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Post by orangeattack on Mar 1, 2018 12:11:58 GMT -8
This makes me happy to hear that at least someone is getting some use out of Truax. But, if you've ever been to a Ducks game and been in the Mo... you would be forced to agree, the IPF is woefully under-utilized. I have never been, what do they do differently? What could we incorporate into the Truax experience? Most important, is it free? Yes, free to enter. One of the main things that they do there is instead of having all the merch in an equivalent of Parker Plaza like we do, they have a Ducks Store inside the Mo. Microbrews, tons and tons of food options, high top tables everywhere for people to gather around, and projector TV's with every game in the country represented somewhere, with a huge screen for the most important game of the day. And, they advertise the heck out of it, so it ends up being a pretty full house and lively atmosphere. There would never be any possible way you could throw around a football in there. I think part of the issue is that the CH2M Hill Alumni Center pulls some of the potential customers. I'd work on creating a special atmosphere in the IPF and move that group out of the Alumni Center, for starters. I'd move concessions out of Parker Plaza and create a permanent home attached to the IPF, and invest some effort in making the IPF into a hub of activity instead of an afterthought.
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Post by obf on Mar 1, 2018 12:53:18 GMT -8
I have never been, what do they do differently? What could we incorporate into the Truax experience? Most important, is it free? Yes, free to enter. One of the main things that they do there is instead of having all the merch in an equivalent of Parker Plaza like we do, they have a Ducks Store inside the Mo. Microbrews, tons and tons of food options, high top tables everywhere for people to gather around, and projector TV's with every game in the country represented somewhere, with a huge screen for the most important game of the day. And, they advertise the heck out of it, so it ends up being a pretty full house and lively atmosphere. There would never be any possible way you could throw around a football in there. I think part of the issue is that the CH2M Hill Alumni Center pulls some of the potential customers. I'd work on creating a special atmosphere in the IPF and move that group out of the Alumni Center, for starters. I'd move concessions out of Parker Plaza and create a permanent home attached to the IPF, and invest some effort in making the IPF into a hub of activity instead of an afterthought. Yeah, here is the rare case that the cozy nature of Corvallis makes things a little muddied... Just looking at google maps it looks like The Mo is really the only place to congregate under cover pregame, so it is an easy natural spot for the *ucks game day folks and fans to concentrate on. So you can tailgate in the lots, or go to the Mo. In Corvallis where everything is close and walking distance there isn't that central location. You have CH2M, The Beaver store, Parker Plaza, several tailgating lots, and then finally Truax; not to mention the handful of bars and eateries within walking distance to grab a couple brews at before walking over. So it is true that the game day festivities get a little spread thin, if we tried to squeeze everything from all those places into Truax and the practice field next to it the atmosphere would probably be very similar to the Mo. Of course, I wouldn't be going to it then... that would necessarily push out the bounce houses, take the practice field where lots of folks throw the ball and kick extra points, and just in general make it claustrophobic for a family with kids... I don't * WANT* the experience you describe in the Mo. Shoulder to shoulder, jostling for room, that sounds awful. There is already plenty of that in the stadium itself. I want to spread out, put my stuff down for a little bit at a table and not worry about it getting stolen or pissing someone off for taking a seat I am not actually sitting at, let the kids run around, watch a couple minutes of other games, and in general relax for a minute before going into the game... Personally I think it is great that we have multiple options for pregame festivities. Yeah it probably means that no one place gets the attention it deserves, but it suits me and my family quite well.
