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Post by ag87 on May 27, 2018 7:13:29 GMT -8
My son said he drove from Norfolk to Durham to watch yesterday's games in the ACC tournament. Street worked behind the plate last night and per my son, got a large volume of critique on his strike zone last year and questions on under-the-table pay by LSU.
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Post by beavermd on May 27, 2018 7:39:45 GMT -8
My son said he drove from Norfolk to Durham to watch yesterday's games in the ACC tournament. Street worked behind the plate last night and per my son, got a large volume of critique on his strike zone last year and questions on under-the-table pay by LSU. I saw your son’s posts on twitter. He’s a hero.
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Post by ag87 on May 27, 2018 20:42:46 GMT -8
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Post by osuft3 on May 27, 2018 21:18:32 GMT -8
Bush league. The umpiring was atrocious in that game, but he called it that way for both teams. They adjusted to his strike zone, we didn't. Life and or ball games are not always fair. To win, you have to take what is there and make it happen. Fire away.
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Post by kersting13 on May 27, 2018 22:58:35 GMT -8
Bush league. The umpiring was atrocious in that game, but he called it that way for both teams. They adjusted to his strike zone, we didn't. Life and or ball games are not always fair. To win, you have to take what is there and make it happen. Fire away. He called a LOT of outside pitches as strikes, but I wouldn't exactly say he was totally consistent. Even if he had been 100% consistent, it's still quite an adjustment to make to expand your strike zone 3-6" further outside than you've experienced all year long. The first time through the order EVERY left-handed OSU batter struck out looking on a pitch outside the zone. After that, they DID adjust, but the damage had already been done by that point. SaveSave
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Post by sagebrush on May 28, 2018 5:15:17 GMT -8
That was maybe, just maybe, an 18-0 going into the 5th inning HS freshman strike zone (going home, end the misery time). Pathetic. I hear all the adjusting stuff, but your eye.muscle memory and years of practice just will not let you swing at that.
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Post by Henry Skrimshander on May 28, 2018 9:01:40 GMT -8
Bush league. The umpiring was atrocious in that game, but he called it that way for both teams. They adjusted to his strike zone, we didn't. Life and or ball games are not always fair. To win, you have to take what is there and make it happen. Fire away. So, how many LSU batters were called out on strikes in the opposite batter's box? Yeah, thought so.
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Post by beavergeuse on May 28, 2018 9:06:49 GMT -8
The difference between OSU and LSU in that season was that OSU was great at reading the pitch and as a result could extend the pitch count and get a lot of walks. LSU was a power hitting team and OSU was finesse. Greg Street single handily took away OSU's strength as the batter had no idea what would be a ball or strike as the zone expanded and contracted on a whim.
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Post by osuft3 on May 28, 2018 9:40:33 GMT -8
Bush league. The umpiring was atrocious in that game, but he called it that way for both teams. They adjusted to his strike zone, we didn't. Life and or ball games are not always fair. To win, you have to take what is there and make it happen. Fire away. So, how many LSU batters were called out on strikes in the opposite batter's box? Yeah, thought so. I don't recall, but some were. I'm not defending Street--his performance was terrible. The reason we had more calls against was because we let it get that far. If the ump is calling strike three, don't let it get that far. Don't take pitches you can hit. For the pitchers, if the ump is calling that a strike, throw it there.
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Post by bucktoothvarmit on May 28, 2018 10:00:19 GMT -8
So, how many LSU batters were called out on strikes in the opposite batter's box? Yeah, thought so. I don't recall, but some were. I'm not defending Street--his performance was terrible. The reason we had more calls against was because we let it get that far. If the ump is calling strike three, don't let it get that far. Don't take pitches you can hit. For the pitchers, if the ump is calling that a strike, throw it there. Soooooo, you flush out everything that made you so successful all season long after two innings of learning that the home plate ump is blind as a bat and has an agenda. Gotcha......
IIRC the LSU pitcher painted the corners of the opposite batters box for strikes and OSU's pitcher painted the corners of the plate for balls.
