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Post by drunkandstoopidbeav on Jan 1, 2018 0:29:53 GMT -8
No, he didn't. Not even close to 3 feet. Maybe half of that. It is the same call as traveling. 3 feet has nothing to do with it. The rules I read state there’s no such thing as traveling on an inbounds play. There is however a rule against violating that 3 foot zone. i guess the question is, can you move 3 feet, as some posters here think, or is that 3 feet zone centered on your body’s starting position, which for a kid that size might allow him to move about 18 inches unless he’s doing a little ballet. I’d say he moved more than 18 inches, not 3 feet though.
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Post by beaverchew on Jan 1, 2018 7:09:14 GMT -8
Read the rules there is no such thing as travelling on a throw-in, see page 69 of the NCAA rulebook. Also the thrower-in is only required to keep ONE foot in 3 foot zone, so the violation was not even close, he moved maybe a foot or so but his right foot was always in the 3 foot zone. The rules are very clear about this. This official needs to review the written rules he obviously doesn't understand them. ncaambb.arbitersports.com/Groups/104883/Library/files/BR15.pdf
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Post by Judge Smails on Jan 1, 2018 8:31:43 GMT -8
Read the rules there is no such thing as travelling on a throw-in, see page 69 of the NCAA rulebook. Also the thrower-in is only required to keep ONE foot in 3 foot zone, so the violation was not even close, he moved maybe a foot or so but his right foot was always in the 3 foot zone. The rules are very clear about this. This official needs to review the written rules he obviously doesn't understand them. ncaambb.arbitersports.com/Groups/104883/Library/files/BR15.pdfOk. I was wrong. Different rule then when I played. Still haven’t seen that call in years.
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Post by bill82 on Jan 1, 2018 9:43:15 GMT -8
Read the rules there is no such thing as travelling on a throw-in, see page 69 of the NCAA rulebook. Also the thrower-in is only required to keep ONE foot in 3 foot zone, so the violation was not even close, he moved maybe a foot or so but his right foot was always in the 3 foot zone. The rules are very clear about this. This official needs to review the written rules he obviously doesn't understand them. ncaambb.arbitersports.com/Groups/104883/Library/files/BR15.pdfThe left is his starting position. The right is when the Ref raised his hand. It looks like he did not violate the rule.
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Post by drunkandstoopidbeav on Jan 1, 2018 9:49:47 GMT -8
Read the rules there is no such thing as travelling on a throw-in, see page 69 of the NCAA rulebook. Also the thrower-in is only required to keep ONE foot in 3 foot zone, so the violation was not even close, he moved maybe a foot or so but his right foot was always in the 3 foot zone. The rules are very clear about this. This official needs to review the written rules he obviously doesn't understand them. ncaambb.arbitersports.com/Groups/104883/Library/files/BR15.pdfOnce again, he obviously moved and there’s a very good chance he took up at least 2 feet to 30 inches of that 3 foot area (depending on stance) just standing there. In theory, I f you spread your feet take a 2 inch step to your right, then move 7 inches fully to the left of where your left foot was, you’ve violated the rule. The way I read it, you have a 36 inch wide zone of which you can occupy, you can’t move 36 inches from your original spot. He moved to his left, he had already occupied most of that 36 inch zone before he moved to his left. One would have to really watch the tape to say if was a legit call or not. It very may well have been. It was still a tricky tacky call, it probably gets violated all the time without getting called. Bummer. EDIT: Bill’s post went up while I was writing. If that really is when the ref made the call he’s probably within the zone and a bad call.
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Post by bill82 on Jan 1, 2018 11:06:24 GMT -8
Read the rules there is no such thing as travelling on a throw-in, see page 69 of the NCAA rulebook. Also the thrower-in is only required to keep ONE foot in 3 foot zone, so the violation was not even close, he moved maybe a foot or so but his right foot was always in the 3 foot zone. The rules are very clear about this. This official needs to review the written rules he obviously doesn't understand them. ncaambb.arbitersports.com/Groups/104883/Library/files/BR15.pdfOnce again, he obviously moved and there’s a very good chance he took up at least 2 feet to 30 inches of that 3 foot area (depending on stance) just standing there. In theory, I f you spread your feet take a 2 inch step to your right, then move 7 inches fully to the left of where your left foot was, you’ve violated the rule. The way I read it, you have a 36 inch wide zone of which you can occupy, you can’t move 36 inches from your original spot. He moved to his left, he had already occupied most of that 36 inch zone before he moved to his left. One would have to really watch the tape to say if was a legit call or not. It very may well have been. It was still a tricky tacky call, it probably gets violated all the time without getting called. Bummer. EDIT: Bill’s post went up while I was writing. If that really is when the ref made the call he’s probably within the zone and a bad call. Refs hand in right hand corner.
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Post by drunkandstoopidbeav on Jan 1, 2018 12:59:38 GMT -8
Once again, he obviously moved and there’s a very good chance he took up at least 2 feet to 30 inches of that 3 foot area (depending on stance) just standing there. In theory, I f you spread your feet take a 2 inch step to your right, then move 7 inches fully to the left of where your left foot was, you’ve violated the rule. The way I read it, you have a 36 inch wide zone of which you can occupy, you can’t move 36 inches from your original spot. He moved to his left, he had already occupied most of that 36 inch zone before he moved to his left. One would have to really watch the tape to say if was a legit call or not. It very may well have been. It was still a tricky tacky call, it probably gets violated all the time without getting called. Bummer. EDIT: Bill’s post went up while I was writing. If that really is when the ref made the call he’s probably within the zone and a bad call. Refs hand in right hand corner. They say the average person's reaction time is about a quarter second. Is Ethan's right foot at it's furthest postion from it's starting point just then, or could it have been even a bit further away from the starting point a moment earlier? Also, since we have Ethan's starting point in frame, did his foot move to his right, thereby resetting the boundary, at any point before he started moving to his left. 2-3 pictures really might not tell the entire story. With just the picutures that have been posted it would take a measuriing tape on the floor of Gill to tell if it was 36 inches or not. Edit: I just rethought my thinking and it's tough to argue the ref was even close to correct.
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Post by beaverinohio on Jan 2, 2018 13:05:00 GMT -8
I liked what I saw of Kone over the weekend. Certainly not much of a scorer right now, but he looks like he can give us some quality minutes off the bench.
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Post by nabeav on Jan 2, 2018 15:02:10 GMT -8
I guess it depends on how you interpret 3 feet. He started on the T. He ended on the A. Looks like he moved exactly one whole letter over. There are 11 letters on the court spanning the full width of the court. 11 letters, 50 feet...that means 4 and a half feet per letter. Even taking away space between letters, I think you could say he easily traveled three feet from his starting position, if you compare where his left foot started and where it ended. I don't think it was nearly as bad of a call as I originally thought.
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