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Post by irimi on Feb 21, 2020 14:51:28 GMT -8
A win like that builds swagger and confidence. We need a win like that.
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Post by irimi on Feb 21, 2020 14:53:02 GMT -8
9th and prayer Casey - 2nd playing really deep on grounder - 1 out Armstrong grounds to short - 2 out Strikeout This is awful and I am out! Can't remember the last time we were sub-500 Not exactly awful. Gut wrenching, yes. But we had a tough game in our pocket. They stole it. It sucks, but until the 8th, we were in control.
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Post by mbabeav on Feb 21, 2020 15:04:29 GMT -8
9th and prayer Casey - 2nd playing really deep on grounder - 1 out Armstrong grounds to short - 2 out Strikeout This is awful and I am out! Can't remember the last time we were sub-500 Not exactly awful. Gut wrenching, yes. But we had a tough game in our pocket. They stole it. It sucks, but until the 8th, we were in control. I know, there have been much worse losses - like the team, us fans have to get up after taking one to the jaw and come out swinging (and making consistent contact) next game.
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Post by qbeaver on Feb 21, 2020 15:07:45 GMT -8
Tough road trip. This team is a work in progress. I'm certainly rooting for Mitch and staff. So many things to figure out.
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Post by beavermd on Feb 21, 2020 15:29:19 GMT -8
Keep going to the pen and you will find someone they will hit. Get used to the pro ball game guys. Lol
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Post by baseba1111 on Feb 21, 2020 15:40:11 GMT -8
Keep going to the pen and you will find someone they will hit. Get used to the pro ball game guys. Lol In terms of fan 20/20 hindsight and not really blaming as I've said these coaches have as much or more to learn than some of the players. But... If Mully was in today's game plan, then it seems the perfect stage was set to use an experienced softer tossing lefty? The frosh need experience, but it wasn't like they weren't going to see mound time the next two games. Hard throwing left, then right... to soft tosser with control and plenty of big game experience. Anyway... getting that win was big in my mind. MissSt was trying to piece a Friday night staff together. But, 2 runs never felt good.
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Post by abureid on Feb 21, 2020 19:39:24 GMT -8
98 mph just means a good hitter will hit the ball that much harder. Still have to locate, and that is a tough lesson to learn. Better to learn early in the season than later.
MC is probably busy taking note of the differences between NCAA and MiLB ball. He will learn, we will get better and win more close games than we lose.
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Post by badwack on Feb 22, 2020 5:54:37 GMT -8
I thought after watching Kevin A. making a mess out of teams at the CWS these big time programs were all about hitting and hitting the FB. This game goes in the pitching staff failure column. Young and learning.
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Post by beavadelic on Feb 22, 2020 7:23:59 GMT -8
I can’t wait for football. OK, just kidding. While I AM excited for football and like where we’re heading, in no way am I bailing on baseball. Second week of the season with a new coach and a bunch of new faces. Not even close to true frustration.
However, I am struck by how my mantra has been “thank goodness we have women’s hoops and baseball to look forward to!” The former has been a big disappointment with all of the factors - both in and out of our control - that have resulted in a much less reliable team than I expected. The latter because - much like women’s hoops - we seem to struggle finishing things so far in this young season.
After watching Jimmy and his successors derail men’s hoops and Anderpants trash football, I vowed to myself not to get too worked or extreme about teams being good, but not great like I expect them to be. Baseball looks like it might present me with an excellent opportunity to see how well I follow through on my promises.
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Post by abureid on Feb 22, 2020 8:10:14 GMT -8
In Baseball, all you can really expect is good. Great teams are good ones that get all the bounces their way. (See 07 BEAVS) Even in MLB, the most talented teams don’t always win.
