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Post by beavadelic on Feb 17, 2020 15:15:03 GMT -8
He’s trying desperately to make an impression. What I can’t understand is Claunch the last 2 games. The last feeble strikeout with 1 down and Casey at third was tough. That run was big. He rarely has even hit the ball, and not out of the infield. After talking away a potential big inning, BYU has scored 2 to tie it,
It was mentioned earlier that we lack a star hitter, and I’m afraid that may be the case. After doubles in 4 straight at-bats, McGarry has dribbled two in a row to the pitcher with runners on and effectively killed rallies. Ober has been fairly steady and Jake has been on fire.
After this first weekend, it appears that if we don’t consistently throw strikes this could be a long season.
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Post by mbabeav on Feb 17, 2020 15:26:29 GMT -8
Too soon to say, we had several people come out of Arizona last season hitting gangbusters, but the only one who maintained it was Adley. Hitting is a season long effort, four games is a mini slump.
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Post by dryside on Feb 17, 2020 15:32:57 GMT -8
Too many K's for the whole team and poor execution with runners on base.Surprised we didn't bunt with Jones on first and no outs..
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Post by beavadelic on Feb 17, 2020 15:55:18 GMT -8
We are a hot mess right now. No clutch hitting, erratic pitching. Foolish base running. I do believe that Frisch should have had a strikeout several pitches before he hit the guy to bring in the go-ahead run. To say that the plate ump has a tight strike zone - maybe revolving would be a better way to describe it - is being kind, but I felt that both Gonzaga and BYU’s hitters were far more disciplined at the plate. Those teams were actually aggressive and ready, but they didn’t chase garbage. We have looked really uneasy in the box since about the 3rd inning of Friday’s game against New Mexico.
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Post by irimi on Feb 17, 2020 16:27:25 GMT -8
Wow. The pronouncements are coming hot and heavy already. Did you guys think it would all be in place at the beginning of the year?
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Post by mbabeav on Feb 17, 2020 16:35:34 GMT -8
Wow. The pronouncements are coming hot and heavy already. Did you guys think it would all be in place at the beginning of the year? Agreed - more new people playing, more new people pitching - it might not turn out to be the right combination on any given day, but we will round into a standard line up and find out who can fit into the bullpen rotation. But three strikeouts to end the game is not a feel good moment.
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Post by baseba1111 on Feb 17, 2020 16:41:25 GMT -8
Wow. The pronouncements are coming hot and heavy already. Did you guys think it would all be in place at the beginning of the year? Agreed - more new people playing, more new people pitching - it might not turn out to be the right combination on any given day, but we will round into a standard line up and find out who can fit into the bullpen rotation. I think some here thought that Surprise, vs this competition would be 3-1 at worst. And, like WBB, there is a bit of OSU only reloads. This is a overall weak hitting team that returned, add newcomers, it will take time... but, the next two trips are a bit tougher!! Pitching... young arms seemed solid. Some up and downs. But when is the last time OSU had (4) pitchers that will have to contribute with ERAs over 15 coming out of Surprise? I'm not going back to look, but I'd guess, never. For some they need to realize... this team will make the top 64, but they are not hosting. It'll be whether they are a 2 or 3 seed, and where they are sent. Lots of games to play... lots of growth that can happen. But, no two ways about it this was a disappointing trip.
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Post by abureid on Feb 17, 2020 16:49:19 GMT -8
It will be interesting to see what Mitch does with the lineup next week. Jones and Casey have to produce or else it will be a youth movement in the OF.
AB competiveness, fouling off nasty pitches, not missing mistakes will need to improve. And it should as the season progresses. The good news is that Mitch has choices. He has more than 8 position players available.
Starkville will be a tough place to play. One of the few places we will go where BeaverNation does not outnumber the home team.
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Post by dryside on Feb 17, 2020 16:55:43 GMT -8
We "whiffed " on the game today. Too many times we didn't even put the ball in play all weekend.Mitch has work to do !
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Post by beavadelic on Feb 17, 2020 17:52:10 GMT -8
Wow. The pronouncements are coming hot and heavy already. Did you guys think it would all be in place at the beginning of the year? It seems like we have generally done a lot better down here to get thing going. The loss today involved giving up 3 runs over 2 innings with only one hit by BYU. You are right that it’s early, and I agree that we need to be patient given some new kids, but we did not look confident after the first inning of game 1, striking out a boatload of times (Claunch the last 5 times in a row). We scored 14 runs over the last 35 innings of play. You can bet that the scouting report on us will be to mix an occasional fastball with a bunch of curves and 59 foot junk pitches in the low 70’s. We have a lot of work to do, and oh yeah. Next up: A 3 game series at Mississippi St. There will be no mercy back there, and they could most definitely sweep us and crush us doing it. If that happens, it can’t help the confidence of young guys who are trying to make an impression, or guys like Preston Jones, a senior who has lost his job to a talented freshman, but one who also is pressing a little.
