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Post by sctsbeaver on Dec 24, 2017 21:47:15 GMT -8
Look at it this way.. We would have been a much better FB Team with 3M at the helm, so much better that GA probably would still be our coach. I won't soon get over what a cluster that was, but I'm also glad there was enough Karma that it came back to bite Andersen in the ass. Felt sorry for us, and 3M, but my guess is Marcus thinks it turned out ok. If I ever see Andersen coaching again it will be to soon, especially if he has anything to do with an offense
Congrats on a fine season Marcus
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Post by RenoBeaver on Dec 24, 2017 22:14:44 GMT -8
I'm not gonna lie. 3M went in to last season as my favorite Beav. We end the season and he's still my favorite Beav, by a Corvallis country mile. (walked a few of those in my day)
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Post by osulax24 on Dec 24, 2017 22:16:57 GMT -8
The worst?? Who was better? Luton is trash so don't go there
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Post by usmc1958 on Dec 24, 2017 22:31:17 GMT -8
He was a pro-style QB recruited by Kragthorpe in a non pro-style system. Believe it or not he probably chose to leave on his own. Every player who chooses to transfer wasn't because they were run off. His NFL stats are irrelevant to how his team did in college. And believe it or not Maid Marion choose to leave on his own. Get over it. We might have won 3 games if he stayed. Is that what you want? Our defense and the rest of our team sucked. It’s not as if we were a QB away from 8 wins. If you're told something like: Son, you will never play a down here. Is that really leaving on your own? Don't think so. This Board is a real eye roller at times. It also, at times makes me think I may not be the dumbest poster around after all.
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Post by BeaverTailChaser on Dec 25, 2017 0:58:27 GMT -8
I'm happy that Marcus left and has found success...he is trying fulfill his dream of playing at high level. Riley recruited him, but between Riley and Langsdork, 3M would not have seen the field until his junior year at minimum. Riley makes it to difficult for QBs to really understand the "whole" playbook. Under him, it usually takes 3 years before anybody "takes shape" at QB. 3M was doomed under the offensive, Boob Squad we had attempting to run our so called offense. Tedford, in an interview said, within 3 days of full speed practice, he realized what 3M could do well and what he was weak at...thus he curtailed the play book by about 2/3rds it's normal size... and ran pass plays that were confidence builders within the first games and added plays as the season progressed. Wow! What a concept...play to the players strengths! Thank goodness JS has stated this is what wants to do with the current players. That's the only way to get better...right from year 1. Go Beavers!
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Post by drunkandstoopidbeav on Dec 25, 2017 1:43:27 GMT -8
I’m thinking there’s actually a few QBs we’ve had that did just fine by their second year of Riley. Smith, DA, Moore to mention a few. There’s no telling how McMaryion would have done in Riley’s program, however odds are he may have been sitting behind Del Rio and then maybe someone else. One thing about 3M, he’s a smart kid. He graduated in 3 years while being in a sport, that doesn’t happen often at this level. Tedford even commented that while 3M was working on learning the playbook one of his biggest attributes was he learned from his mistakes and rarely repeated them. 3M may have never seen the field had Riley stayed... or he may have had a chance to play and thrive, the only thing we know is he really didn’t seem to be given full opportunities under the last coaching staff here.
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Post by BeaverTailChaser on Dec 25, 2017 5:29:27 GMT -8
I’m thinking there’s actually a few QBs we’ve had that did just fine by their second year of Riley. Smith, DA, Moore to mention a few. There’s no telling how McMaryion would have done in Riley’s program, however odds are he may have been sitting behind El Dio and then maybe someone else. One thing about 3M, he’s a smart kid. He graduated in 3 years while being in a sport, that doesn’t happen often at this level. Tedford even commented that while 3M was working on learning the playbook one of his biggest attributes was he learned from his mistakes and rarely repeated them. 3M may have never seen the field had Riley stayed... or he may have had a chance to play and thrive, the only thing we know is he really didn’t seem to be given full opportunities under the last coaching staff here. by the time Riley's QBs are seniors they due fine. Mansion excelled because he played a lot over the 4 year span. Here are some numbers of the players you mentioned...JS gets an incomplete, since he only, actually played under Riley for one year. JS 1998 - 6 games. 44.8% comp. 1427 yards. 6 TDs. 5 Ints. The next 2, I used there Junior years, each 1st years under Riley. DA 2003 - 13 games. 51.2% comp. 4058 yards. 24 TDs. 24 Ints. MM 2005 - 10 games. 59.4% comp. 2711 yards. 11TDs. 19 Ints. Some good and bad here for junior years. A lot of turnovers. I just believe the learning curve for Riley's QBs is steep...and takes time to reflect consistent success. Go Beavs
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Post by BeaverTailChaser on Dec 25, 2017 5:52:40 GMT -8
I’m thinking there’s actually a few QBs we’ve had that did just fine by their second year of Riley. Smith, DA, Moore to mention a few. There’s no telling how McMaryion would have done in Riley’s program, however odds are he may have been sitting behind El Dio and then maybe someone else. One thing about 3M, he’s a smart kid. He graduated in 3 years while being in a sport, that doesn’t happen often at this level. Tedford even commented that while 3M was working on learning the playbook one of his biggest attributes was he learned from his mistakes and rarely repeated them. 3M may have never seen the field had Riley stayed... or he may have had a chance to play and thrive, the only thing we know is he really didn’t seem to be given full opportunities under the last coaching staff here. by the time Riley's QBs are seniors they due fine. Mansion excelled because he played a lot over the 4 year span. Here are some numbers of the players you mentioned...JS gets an incomplete, since he only, actually played under Riley for one year. JS 1998 - 6 games. 44.8% comp. 1427 yards. 6 TDs. 5 Ints. The next 2, I used there Junior years, each 1st years under Riley. DA 2003 - 13 games. 51.2% comp. 4058 yards. 24 TDs. 24 Ints. 3M 2005 - 10 games. 59.4% comp. 2711 yards. 11TDs. 19 Ints. Some good and bad here for junior years. A lot of turnovers. I just believe the learning curve for Riley's QBs is steep...and takes time to reflect consistent success. Go Beavs 3M should be M2...Matt Moore
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Post by alwaysorange on Dec 25, 2017 8:27:11 GMT -8
I'd rather compare Marcus to past Beaver great QBs of which he is not.
