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Post by wilkyisdashiznit on May 6, 2018 20:43:59 GMT -8
Stanford 17-4-0 37-6-0 @oregon State, Washington State, @washington Oregon State 14-6-1 35-7-1 Stanford, @usc, UCLA UCLA 14-7-0 30-13-0 @washington, Oregon, @oregon State Washington 13-8-0 23-20-0 UCLA, @utah, Stanford Arizona 10-11-0 28-17-0 @california, Arizona State, @oregon
The top four teams each play two of the other three top four teams over the last three weekends. The Beavers and Cardinal control their own destiny. The Bruins and Huskies need help. The Bruins have the tiebreaker over the Cardinal. The Bruins need the Cardinal to drop at least three games over their last three series to have a shot. The Huskies need the Cardinal to drop a game and the Beavers to drop two games over their last three series to have a shot.
Arizona has played each of the top four teams in the conference owns the tiebreaker with both Oregon State and UCLA. With some help, the Wildcats can still win the Pac-12.
Utah and Washington State have each now been officially eliminated from postseason contention. Arizona State probably would not earn a postseason berth even if they won out. Although they have a much better shot than the Devils, California, Oregon, and USC all probably cannot improve their resume enough to merit an at large berth. The Ducks probably have the best shot of the three, and it still looks very grim, even if Oregon won out.
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Post by tamatrix on May 6, 2018 20:57:26 GMT -8
Just for fun, here are my predictions; hope I'm off by one in the right direction on furd/WSU, furd/UW and Beavs/USC and that would be great
Stanford 23-7-0 @oregon State (1-2), Washington State (3-0), @washington (2-1) Oregon State 20-9-1 Stanford (2-1), @usc (2-1), UCLA (2-1) UCLA 19-11-0 @washington (2-1), Oregon (2-1), @oregon State (1-2) Washington 18-12-0 UCLA (1-2), @utah (3-0), Stanford (1-2) Arizona 15-15-0 @california (1-2), Arizona State (2-1), @oregon (2-1)
To further the prediction, I predict Beavs go 3-0 in remaining OOC games (although I hate those 2 USD games right after Stanford) and 44-10-1 is enough to get a National Seed.
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Post by mbabeav on May 7, 2018 10:07:56 GMT -8
beat the yucks and take at least two of three from furd, and our RPI goes up to 5 or so - I am not sure we can catch them unless we sweep them this weekend - we are 2 and (three-quarters? ) games behind them, and we would need serious help from some not so great teams if we can't sweep them. Still a top 8 seed and a second in Pac-12 will put us in good shape going into the playoffs.
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Post by beavs6 on May 7, 2018 10:45:09 GMT -8
"Still a top 8 seed and a second in Pac-12 will put us in good shape going into the playoffs." I would take this right now...
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Post by Henry Skrimshander on May 7, 2018 12:21:16 GMT -8
Arizona has virtually no chance. None.
It trails Stanford by seven games with nine to play. The only way it can win is if goes 9-0 while Stanford goes 2-7. And for Stanford to go 2-7, then Washington or OSU will have won two or three of those games, keeping them ahead of Arizona.
The teams presently at least three games ahead of them play each other. So even if someone ahead of them loses, someone ahead of them wins and they can't make up any ground.
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Post by wilkyisdashiznit on May 7, 2018 13:35:51 GMT -8
Arizona has virtually no chance. None. It trails Stanford by seven games with nine to play. The only way it can win is if goes 9-0 while Stanford goes 2-7. And for Stanford to go 2-7, then Washington or OSU will have won two or three of those games, keeping them ahead of Arizona. The teams presently at least three games ahead of them play each other. So even if someone ahead of them loses, someone ahead of them wins and they can't make up any ground. Virtually no chance, but not no chance. Best case scenario for Arizona this weekend: Oregon State sweeps Stanford. Washington takes two-of-three from UCLA. Arizona sweeps California. Standings: Oregon State 17-6-1 Stanford 17-7-0 Washington 15-9-0 UCLA 15-9-0 Arizona 13-11-0 Best case for Arizona next weekend: Arizona sweeps Arizona State. All other top four teams get swept. Standings: Oregon State 17-9-1 Stanford 17-10-0 Arizona 16-11-0 Washington 15-12-0 UCLA 15-12-0 Best case for Arizona the final weekend: UCLA takes the series from Oregon State (sweep or not is irrelevant). Washington takes the series from Stanford (sweep or not is irrelevant). Arizona sweeps Oregon. Arizona wins the conference. Arizona could also win the conference at 8-0-1. The Wildcats could also win the conference, finishing 8-1, if there is at least one tie among the other top four teams.