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Post by badwack on Feb 17, 2020 18:10:55 GMT -8
On the bright side it looks like we really do have some fine young Arms. That will take time. I doubt we have a real Fri Night Guy yet. Next weekend could be ugly if they throw any breaking balls. We better get back to playing small ball!
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Post by messi on Feb 17, 2020 18:34:25 GMT -8
Agreed - more new people playing, more new people pitching - it might not turn out to be the right combination on any given day, but we will round into a standard line up and find out who can fit into the bullpen rotation. I think some here thought that Surprise, vs this competition would be 3-1 at worst. And, like WBB, there is a bit of OSU only reloads. This is a overall weak hitting team that returned, add newcomers, it will take time... but, the next two trips are a bit tougher!! Pitching... young arms seemed solid. Some up and downs. But when is the last time OSU had (4) pitchers that will have to contribute with ERAs over 15 coming out of Surprise? I'm not going back to look, but I'd guess, never. For some they need to realize... this team will make the top 64, but they are not hosting. It'll be whether they are a 2 or 3 seed, and where they are sent. Lots of games to play... lots of growth that can happen. But, no two ways about it this was a disappointing trip. Hopefully the Beavers are better than a bubble team by Memorial Day. The rest of the conference hasn’t done a great job this first weekend thus far.
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Post by irimi on Feb 17, 2020 21:47:56 GMT -8
Wow. The pronouncements are coming hot and heavy already. Did you guys think it would all be in place at the beginning of the year? It seems like we have generally done a lot better down here to get thing going. The loss today involved giving up 3 runs over 2 innings with only one hit by BYU. You are right that it’s early, and I agree that we need to be patient given some new kids, but we did not look confident after the first inning of game 1, striking out a boatload of times (Claunch the last 5 times in a row). We scored 14 runs over the last 35 innings of play. You can bet that the scouting report on us will be to mix an occasional fastball with a bunch of curves and 59 foot junk pitches in the low 70’s. We have a lot of work to do, and oh yeah. Next up: A 3 game series at Mississippi St. There will be no mercy back there, and they could most definitely sweep us and crush us doing it. If that happens, it can’t help the confidence of young guys who are trying to make an impression, or guys like Preston Jones, a senior who has lost his job to a talented freshman, but one who also is pressing a little. Im sorta glad for the upcoming series against MSU. I want to see how the high level of competition will affect the Beavs. Takes a lot of heat and pounding to forge a sword.
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Post by wilkyisdashiznit on Feb 17, 2020 23:09:51 GMT -8
Agreed - more new people playing, more new people pitching - it might not turn out to be the right combination on any given day, but we will round into a standard line up and find out who can fit into the bullpen rotation. I think some here thought that Surprise, vs this competition would be 3-1 at worst. And, like WBB, there is a bit of OSU only reloads. This is a overall weak hitting team that returned, add newcomers, it will take time... but, the next two trips are a bit tougher!! Pitching... young arms seemed solid. Some up and downs. But when is the last time OSU had (4) pitchers that will have to contribute with ERAs over 15 coming out of Surprise? I'm not going back to look, but I'd guess, never.For some they need to realize... this team will make the top 64, but they are not hosting. It'll be whether they are a 2 or 3 seed, and where they are sent. Lots of games to play... lots of growth that can happen. But, no two ways about it this was a disappointing trip. Coming out of Surprise in 2016: Jordan Britton 16.20 ERA John Pomeroy 18.00 ERA Jake Thompson 19.29 ERA Eric Parnow 54.00 ERA
Britton, Pomeroy, and Thompson all rebounded. Parnow never pitched at Oregon State again.
Oregon State started 2016 3-1 but gave up eight more runs in Surprise than in 2020.
The first four games are the worst four first weekend games since 2015, when the team went 2-2 but was outscored by four runs. This team looks like an offensive juggernaut to that team, and that team should have hosted a regional.
I don't think that this team has shown anything that should make you want to jump on the bandwagon yet, but it is too early to warrant jumping off IMO.
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