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Post by drunkandstoopidbeav on Dec 25, 2017 9:02:48 GMT -8
I’m thinking there’s actually a few QBs we’ve had that did just fine by their second year of Riley. Smith, DA, Moore to mention a few. There’s no telling how McMaryion would have done in Riley’s program, however odds are he may have been sitting behind El Dio and then maybe someone else. One thing about 3M, he’s a smart kid. He graduated in 3 years while being in a sport, that doesn’t happen often at this level. Tedford even commented that while 3M was working on learning the playbook one of his biggest attributes was he learned from his mistakes and rarely repeated them. 3M may have never seen the field had Riley stayed... or he may have had a chance to play and thrive, the only thing we know is he really didn’t seem to be given full opportunities under the last coaching staff here. by the time Riley's QBs are seniors they due fine. Mansion excelled because he played a lot over the 4 year span. Here are some numbers of the players you mentioned...JS gets an incomplete, since he only, actually played under Riley for one year. JS 1998 - 6 games. 44.8% comp. 1427 yards. 6 TDs. 5 Ints. The next 2, I used there Junior years, each 1st years under Riley. DA 2003 - 13 games. 51.2% comp. 4058 yards. 24 TDs. 24 Ints. 3M 2005 - 10 games. 59.4% comp. 2711 yards. 11TDs. 19 Ints. Some good and bad here for junior years. A lot of turnovers. I just believe the learning curve for Riley's QBs is steep...and takes time to reflect consistent success. Go Beavs Deja vu. Once again, the seasons you listed for DA and Moore were their first in Riley’s system. It did not take them 4 years to learn it.
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Post by Henry Skrimshander on Dec 25, 2017 11:09:46 GMT -8
GA hurt us but did Marcus a favor. No way does he play in a bowl game, much less be MVP of the bowl game, this year if he stays at OSU.
He's gone, he's happy, good for him. We're moving on. Time to drop it once and for all.
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Post by drunkandstoopidbeav on Dec 25, 2017 12:07:37 GMT -8
Pacific (Big West) 1992: 3-8 1993: 3-8 1994: 6-5 He played in the NFL. Let me know when Maid Marion does. There’s a chance Fresno runs the table next year. Their out of conference schedule is easier and it’ll be their second year under a new coach and system. If they do, the Mountain West is strong enough they could get a pretty darned good bowl. If Marcus has a good year, he’ll get a lot of the credit. I won’t say 3M will play in the NFL but he very well could get a shot.
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Post by drunkandstoopidbeav on Dec 25, 2017 12:15:07 GMT -8
GA hurt us but did Marcus a favor. No way does he play in a bowl game, much less be MVP of the bowl game, this year if he stays at OSU. He's gone, he's happy, good for him. We're moving on. Time to drop it once and for all. He really did do us a favor. If we had won 3-4 games this year we’d probably have the same coaching staff for the next year or two.
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Post by BeaverTailChaser on Dec 25, 2017 13:20:50 GMT -8
by the time Riley's QBs are seniors they due fine. Mansion excelled because he played a lot over the 4 year span. Here are some numbers of the players you mentioned...JS gets an incomplete, since he only, actually played under Riley for one year. JS 1998 - 6 games. 44.8% comp. 1427 yards. 6 TDs. 5 Ints. The next 2, I used there Junior years, each 1st years under Riley. DA 2003 - 13 games. 51.2% comp. 4058 yards. 24 TDs. 24 Ints. 3M 2005 - 10 games. 59.4% comp. 2711 yards. 11TDs. 19 Ints. Some good and bad here for junior years. A lot of turnovers. I just believe the learning curve for Riley's QBs is steep...and takes time to reflect consistent success. Go Beavs Deja vu. Once again, the seasons you listed for DA and Moore were their first in Riley’s system. It did not take them 4 years to learn it. I understand it was DAs and Moore's first years under Riley...I stated that. I'm just trying to compare Marcus' success under Tedford with only being under his play calling and tuteledge for about 6 months. Trying to compare similar time frames.
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Post by maximumbeaver on Dec 25, 2017 20:23:13 GMT -8
He played in the NFL. Let me know when Maid Marion does. There’s a chance Fresno runs the table next year. Their out of conference schedule is easier and it’ll be their second year under a new coach and system. If they do, the Mountain West is strong enough they could get a pretty darned good bowl. If Marcus has a good year, he’ll get a lot of the credit. I won’t say 3M will play in the NFL but he very well could get a shot. A chance but I’m sure Boise State will have a say about that. They return just about everyone.
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