Street had an agenda and any derision thrown his way is well deserved. He should be kept as far away from Omaha as PK park!
Go Beavs!!
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Post by hawkeye2000 on May 28, 2018 10:02:08 GMT -8
All I have to say is ---- They better not send this guy with LSU out to Corvallis.
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Post by Henry Skrimshander on May 28, 2018 10:08:22 GMT -8
Of course, one could make the assumption that by the time you reach the semifinals of the College World Series, the umpires would 1, be able to discern a fair ball from a foul ball, especially when the baseball hits on the inside half of the foul line; 2, realize that in order for a pitch to be called a strike, the baseball must pass over some part of the plate, or 3, have six umpires assigned to all CWS games.
Yeah, I guess I'm just a dreamer.
An umpire who calls strikes on pitches well out of the strike zone is simply incompetent, whether he's consistent or not, especially if he's doing it frequently.
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Post by baseba1111 on May 28, 2018 10:49:36 GMT -8
Of course, one could make the assumption that by the time you reach the semifinals of the College World Series, the umpires would 1, be able to discern a fair ball from a foul ball, especially when the baseball hits on the inside half of the foul line; 2, realize that in order for a pitch to be called a strike, the baseball must pass over some part of the plate, or 3, have six umpires assigned to all CWS games. Yeah, I guess I'm just a dreamer. An umpire who calls strikes on pitches well out of the strike zone is simply incompetent, whether he's consistent or not, especially if he's doing it frequently. Not directed at you, but since this is the last post to mention it... I realize this is an OSU board, but every failure on an OSU squad is not the fault of an outside force. There was plenty of incompetence to go around... coaching decisions/lack thereof, lack of adjustments at the plate, poor execution, poor pitch calls/location, poor umpiring. One team had less and won. The whining and bitching about the past gets old. Actually makes this board seem like a pathetic uck fan board at times. Focus on this season... this regional. You have to win 3... most here seem to think Bryce is a sure W and are only concerned about game 3. Ya got to win game 1. The perfect scenario is for the bats to actually show up for a huge lead. Luke gets 5 IP on low pitch count... BP gets 2-4 guys "feet wet" in regional play. Then have Bruce locate and go 7+... allowing some late inning relief, hopefully not under a lot of stress. Game 3 have the ability to use Luke in relief... But, of course that is if you care about the here and now and not the nonsense that has long since passed.
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Post by sagebrush on May 28, 2018 13:17:27 GMT -8
Tell you what. Crowd the plate, lean over the plate to hit that 6 inch outside strike and the next pitch is a heater underneath the hands. See ya.
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Post by Henry Skrimshander on May 28, 2018 13:52:45 GMT -8
Of course, one could make the assumption that by the time you reach the semifinals of the College World Series, the umpires would 1, be able to discern a fair ball from a foul ball, especially when the baseball hits on the inside half of the foul line; 2, realize that in order for a pitch to be called a strike, the baseball must pass over some part of the plate, or 3, have six umpires assigned to all CWS games. Yeah, I guess I'm just a dreamer. An umpire who calls strikes on pitches well out of the strike zone is simply incompetent, whether he's consistent or not, especially if he's doing it frequently. Not directed at you, but since this is the last post to mention it... I realize this is an OSU board, but every failure on an OSU squad is not the fault of an outside force. That is absolutely true, as a rule. In this particular instance, the umpiring and a direct and inordinate impact on the game, and complaining is justified. Kwan would have been on third base following a game-tying, two-run triple, with our best hitters coming up and LSU's starter on the ropes, had the umpire now blown what most umpires who reach that status would acknowledge was a simple call. The ball hit clearly on the foul line, even on the inside half of the foul line. One more hit or a SF and their starter trails 3-2 and could very well be out of the game. The guy who started on Saturday would have been burned on Friday, leaving no one left for Saturday. Street's strike zone was terrible, but the missed call on Friday was the biggest play (for OSU) of the entire CWS.
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