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Post by wilkyisdashiznit on May 11, 2018 22:27:18 GMT -8
Stanford 17-4-0 37-6-0 @oregon State, Washington State, @washington Oregon State 14-6-1 35-7-1 Stanford, @usc, UCLA UCLA 14-7-0 30-13-0 @washington, Oregon, @oregon State Washington 13-8-0 23-20-0 UCLA, @utah, Stanford Arizona 10-11-0 28-17-0 @california, Arizona State, @oregon
The top four teams each play two of the other three top four teams over the last three weekends. The Beavers and Cardinal control their own destiny. The Bruins and Huskies need help. The Bruins have the tiebreaker over the Cardinal. The Bruins need the Cardinal to drop at least three games over their last three series to have a shot. The Huskies need the Cardinal to drop a game and the Beavers to drop two games over their last three series to have a shot.
Arizona has played each of the top four teams in the conference owns the tiebreaker with both Oregon State and UCLA. With some help, the Wildcats can still win the Pac-12.
Utah and Washington State have each now been officially eliminated from postseason contention. Arizona State probably would not earn a postseason berth even if they won out. Although they have a much better shot than the Devils, California, Oregon, and USC all probably cannot improve their resume enough to merit an at large berth. The Ducks probably have the best shot of the three, and it still looks very grim, even if Oregon won out.Stanford 17-5-0 38-7-0 @oregon State, Washington State, @washington Oregon State 15-6-1 37-7-1 Stanford, @usc, UCLA UCLA 15-7-0 31-14-0 @washington, Oregon, @oregon State Washington 13-9-0 23-21-0 UCLA, @utah, Stanford Arizona 10-12-0 29-18-0 @california, Arizona State, @oregon The Beavers and Cardinal still control their own destiny. The Cardinal dropped a game. The Bruins still need the Cardinal to drop two of their final eight for the Bruins to control their own destiny. The Cardinal lost for the Huskies, but the Huskies also lost. The Huskies now need the Cardinal to lose at least one more plus the Beavers to lose at least three. The Wildcats are still alive for another day but their very thin margin for error has evaporated. The Wildcats need at least a Beaver tie or for one of the Cardinal and Husky games to end in a tie to stand any chance. Arizona can win a two-way tie with UCLA, a three-way tie with Oregon State and UCLA, or a four-way tie with Oregon State, Stanford, and UCLA. All other scenarios that result in a Wildcat conference crown involve multiple ties.
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Post by wilkyisdashiznit on May 12, 2018 21:23:00 GMT -8
Stanford 17-4-0 37-6-0 @oregon State, Washington State, @washington Oregon State 14-6-1 35-7-1 Stanford, @usc, UCLA UCLA 14-7-0 30-13-0 @washington, Oregon, @oregon State Washington 13-8-0 23-20-0 UCLA, @utah, Stanford Arizona 10-11-0 28-17-0 @california, Arizona State, @oregon
The top four teams each play two of the other three top four teams over the last three weekends. The Beavers and Cardinal control their own destiny. The Bruins and Huskies need help. The Bruins have the tiebreaker over the Cardinal. The Bruins need the Cardinal to drop at least three games over their last three series to have a shot. The Huskies need the Cardinal to drop a game and the Beavers to drop two games over their last three series to have a shot.
Arizona has played each of the top four teams in the conference owns the tiebreaker with both Oregon State and UCLA. With some help, the Wildcats can still win the Pac-12.
Utah and Washington State have each now been officially eliminated from postseason contention. Arizona State probably would not earn a postseason berth even if they won out. Although they have a much better shot than the Devils, California, Oregon, and USC all probably cannot improve their resume enough to merit an at large berth. The Ducks probably have the best shot of the three, and it still looks very grim, even if Oregon won out.Stanford 17-5-0 38-7-0 @oregon State, Washington State, @washington Oregon State 15-6-1 37-7-1 Stanford, @usc, UCLA UCLA 15-7-0 31-14-0 @washington, Oregon, @oregon State Washington 13-9-0 23-21-0 UCLA, @utah, Stanford Arizona 10-12-0 29-18-0 @california, Arizona State, @oregon The Beavers and Cardinal still control their own destiny. The Cardinal dropped a game. The Bruins still need the Cardinal to drop two of their final eight for the Bruins to control their own destiny. The Cardinal lost for the Huskies, but the Huskies also lost. The Huskies now need the Cardinal to lose at least one more plus the Beavers to lose at least three. The Wildcats are still alive for another day but their very thin margin for error has evaporated. The Wildcats need at least a Beaver tie or for one of the Cardinal and Husky games to end in a tie to stand any chance. Arizona can win a two-way tie with UCLA, a three-way tie with Oregon State and UCLA, or a four-way tie with Oregon State, Stanford, and UCLA. All other scenarios that result in a Wildcat conference crown involve multiple ties. Stanford 17-6-0 38-8-0 @oregon State, Washington State, @washington Oregon State 16-6-1 38-7-1 Stanford, @usc, UCLA UCLA 15-8-0 31-15-0 @washington, Oregon, @oregon State Washington 14-9-0 24-21-0 UCLA, @utah, Stanford The Beavers and Cardinal still control their own destiny. The Cardinal dropped a game. The Bruins still need the Cardinal to drop two of their final sevenfor the Bruins to control their own destiny. The Huskies are now within three of the Cardinal. However, Washington still needs Oregon State to lose at least three. The Wildcats got all of the help that they needed but the Bears won the series against the Wildcats to officially eliminate Arizona. Unless Washington wins the Pac-12, Arizona remains the Pac-12's best shot at picking up a third at large bid.