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Post by beavadelic on Feb 22, 2020 9:10:25 GMT -8
In Baseball, all you can really expect is good. Great teams are good ones that get all the bounces their way. (See 07 BEAVS) Even in MLB, the most talented teams don’t always win. It does help to have some great players. Even then, if you don’t have some depth in terms of really good ones, you will be exposed (like last year with a guy on our roster who clearly was the best player in college baseball). The ‘07 club was probably not as “great” as the ‘05 roster was, but they had a bunch of really good players who all seemed to get it figured out at the perfect time (and thank you, Pat Murphy, for having the vision and stones -unlike Meggs a few years ago - to advocate for us). I feel that McMahan, McGeery, Ober, Casey and Claunch have shown the ability to be significant forces at this level, but outside of Ober, they were wildly inconsistent in Surprise. Jake was really tough for the most part there, and also has potential to be a dangerous hitter. Micah McDowell is young, but has a lot talent and could be really good. None of those players have the look of a guy that opponents dread facing every time that they step to the plate, but all of them could be very formidable. Honestly, as inconsistent as Andy has been at the plate, he’s a grinder and had several good at-bats last weekend. Pitching is full of question marks but we have several guys who could be difference-makers. It’s a question of whether they’ll consistently step up. If these guys all figure it out and are as good as they could be at the same time, this team can be dangerous. Probably the biggest wild card is the change in the dugout. Casey was a seasoned entity and had seen it all. His experience and skill gave us an advantage in the bench virtually every time out. Mitch has the knowledge and great pedigree, but he is a rookie at this level, and he will keep learning and getting stronger both in and out of games. We would love to see that happen fast, but I feel good about him and know that it can take time.
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Post by grackle on Feb 22, 2020 9:52:17 GMT -8
Ill surely catch hell for saying this, but I've never stopped believing that Yeskie, not Canham, would easily have been the best, most logical hire.
That was an eminently winnable game yesterday if the Beavs had had a college-ball experienced coaching staff in the dugout. And had more experienced relievers been used in that late-game situation.
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Post by baseba1111 on Feb 22, 2020 10:04:11 GMT -8
Ill surely catch hell for saying this, but I've never stopped believing that Yeskie, not Canham, would easily have been the best, most logical hire. That was an eminently winnable game yesterday if the Beavs had had a college-ball experienced coaching staff in the dugout. And had more experienced relievers been used in that late-game situation. Just say you have bad hands and drop it... Like many comparison/extrapolation mode opinions here, it can never be proven. But, if you think it I'm betting others do to. The pitching decisions made are easily questioned when a game ends such as it did!
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Post by grackle on Feb 22, 2020 10:35:05 GMT -8
Ill surely catch hell for saying this, but I've never stopped believing that Yeskie, not Canham, would easily have been the best, most logical hire. That was an eminently winnable game yesterday if the Beavs had had a college-ball experienced coaching staff in the dugout. And had more experienced relievers been used in that late-game situation. Just say you have bad hands and drop it... Like many comparison/extrapolation mode opinions here, it can never be proven. But, if you think it I'm betting others do to. The pitching decisions made are easily questioned when a game ends such as it did! You're right, no doubt. I do tend to chew on things w-a-a-ay too long (I'm still not close to being over FB's loss to WSU or UO last season). But DAM-it, why hire what was clearly the 2nd or 3rd most qualified baseball coach candidate available? Allright, alright, I will shut up. But I'm still chewing.
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Post by Ruh Roh Beav on Feb 22, 2020 10:53:05 GMT -8
In terms of fan 20/20 hindsight and not really blaming as I've said these coaches have as much or more to learn than some of the players. But... If Mully was in today's game plan, then it seems the perfect stage was set to use an experienced softer tossing lefty? The frosh need experience, but it wasn't like they weren't going to see mound time the next two games. Hard throwing left, then right... to soft tosser with control and plenty of big game experience. Anyway... getting that win was big in my mind. MissSt was trying to piece a Friday night staff together. But, 2 runs never felt good. Well I gotta admit your take using Mully late in this game was probably the best choice for Canham. I’m hoping Mitch will realize the strength of Mully in this type of game in the future
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