using BNSF right-of-way to move wind energy from Kansas to SoCal. The idea never went far but oil men are not married to oil if they can make money in other ways.
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Post by wilkyisdashiznit on Jun 22, 2023 15:29:19 GMT -8
You would be surprised on how connected things can be. When I was deep in the rail world from about 2007 to 2012, my boss was in a meeting with Boone Pickens and his crew about using BNSF right-of-way to move wind energy from Kansas to SoCal. The idea never went far but oil men are not married to oil if they can make money in other ways. God bless America! |
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Post by irimi on Jun 22, 2023 16:17:36 GMT -8
Mirai means ‘future’ in Japanese. It’s why Toyota hasn’t joined the fully electric car race. Problems with H tech as I understand it It takes more energy to obtain the H than one gets out of the H. Hindenburg As for your first point, I know little about the science behind it, but I suspect it isn't much worse than the energy required to drill up oil and refine it to be used in cars. I suspect that, like most things, when the determination and mindset are ready, then the advancements are made. As for your second opinion, Car and Driver wrote: The main issue with hydrogen as I see it, is the lack of infrastructure. Charging stations are becoming more and more common, but hydrogen locations are limited to CA and Hawaii. |
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Post by wilkyisdashiznit on Jun 22, 2023 16:29:34 GMT -8
Problems with H tech as I understand it It takes more energy to obtain the H than one gets out of the H. Hindenburg As for your first point, I know little about the science behind it, but I suspect it isn't much worse than the energy required to drill up oil and refine it to be used in cars. I suspect that, like most things, when the determination and mindset are ready, then the advancements are made. As for your second opinion, Car and Driver wrote: The main issue with hydrogen as I see it, is the lack of infrastructure. Charging stations are becoming more and more common, but hydrogen locations are limited to CA and Hawaii. |
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Post by spudbeaver on Jun 22, 2023 20:02:15 GMT -8
Problems with H tech as I understand it It takes more energy to obtain the H than one gets out of the H. Hindenburg As for your first point, I know little about the science behind it, but I suspect it isn't much worse than the energy required to drill up oil and refine it to be used in cars. I suspect that, like most things, when the determination and mindset are ready, then the advancements are made. As for your second opinion, Car and Driver wrote: The main issue with hydrogen as I see it, is the lack of infrastructure. Charging stations are becoming more and more common, but hydrogen locations are limited to CA and Hawaii. ”but I suspect it isn't much worse than the energy required to drill up oil and refine it to be used in cars.” That’s like pissing in the ocean compared to lithium and cobalt mining, but who’s counting? Don’t get me started on the disposal of millions, tens of millions, hundreds of millions of junk ev batteries! |
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I am in sales - it is never good to be called a used car salesman. Lots of hands in the pot - like Warren Buffett and his oil trains 
