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Post by baseba1111 on Feb 21, 2018 21:37:22 GMT -8
No... they are not... they were basically .500 last year and 19-9 in a weak league and 1-2 in their tourney... so if you mean better than some you mean #'s 10-12 in the Pac12??? ok... maybe, but playing a Pac12 schedule week in and week out is far different than that league... New Mexico won the Mountain West regular season championship in 2017 but fell off at the end of the season going 2-7 over the last nine (28-20-1 before that), including the three games in the conference tournament. All losses were to the top four teams in the Mountain West though: San Diego State, Fresno State, and Nevada. New Mexico went 10-16 in non-conference games but played the hardest non-conference schedule in the country with four games against #5 Texas Tech (1-3 with two games in Albuquerque and two games in Lubbock); three games with the Missouri Valley Conference regular season champion and Fort Worth Super Regional participant, Missouri State (2-1); three games in Fullerton against College World Series participant, Cal State Fullerton (0-3); two games in Stillwater against Big 12 Champion, Oklahoma State (0-2); three games against Missouri Valley Conference Champion, Dallas Baptist (1-2 with three games in Dallas); a game in San Diego against the Toreros; three games with American East regular season champion Binghamton (3-0); two games in Manhattan against Kansas State; two games with WAC regular season champion Grand Canyon (1-1 in Albuquerque); and three games with WAC regular season co-champion New Mexico State (2-1 with one game at home, one away, and one "neutral site game" in El Paso). New Mexico finished with an RPI of 74, which would place the Lobos at eighth in RPI in the Pac-12. Ohio State, USC, and Washington all had worse RPIs and handed Oregon State a loss. San Diego State, who won the Mountain West Tournament, eliminated UCLA (who finished third in the Pac-12) before bowing out to Long Beach State in the Long Beach Regional. UCLA was the fourth team that handed Oregon State a regular season loss. New Mexico scored 23 runs against San Diego State in their three-game regular season set in San Diego before the Aztecs upset New Mexico by a run in the Mountain West Tournament. I think New Mexico very well could have finished as high as third in the Pac-12 last year. Oregon State was great. Stanford was decent. The conference 3-8 was rather mediocre. The bottom of the conference was downright bad. The Beavers beating the Lobos 20-5 in two games is a great start to the season! Im not going to get into a "pissing up the rope" contest over something that regurgitating stats doesn't determine. Winning two games is ALL that matters. 20-5 means zip, zero, zilch, nada in the long run. As for how NM would fair... lol... 19-9 in the MWC in no way equates to 3rd in the Pac12 no matter the year. As I mentioned, playing a Pac12 schedule week in week out is far different than playing in the MWC. You say the Pac12 was weak... how do you want to measure? Let's use this stat... in the down year the Pac12 had almost double the players drafted than the MWC. Their top? A 3rd rd/#87 (was actually a NM kid I believe). How about... causation or correlation... playing a tough NC slate means??? It obviously means little as OSU's 2017 NC slate was anything but tough and 56-6 and CWS followed. Coloring OSU's opponents as better than they are is common practice, but is totally unnecessary. OSU will be what they will regardless of what these teams are. Again see last year. If you have actually played, coached, scouted, observed baseball for a long period of time, stating NM finishes 3rd in the Pac12 is laughable. That program is 8th or lower... ANY year in recent memory. They were a regular season champ that couldn't win their tourney (1-2 vs teams below them in the regular season)... in a weak league that got ZERO tourney invites. They are picked to win it again this year and got pounded by the predicted Pac12 champ. But they're upper level Pac12? So again, preseason wins are great especially being innings for a lot of people. But, NM is not a Pac12 caliber team. Period. |
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Post by justdamwin on Feb 22, 2018 17:24:56 GMT -8
New Mexico won the Mountain West regular season championship in 2017 but fell off at the end of the season going 2-7 over the last nine (28-20-1 before that), including the three games in the conference tournament. All losses were to the top four teams in the Mountain West though: San Diego State, Fresno State, and Nevada. New Mexico went 10-16 in non-conference games but played the hardest non-conference schedule in the country with four games against #5 Texas Tech (1-3 with two games in Albuquerque and two games in Lubbock); three games with the Missouri Valley Conference regular season champion and Fort Worth Super Regional participant, Missouri State (2-1); three games in Fullerton against College World Series participant, Cal State Fullerton (0-3); two games in Stillwater against Big 12 Champion, Oklahoma State (0-2); three games against Missouri Valley Conference Champion, Dallas Baptist (1-2 with three games in Dallas); a game in San Diego against the Toreros; three games with American East regular season champion Binghamton (3-0); two games in Manhattan against Kansas State; two games with WAC regular season champion Grand Canyon (1-1 in Albuquerque); and three games with WAC regular season co-champion New Mexico State (2-1 with one game at home, one away, and one "neutral site game" in El Paso). New Mexico finished with an RPI of 74, which would place the Lobos at eighth in RPI in the Pac-12. Ohio State, USC, and Washington all had worse RPIs and handed Oregon State a loss. San Diego State, who won the Mountain West Tournament, eliminated UCLA (who finished third in the Pac-12) before bowing out to Long Beach State in the Long Beach Regional. UCLA was the fourth team that handed Oregon State a regular season loss. New Mexico scored 23 runs against San Diego State in their three-game regular season set in San Diego before the Aztecs upset New Mexico by a run in the Mountain West Tournament. I think New Mexico very well could have finished as high as third in the Pac-12 last year. Oregon State was great. Stanford was decent. The conference 3-8 was rather mediocre. The bottom of the conference was downright bad. The Beavers beating the Lobos 20-5 in two games is a great start to the season! Im not going to get into a "pissing up the rope" contest over something that regurgitating stats doesn't determine. Winning two games is ALL that matters. 20-5 means zip, zero, zilch, nada in the long run. As for how NM would fair... lol... 19-9 in the MWC in no way equates to 3rd in the Pac12 no matter the year. As I mentioned, playing a Pac12 schedule week in week out is far different than playing in the MWC. You say the Pac12 was weak... how do you want to measure? Let's use this stat... in the down year the Pac12 had almost double the players drafted than the MWC. Their top? A 3rd rd/#87 (was actually a NM kid I believe). How about... causation or correlation... playing a tough NC slate means??? It obviously means little as OSU's 2017 NC slate was anything but tough and 56-6 and CWS followed. Coloring OSU's opponents as better than they are is common practice, but is totally unnecessary. OSU will be what they will regardless of what these teams are. Again see last year. If you have actually played, coached, scouted, observed baseball for a long period of time, stating NM finishes 3rd in the Pac12 is laughable. That program is 8th or lower... ANY year in recent memory. They were a regular season champ that couldn't win their tourney (1-2 vs teams below them in the regular season)... in a weak league that got ZERO tourney invites. They are picked to win it again this year and got pounded by the predicted Pac12 champ. But they're upper level Pac12? So again, preseason wins are great especially being innings for a lot of people. But, NM is not a Pac12 caliber team. Period. I love these arguments because they are unprovable. My favorite is the I’m smarter than you, or have more experience and the “ if you would watch” argument Having said that. Others do have credentials and personally, I think New Mexico is somewhere from five (Utah) down in the PAC. Which incidentally so would be eight conference teams.The Beavs beat their no.1 guy, which beating any Friday starter is nice. Maybe if ii would just add !!!!!😫💪🏻🥕, they’d freaking listen to me. Did Madrigal hit one off the number one guy from the reigning Big ten champion? Putting right on course for my prediction  ?!!!!!🌭🚜 |
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