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Post by seastape on Jun 10, 2023 7:56:53 GMT -8
I got into a discussion with friends about how they would define certain parts of the country and I thought I would ask (mostly) Northwesterners how they would define the Northwest.
I put my answers in: Oregon, Washington and Idaho. I don't know if I should have included Idaho, but restricting the Northwest to two states seemed a little understated.
I thought about parts of Northern California where a chunk of citizens would identify with Southern Oregon more than the rest of California, especially the people who dream of the Great State of Jefferson, but the idea of lumping in part of California (or, if you will, saddling the rest of the Northwest with even a small portion of California) seems a little absurd.
Anyway...thoughts?
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Post by ag87 on Jun 10, 2023 9:12:22 GMT -8
I think I see "Pacific Northwest" 100 times more than "Northwest." Do you think they are the same? My thought is yes but it's probably unimportant. The only change I'd make from your answer is adding the Columbia River drainage basin.
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Post by Werebeaver on Jun 10, 2023 10:51:27 GMT -8
Anything within a 6 hour drive of Seattle or Portland.
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Post by wilkyisdashiznit on Jun 10, 2023 10:53:08 GMT -8
I got into a discussion with friends about how they would define certain parts of the country and I thought I would ask (mostly) Northwesterners how they would define the Northwest. I put my answers in: Oregon, Washington and Idaho. I don't know if I should have included Idaho, but restricting the Northwest to two states seemed a little understated. I thought about parts of Northern California where a chunk of citizens would identify with Southern Oregon more than the rest of California, especially the people who dream of the Great State of Jefferson, but the idea of lumping in part of California (or, if you will, saddling the rest of the Northwest with even a small portion of California) seems a little absurd. Anyway...thoughts? Anywhere that drains into the Pacific Ocean through the Columbia river. And that includes parts of: Alberta, British Columbia, Idaho, Montana, Nevada, Oregon, Washington, and Wyoming. Unless you start saying that parts of Oregon aren't in the Northwest, you should also include the Klamath River Basin in Northwestern California and the Goose Lake Basin in Northeastern California, as well. Oregon could do a lot of good, if they could wrest the entire Goose Lake Basin away from California, so California would quit stealing all of the water and murdering all of the wildlife and then turn around and lecture everyone else about the environment. |
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Post by TheGlove on Jun 10, 2023 11:22:51 GMT -8
When British Columbians refer to themselves as Northwesterners. I like to correct them.
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Post by ag87 on Jun 10, 2023 17:09:09 GMT -8
I got into a discussion with friends about how they would define certain parts of the country and I thought I would ask (mostly) Northwesterners how they would define the Northwest. I put my answers in: Oregon, Washington and Idaho. I don't know if I should have included Idaho, but restricting the Northwest to two states seemed a little understated. I thought about parts of Northern California where a chunk of citizens would identify with Southern Oregon more than the rest of California, especially the people who dream of the Great State of Jefferson, but the idea of lumping in part of California (or, if you will, saddling the rest of the Northwest with even a small portion of California) seems a little absurd. Anyway...thoughts? Anywhere that drains into the Pacific Ocean through the Columbia river. And that includes parts of: Alberta, British Columbia, Idaho, Montana, Nevada, Oregon, Washington, and Wyoming. Unless you start saying that parts of Oregon aren't in the Northwest, you should also include the Klamath River Basin in Northwestern California and the Goose Lake Basin in Northeastern California, as well. Oregon could do a lot of good, if they could wrest the entire Goose Lake Basin away from California, so California would quit stealing all of the water and murdering all of the wildlife and then turn around and lecture everyone else about the environment. I was in and out of Lakeview a lot from 2003 - 2006. I should know more about Goose Lake than I do. But I don't remember conversations with folks complaining about it. We did take extraordinary caution in protecting the sucker fish in Parsnip Creek which flows to Pelican Lake and Crump Lake. But the Klamath Basin is another story. A friend of mine from high school, an attorney, was on Kitzhaber's staff doing natural resources things. This was the year that a federal court order was requiring Oregon to stop flow into the canal that serves farms southeast of Klamath Falls. The idea was to protect fish runs in the lower Klamath River. The temperature was too high for the salmon. But the problem was the Trinity River water was being diverted to the Sacramento basin to be moved through the delta and used for central California agriculture. The Trinity water was cooler than the Klamath water. The California farm lobby had more power than Oregon and so Oregon's water was indirectly diverted to big corporate farms in central Cali. My friend had full-time state police protection for a while. |
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Post by EmeraldEmpire on Jun 10, 2023 18:44:33 GMT -8
Anywhere that drains into the Pacific Ocean through the Columbia river. And that includes parts of: Alberta, British Columbia, Idaho, Montana, Nevada, Oregon, Washington, and Wyoming. Unless you start saying that parts of Oregon aren't in the Northwest, you should also include the Klamath River Basin in Northwestern California and the Goose Lake Basin in Northeastern California, as well. Oregon could do a lot of good, if they could wrest the entire Goose Lake Basin away from California, so California would quit stealing all of the water and murdering all of the wildlife and then turn around and lecture everyone else about the environment. I was in and out of Lakeview a lot from 2003 - 2006. I should know more about Goose Lake than I do. But I don't remember conversations with folks complaining about it. We did take extraordinary caution in protecting the sucker fish in Parsnip Creek which flows to Pelican Lake and Crump Lake. But the Klamath Basin is another story. A friend of mine from high school, an attorney, was on Kitzhaber's staff doing natural resources things. This was the year that a federal court order was requiring Oregon to stop flow into the canal that serves farms southeast of Klamath Falls. The idea was to protect fish runs in the lower Klamath River. The temperature was too high for the salmon. But the problem was the Trinity River water was being diverted to the Sacramento basin to be moved through the delta and used for central California agriculture. The Trinity water was cooler than the Klamath water. The California farm lobby had more power than Oregon and so Oregon's water was indirectly diverted to big corporate farms in central Cali. My friend had full-time state police protection for a while. Speaking of Lakeview and water it reminded me of this article I read about how bad the drinking water is for the citizens of that town: www.opb.org/article/2023/04/27/lakeview-oregon-tainted-drinking-water-metals-public-health/ |
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Post by irimi on Jun 10, 2023 18:50:27 GMT -8
My class on the Geography of the Pacific Northwest at OSU did not include any information about Northern California. Just Oregon, Washington, and Idaho, but I really only paid attention to the Oregon bits which made up probably 75% of the class.
Living on the Palouse taught me about the Inland Northwest, which was (I think) eastern WA and Idaho. Sometimes, though, I definitely think Montana is part of the PNW.
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Post by ag87 on Jun 10, 2023 19:11:45 GMT -8
My class on the Geography of the Pacific Northwest at OSU did not include any information about Northern California. Just Oregon, Washington, and Idaho, but I really only paid attention to the Oregon bits which made up probably 75% of the class. Living on the Palouse taught me about the Inland Northwest, which was (I think) eastern WA and Idaho. Sometimes, though, I definitely think Montana is part of the PNW. Me too regarding western Montana. Clark Fork and Flathead Rivers, Hungry Horse Reservoir, Kalispell, Missoula - all are part of the PNW. |
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