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Post by orangeattack on Mar 1, 2018 13:45:45 GMT -8
Yes, free to enter. One of the main things that they do there is instead of having all the merch in an equivalent of Parker Plaza like we do, they have a Ducks Store inside the Mo. Microbrews, tons and tons of food options, high top tables everywhere for people to gather around, and projector TV's with every game in the country represented somewhere, with a huge screen for the most important game of the day. And, they advertise the heck out of it, so it ends up being a pretty full house and lively atmosphere. There would never be any possible way you could throw around a football in there. I think part of the issue is that the CH2M Hill Alumni Center pulls some of the potential customers. I'd work on creating a special atmosphere in the IPF and move that group out of the Alumni Center, for starters. I'd move concessions out of Parker Plaza and create a permanent home attached to the IPF, and invest some effort in making the IPF into a hub of activity instead of an afterthought. Yeah, here is the rare case that the cozy nature of Corvallis makes things a little muddied... Just looking at google maps it looks like The Mo is really the only place to congregate under cover pregame, so it is an easy natural spot for the *ucks game day folks and fans to concentrate on. So you can tailgate in the lots, or go to the Mo. In Corvallis where everything is close and walking distance there isn't that central location. You have CH2M, The Beaver store, Parker Plaza, several tailgating lots, and then finally Truax; not to mention the handful of bars and eateries within walking distance to grab a couple brews at before walking over. So it is true that the game day festivities get a little spread thin, if we tried to squeeze everything from all those places into Truax and the practice field next to it the atmosphere would probably be very similar to the Mo. Of course, I wouldn't be going to it then... that would necessarily push out the bounce houses, take the practice field where lots of folks throw the ball and kick extra points, and just in general make it claustrophobic for a family with kids... I don't * WANT* the experience you describe in the Mo. Shoulder to shoulder, jostling for room, that sounds awful. There is already plenty of that in the stadium itself. I want to spread out, put my stuff down for a little bit at a table and not worry about it getting stolen or pissing someone off for taking a seat I am not actually sitting at, let the kids run around, watch a couple minutes of other games, and in general relax for a minute before going into the game... Personally I think it is great that we have multiple options for pregame festivities. Yeah it probably means that no one place gets the attention it deserves, but it suits me and my family quite well. I would counter that the problem is that the situation in Corvallis is not about how close everything is, but rather how spread out it is. You said it yourself - there's the bookstore, parker plaza, the alumni center, and the IPF itself. I'm proposing that the experience would be massively improved if it was more centralized. To me, the preference that you state is similar to being happy that the games aren't selling out, because you can spread out during the game without all the seats taken up, it's easier to get out of town, bathroom lines are shorter etc. It's not wrong, it's just short-sighted.
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Post by joeavocado on Mar 1, 2018 15:28:35 GMT -8
It's apples and oranges comparing uo mo center and the IPF because the mo is within the walls/gates of Autzen. You can come and go without having to re-enter the stadium, stand in line, show a ticket or have a hand stamp. Secondly, the east siders of Reser have delays getting over to the IPF for key periods of time while the visiting team is entering and exiting the field pre-game and at halftime due to their locker room being in Gill. I think most east side people avoid that hassle and distance and go to the alumni center, we gave up on making it to the IPF years ago. Granted, if they offered more options the IPF would get a larger crowd, however the mo is the primary partying spot for a stadium of 50K to 55K people whereas Reser has 2-3 options for a crowd of 30K to 40K, so it's never going to be the same.
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Post by orangeattack on Mar 1, 2018 16:55:51 GMT -8
It's apples and oranges comparing uo mo center and the IPF because the mo is within the walls/gates of Autzen. You can come and go without having to re-enter the stadium, stand in line, show a ticket or have a hand stamp. Secondly, the east siders of Reser have delays getting over to the IPF for key periods of time while the visiting team is entering and exiting the field pre-game and at halftime due to their locker room being in Gill. I think most east side people avoid that hassle and distance and go to the alumni center, we gave up on making it to the IPF years ago. Granted, if they offered more options the IPF would get a larger crowd, however the mo is the primary partying spot for a stadium of 50K to 55K people whereas Reser has 2-3 options for a crowd of 30K to 40K, so it's never going to be the same. This is an excellent point. I do feel that the Mo is a bit of a drawback in this way, because it pulls butts from the seats as the game nears halftime and for the start of the 3rd Q. I would rather see the IPF emphasized for pre- and post-game but I'd also like to see no re-entry after the 3rd Q at Reser starts, to discourage the inevitable empty seats.
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Post by obf on Mar 2, 2018 7:50:02 GMT -8
While we are talking about game day experience... Something I have never understood... Why don't they sell $10 beers to the unwashed masses??? Only the club, lodge and terrace gets access to that sweet, overpriced lager, the rest of us yokels have to sneak it in, or wander all the way back out to our tailgates... Seems like a huge loss of potential revenue, and there is a noticeable absence in the stadium starting a few minutes before halftime and lasting until midway through the third quarter... Shooting the stupid firework to "remind" people to get back in the stadium isn't going to help either.... No one is forgetting they are at a football game, they just want to keep their buzz going! No reentry after halftime and giving us the privilege of paying for a 4 pack of Sticky hands for a pint of something not nearly as good would ensure A LOT more butts in seats to start the third quarter... Plus MOAR $$$$ which seems to be the answer for everything
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Post by kersting13 on Mar 2, 2018 8:40:14 GMT -8
While we are talking about game day experience... Something I have never understood... Why don't they sell $10 beers to the unwashed masses??? Only the club, lodge and terrace gets access to that sweet, overpriced lager, the rest of us yokels have to sneak it in, or wander all the way back out to our tailgates... Seems like a huge loss of potential revenue, and there is a noticeable absence in the stadium starting a few minutes before halftime and lasting until midway through the third quarter... Shooting the stupid firework to "remind" people to get back in the stadium isn't going to help either.... No one is forgetting they are at a football game, they just want to keep their buzz going! No reentry after halftime and giving us the privilege of paying for a 4 pack of Sticky hands for a pint of something not nearly as good would ensure A LOT more butts in seats to start the third quarter... Plus MOAR $$$$ which seems to be the answer for everything it's easy to understand. Many colleges do not want to sell alcohol in their stadium because, you know, most of their student body is under-age, and it kind of sets a bad precedent. That said, once you start selling it in the Club, then the Terrace, it becomes a slippery slope to selling it all over the stadium. I suspect we'll end up there in the not too distant future.