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Post by jdogge on May 13, 2018 2:01:07 GMT -8
Stanford 17-5-0 38-7-0 @oregon State, Washington State, @washington Oregon State 15-6-1 37-7-1 Stanford, @usc, UCLA UCLA 15-7-0 31-14-0 @washington, Oregon, @oregon State Washington 13-9-0 23-21-0 UCLA, @utah, Stanford Arizona 10-12-0 29-18-0 @california, Arizona State, @oregon The Beavers and Cardinal still control their own destiny. The Cardinal dropped a game. The Bruins still need the Cardinal to drop two of their final eight for the Bruins to control their own destiny. The Cardinal lost for the Huskies, but the Huskies also lost. The Huskies now need the Cardinal to lose at least one more plus the Beavers to lose at least three. The Wildcats are still alive for another day but their very thin margin for error has evaporated. The Wildcats need at least a Beaver tie or for one of the Cardinal and Husky games to end in a tie to stand any chance. Arizona can win a two-way tie with UCLA, a three-way tie with Oregon State and UCLA, or a four-way tie with Oregon State, Stanford, and UCLA. All other scenarios that result in a Wildcat conference crown involve multiple ties. Stanford 17-6-0 38-8-0 @oregon State, Washington State, @washington Oregon State 16-6-1 38-7-1 Stanford, @usc, UCLA UCLA 15-8-0 31-15-0 @washington, Oregon, @oregon State Washington 14-9-0 24-21-0 UCLA, @utah, Stanford The Beavers and Cardinal still control their own destiny. The Cardinal dropped a game. The Bruins still need the Cardinal to drop two of their final sevenfor the Bruins to control their own destiny. The Huskies are now within three of the Cardinal. However, Washington still needs Oregon State to lose at least three. The Wildcats got all of the help that they needed but the Bears won the series against the Wildcats to officially eliminate Arizona. Unless Washington wins the Pac-12, Arizona remains the Pac-12's best shot at picking up a third at large bid. What happens if: Stanford 22-8 OSU 22-7-1
Do we finish the WSU game 3?
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Post by sagebrush on May 13, 2018 4:30:22 GMT -8
We are stuck with the tie. For better or worse. That a curfew could determine a championship is sad but everyone lives with that possibility.
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Post by beavermd on May 13, 2018 6:04:37 GMT -8
Stanford 17-6-0 38-8-0 @oregon State, Washington State, @washington Oregon State 16-6-1 38-7-1 Stanford, @usc, UCLA UCLA 15-8-0 31-15-0 @washington, Oregon, @oregon State Washington 14-9-0 24-21-0 UCLA, @utah, Stanford The Beavers and Cardinal still control their own destiny. The Cardinal dropped a game. The Bruins still need the Cardinal to drop two of their final sevenfor the Bruins to control their own destiny. The Huskies are now within three of the Cardinal. However, Washington still needs Oregon State to lose at least three. The Wildcats got all of the help that they needed but the Bears won the series against the Wildcats to officially eliminate Arizona. Unless Washington wins the Pac-12, Arizona remains the Pac-12's best shot at picking up a third at large bid. What happens if: Stanford 22-8 OSU 22-7-1
Do we finish the WSU game 3? We win the PAC-12 title.
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Post by jrbeav59 on May 13, 2018 7:02:10 GMT -8
What happens if: Stanford 22-8 OSU 22-7-1
Do we finish the WSU game 3? We win the PAC-12 title. Would that put us 1/4 game ahead?
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Post by beavermd on May 13, 2018 7:24:35 GMT -8
Would that put us 1/4 game ahead? 1/2
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Post by thewizard on May 13, 2018 7:26:48 GMT -8
Would that put us 1/4 game ahead? Beavers end up with a 0.758 winning percentage Cardinal end up with a 0.733 winning percentage PAC-12 Title to Beavers!
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Post by beaverbeliever on May 13, 2018 10:32:01 GMT -8
And regardless, in that scenario we'd have the head-to-head tie breaker.
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