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Post by eugenedave on Dec 27, 2019 8:30:10 GMT -8
Supposedly the Angels are going to go after Matt. They need to shore up their pitching, with someone that doesn't cost as much as Strasburg.
Trade rumors flew last summer, nothing came of it. I wonder how serious to take this one.
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Post by wilkyisdashiznit on Dec 27, 2019 14:38:55 GMT -8
Supposedly the Angels are going to go after Matt. They need to shore up their pitching, with someone that doesn't cost as much as Strasburg. Trade rumors flew last summer, nothing came of it. I wonder how serious to take this one. I don't know how seriously to take it either. Teams often want a lot for their ace, and the Tigers want a lot for Boyd, their projected ace. Boyd has a great thing in Detroit. I am not sure that he would be as good of a fit in Anaheim. He seems to have progressed a lot between 2018 and 2019. I cannot tell whether that is because of or in spite of the Detroit coaches. However, regardless, I am not sold on the Angels' Callaway as a pitching coach. The reason that Boyd did not go at the trade deadline last season was because the Tigers wanted a lot for him. The Tigers still want a lot for Boyd. He is literally the best starter that they have. In the end, it looks like the only way that the Halos get Boyd is by offering a lot to get him. We'll see......
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Post by ricke71 on Dec 27, 2019 18:58:00 GMT -8
Supposedly the Angels are going to go after Matt. They need to shore up their pitching, with someone that doesn't cost as much as Strasburg. Trade rumors flew last summer, nothing came of it. I wonder how serious to take this one. I don't know how seriously to take it either. Teams often want a lot for their ace, and the Tigers want a lot for Boyd, their projected ace. Boyd has a great thing in Detroit. I am not sure that he would be as good of a fit in Anaheim. He seems to have progressed a lot between 2018 and 2019. I cannot tell whether that is because of or in spite of the Detroit coaches. However, regardless, I am not sold on the Angels' Callaway as a pitching coach. The reason that Boyd did not go at the trade deadline last season was because the Tigers wanted a lot for him. The Tigers still want a lot for Boyd. He is literally the best starter that they have. In the end, it looks like the only way that the Halos get Boyd is by offering a lot to get him. We'll see...... This Tiger thing for Boyd is off the charts weird. Yes, he is their best starter. But, looking at their depth chart (on which he is indeed listed as the #1 starter), the combined W-L record of their #2 and #3 starters in 2019 is 6-30. I personally hope that Matt finds a way to be a #1 (or even #2 or #3 starter) on some team that has a less pathetic staff than the Tigers.
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Post by wilkyisdashiznit on Dec 27, 2019 21:14:33 GMT -8
I don't know how seriously to take it either. Teams often want a lot for their ace, and the Tigers want a lot for Boyd, their projected ace. Boyd has a great thing in Detroit. I am not sure that he would be as good of a fit in Anaheim. He seems to have progressed a lot between 2018 and 2019. I cannot tell whether that is because of or in spite of the Detroit coaches. However, regardless, I am not sold on the Angels' Callaway as a pitching coach. The reason that Boyd did not go at the trade deadline last season was because the Tigers wanted a lot for him. The Tigers still want a lot for Boyd. He is literally the best starter that they have. In the end, it looks like the only way that the Halos get Boyd is by offering a lot to get him. We'll see...... This Tiger thing for Boyd is off the charts weird. Yes, he is their best starter. But. looking at their depth chart (on which he is indeed listed as the #1 starter), the combined W-L record of their #2 and #3 starters in 2019 is 6-30. I personally hope that Matt finds a way to be a #1 (or even #2 or #3 starter) on some team that has a less pathetic staff than the Tigers. Strikeouts / 9 Innings: 1. Gerrit Cole 13.82 2. Max Scherzer 12.69 3. Robbie Ray 12.13 4. Justin Verlander 12.11 5. Lucas Giolito 11.62 6. Matthew Boyd 11.56
Hopefully, no matter where he goes, Boyd is the ace. His strikeout numbers are off-the-charts. If he can cut down on home runs, he could have a great season no matter where he winds up. He should have been the Tigers' All-Star last year. He should be the Tigers' All-Star this year.