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Post by obf on Mar 2, 2018 9:26:55 GMT -8
While we are talking about game day experience... Something I have never understood... Why don't they sell $10 beers to the unwashed masses??? Only the club, lodge and terrace gets access to that sweet, overpriced lager, the rest of us yokels have to sneak it in, or wander all the way back out to our tailgates... Seems like a huge loss of potential revenue, and there is a noticeable absence in the stadium starting a few minutes before halftime and lasting until midway through the third quarter... Shooting the stupid firework to "remind" people to get back in the stadium isn't going to help either.... No one is forgetting they are at a football game, they just want to keep their buzz going! No reentry after halftime and giving us the privilege of paying for a 4 pack of Sticky hands for a pint of something not nearly as good would ensure A LOT more butts in seats to start the third quarter... Plus MOAR $$$$ which seems to be the answer for everything it's easy to understand. Many colleges do not want to sell alcohol in their stadium because, you know, most of their student body is under-age, and it kind of sets a bad precedent. That said, once you start selling it in the Club, then the Terrace, it becomes a slippery slope to selling it all over the stadium. I suspect we'll end up there in the not too distant future. So... don't sell it in the student section then... Or check IDs at the point of sale like every other institution in the world that sells alcohol. This seems like a really flimsy reason. So clods can manage to suss out the 19 year olds from the 22 year olds, but Reser stadium can't? (All the bars are actually not very good at it, but I don't think anyone other than the bike cops handing out MIPs actually really care all that much...) Selling beer at Reser won't change the rate of drunk 19 year olds on games days, not one iota.
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Post by kersting13 on Mar 2, 2018 10:58:08 GMT -8
it's easy to understand. Many colleges do not want to sell alcohol in their stadium because, you know, most of their student body is under-age, and it kind of sets a bad precedent. That said, once you start selling it in the Club, then the Terrace, it becomes a slippery slope to selling it all over the stadium. I suspect we'll end up there in the not too distant future. So... don't sell it in the student section then... Or check IDs at the point of sale like every other institution in the world that sells alcohol. This seems like a really flimsy reason. So clods can manage to suss out the 19 year olds from the 22 year olds, but Reser stadium can't? (All the bars are actually not very good at it, but I don't think anyone other than the bike cops handing out MIPs actually really care all that much...) Selling beer at Reser won't change the rate of drunk 19 year olds on games days, not one iota. Well, I'm not disagreeing with you, but I think it's kind of like how they don' sell cigarettes at the Hospital convenience store. OSU is not even close to being the only school that doesn't sell beer to the GP.
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Post by mbabeav on Mar 2, 2018 11:04:10 GMT -8
it's easy to understand. Many colleges do not want to sell alcohol in their stadium because, you know, most of their student body is under-age, and it kind of sets a bad precedent. That said, once you start selling it in the Club, then the Terrace, it becomes a slippery slope to selling it all over the stadium. I suspect we'll end up there in the not too distant future. So... don't sell it in the student section then... Or check IDs at the point of sale like every other institution in the world that sells alcohol. This seems like a really flimsy reason. So clods can manage to suss out the 19 year olds from the 22 year olds, but Reser stadium can't? (All the bars are actually not very good at it, but I don't think anyone other than the bike cops handing out MIPs actually really care all that much...) Selling beer at Reser won't change the rate of drunk 19 year olds on games days, not one iota. O for the days when boda bags and plastic bottles of MD 20-20 were in plain view in the student section - I am not encouraging underage drinking because I was legal when I came to OSU. But the pendulum swings, and right now it has swung way out. I bet there are a lot of students thankful for edible cannabis
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Post by Henry Skrimshander on Mar 2, 2018 12:03:26 GMT -8
It's gonna happen. Only a matter of time. Look for the Terrace area to be converted into an open-to-all point of sale. Too much revenue on the table.
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