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Post by mbabeav on Dec 28, 2019 11:13:35 GMT -8
This Tiger thing for Boyd is off the charts weird. Yes, he is their best starter. But. looking at their depth chart (on which he is indeed listed as the #1 starter), the combined W-L record of their #2 and #3 starters in 2019 is 6-30. I personally hope that Matt finds a way to be a #1 (or even #2 or #3 starter) on some team that has a less pathetic staff than the Tigers. Strikeouts / 9 Innings: 1. Gerrit Cole 13.82 2. Max Scherzer 12.69 3. Robbie Ray 12.13 4. Justin Verlander 12.11 5. Lucas Giolito 11.62 6. Matthew Boyd 11.56
Hopefully, no matter where he goes, Boyd is the ace. His strikeout numbers are off-the-charts. If he can cut down on home runs, he could have a great season no matter where he winds up. He should have been the Tigers' All-Star last year. He should be the Tigers' All-Star this year.
If he could get to a team that could score runs for him......
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Post by wilkyisdashiznit on Dec 28, 2019 13:59:16 GMT -8
Strikeouts / 9 Innings: 1. Gerrit Cole 13.82 2. Max Scherzer 12.69 3. Robbie Ray 12.13 4. Justin Verlander 12.11 5. Lucas Giolito 11.62 6. Matthew Boyd 11.56
Hopefully, no matter where he goes, Boyd is the ace. His strikeout numbers are off-the-charts. If he can cut down on home runs, he could have a great season no matter where he winds up. He should have been the Tigers' All-Star last year. He should be the Tigers' All-Star this year.
If he could get to a team that could score runs for him...... Well, yes, it would be nice, if Boyd could go to a team that did not have the worst offense in the majors........
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Post by eugenedave on Jan 11, 2020 19:35:25 GMT -8
Yesterday Matt Boyd settled with the Tigers on a $5.3 million salary for the 2020 season. Not too shabby. Still has a couple more years before he can start making some real money though lol. The deal was made three hours after the deadline to submit salary arbitration figures. Matt was the last of four Tigers to sign. And he got the highest offer of those four. Righty Michael Fulmer only got $2.8 million. Poor devil. Matt has had more success than any ex- Beaver pitcher that I am aware of. Not bad for a 6th round draft pick.
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Post by sagebrush on Jan 12, 2020 5:37:59 GMT -8
Sorry, but a pitcher with an ERA in the high fours, a WHIP of 1.25, goes less than six innings a start, is not an ace.
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Post by Henry Skrimshander on Jan 12, 2020 8:24:32 GMT -8
Sorry, but a pitcher with an ERA in the high fours, a WHIP of 1.25, goes less than six innings a start, is not an ace. He's the best pitcher on their staff. So he's the ace of their staff.
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Post by ricke71 on Jan 12, 2020 9:09:41 GMT -8
Sorry, but a pitcher with an ERA in the high fours, a WHIP of 1.25, goes less than six innings a start, is not an ace. He's the best pitcher on their staff. So he's the ace of their staff. Best Starter they have. #1 on Depth Chart. Nowhere near highest paid starter though. #4 starter (2019: 1-13 w near 7 era Jordan Zimmerman easily claims that distinction). Zimmerman will be paid 27 mill for the 2020 season. What a mess!
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Post by wilkyisdashiznit on Jan 12, 2020 14:46:47 GMT -8
Yesterday Matt Boyd settled with the Tigers on a $5.3 million salary for the 2020 season. Not too shabby. Still has a couple more years before he can start making some real money though lol. The deal was made three hours after the deadline to submit salary arbitration figures. Matt was the last of four Tigers to sign. And he got the highest offer of those four. Righty Michael Fulmer only got $2.8 million. Poor devil. Matt has had more success than any ex- Beaver pitcher that I am aware of. Not bad for a 6th round draft pick. In my estimation, Boyd has had the most success of any ex-Beaver pitcher since Ken Forsch dislocated his shoulder in '84. Forsch retired in 1986, finishing with two All-Star selections, a CG NLCS pitching performance, and a no-hitter. If Boyd can keep it up for another year or two, I think that we can have a worthwhile discussion about whether Boyd or Forsch was a better pitcher in The Bigs. Also, for good measure, Forsch was a 9th Round selection out of Junior College and an 18th Round selection (by the Astros) out of Oregon State.
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