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Post by 2ndGenBeaver on Dec 27, 2017 12:34:52 GMT -8
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Post by Deleted on Jan 7, 2018 19:31:40 GMT -8
UO goes undefeated in conference this year. You heard it here. You heard it here first.
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Post by messi on Jan 7, 2018 21:21:06 GMT -8
UO goes undefeated in conference this year. You heard it here. You heard it here first. Well, as long as they don’t win a national title. ABo. FTd.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 8, 2018 8:20:30 GMT -8
Yet you won't even bet on it (sucker bet). Funny how that is. Says a lot for your actual confidence in such. lol I would love to be wrong and somebody could beat the *ucks, but they've got "Yaneskyu" plus bigs who can take it to the basket. If any coach in the league can find a way to defeat them, I'll be very impressed. We have ZERO active players who are good ball handlers who can create their own shot. We rely exclusively on an inside-out game of Gulich and 3-pt shooters. If Rueck can somehow find a way to win at home vs the *ucks or UCLA, then I'll be a true Rueck believer, too. But it looks like OSU this year will have at least 6 losses: 2 already, plus 2 to the *ucks, 1 more to UCLA, and 1 to ASU at ASU. Next year should be different with Destiny Slocum. And hopefully Jazz Simmons can develop quickly into a player who can attack the basket, so we won't be relying solely on Destiny. Jazz looks like she has the necessary ball-handling skill and aggressiveness to fill that role.
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Post by kersting13 on Jan 8, 2018 8:50:59 GMT -8
Yet you won't even bet on it (sucker bet). Funny how that is. Says a lot for your actual confidence in such. lol I would love to be wrong and somebody could beat the *ucks, but they've got "Yaneskyu" plus bigs who can take it to the basket. If any coach in the league can find a way to defeat them, I'll be very impressed. We have ZERO active players who are good ball handlers who can create their own shot. We rely exclusively on an inside-out game of Gulich and 3-pt shooters. If Rueck can somehow find a way to win at home vs the *ucks or UCLA, then I'll be a true Rueck believer, too. But it looks like OSU this year will have at least 6 losses: 2 already, plus 2 to the *ucks, 1 more to UCLA, and 1 to ASU at ASU. Next year should be different with Destiny Slocum. And hopefully Jazz Simmons can develop quickly into a player who can attack the basket, so we won't be relying solely on Destiny. Jazz looks like she has the necessary ball-handling skill and aggressiveness to fill that role. After the run Rueck has put together already, you're still not a "true Rueck believer" ? I suppose you're waiting for Belichick to really show you something, too???
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Post by Deleted on Jan 8, 2018 9:02:02 GMT -8
I would love to be wrong and somebody could beat the *ucks, but they've got "Yaneskyu" plus bigs who can take it to the basket. If any coach in the league can find a way to defeat them, I'll be very impressed. We have ZERO active players who are good ball handlers who can create their own shot. We rely exclusively on an inside-out game of Gulich and 3-pt shooters. If Rueck can somehow find a way to win at home vs the *ucks or UCLA, then I'll be a true Rueck believer, too. But it looks like OSU this year will have at least 6 losses: 2 already, plus 2 to the *ucks, 1 more to UCLA, and 1 to ASU at ASU. Next year should be different with Destiny Slocum. And hopefully Jazz Simmons can develop quickly into a player who can attack the basket, so we won't be relying solely on Destiny. Jazz looks like she has the necessary ball-handling skill and aggressiveness to fill that role. After the run Rueck has put together already, you're still not a "true Rueck believer" ? I suppose you're waiting for Belichick to really show you something, too??? Sorry, but Rueck has, until Destiny and Jazz: 1) Failed to recruit speedy ball-handlers and 2) failed to anticipate the now patently obvious weakness in our lack thereof and prepare plays to compensate for our deficiencies. It's like Rueck has a single concept of how to play women's basketball that consists of an inside-out game. He's never had guards with sufficient skill (with the possible exception of Sydney) to attack the basket and therefore is intellectually unable to adapt his offense appropriately. Is he teaching the individual skills needed to attack the basket, or has he just been teaching how to pass around the perimeter to an open 3 point shooter or inside to the big? I'm not convinced. Given the humiliating ease with which UCLA shut down our offense, you should be having doubts, too.
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Post by ricke71 on Jan 8, 2018 9:42:28 GMT -8
You do realize that you’ve disproved you own objection #1 to Rueck? ....By stating “failed to recruit” regarding something that has in fact occurred (Destiny IS HERE and arrived despite vigorous recruiting competition...and Simmons HAS committed)... your complaint is moot. If Destiny had transferred to UW and Simmons had selected Cal, your point would have been spot on.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 8, 2018 9:55:04 GMT -8
You do realize that you’ve disproved you own objection #1 to Rueck? ....By stating “failed to recruit” regarding something that has in fact occurred (Destiny IS HERE and arrived despite vigorous recruiting competition...and Simmons HAS committed)... your complaint is moot. If Destiny had transferred to UW and Simmons had selected Cal, your point would have been spot on. Until he has shown he can effectively utilize these new players, my concerns are valid. Regarding DS and JS, he has at least been, until now, delinquent in fulfilling the need for ball-handlers. That raises questions about his coaching acumen. Your objections to criticisms of Rueck seem reflexive. No one is allowed to suggest that John Wooden was just an average basketball coach, since he had success and has since been portrayed as a basketball genius. Similarly, Rueck's past success seems for some people sufficient to prove that his coaching skills are beyond reproach, but it does not mean he does not have flaws. He may have learned, or he may just now be in the process of learning, that changes are needed. The verdict is still out.
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Post by Henry Skrimshander on Jan 8, 2018 10:54:28 GMT -8
You go right ahead and suggest that John Wooden was an average basketball coach. After reading your posts, it would be in character.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 8, 2018 11:20:01 GMT -8
You go right ahead and suggest that John Wooden was an average basketball coach. After reading your posts, it would be in character. Exactly the kind of reflexive response that I was referring to. Wooden's success was bolstered by the attraction of UCLA and its climate and he was surrounded by a hotbed of talented potential recruits. How would he have done without Lew Alcindor, Bill Walton, Sidney Wicks, Gail Goodrich, and others? No one can answer that question, yet you regard it as answered. Thus, reflexive.
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Post by Henry Skrimshander on Jan 8, 2018 11:38:49 GMT -8
Keep digging. You haven't hit bottom yet.
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Post by baseba1111 on Jan 8, 2018 12:00:21 GMT -8
You go right ahead and suggest that John Wooden was an average basketball coach. After reading your posts, it would be in character. Exactly the kind of reflexive response that I was referring to. Wooden's success was bolstered by the attraction of UCLA and its climate and he was surrounded by a hotbed of talented potential recruits. How would he have done without Lew Alcindor, Bill Walton, Sidney Wicks, Gail Goodrich, and others? No one can answer that question, yet you regard it as answered. Thus, reflexive. Lol... not that he wasn't a great man and basketball mind, but he also was party to one of the biggest pay to play boosters in college sports. UCLA's championships were all dirty and made SMU's scandal look like childs play. So... there's that.
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Post by thickster on Jan 8, 2018 12:11:15 GMT -8
Exactly the kind of reflexive response that I was referring to. Wooden's success was bolstered by the attraction of UCLA and its climate and he was surrounded by a hotbed of talented potential recruits. How would he have done without Lew Alcindor, Bill Walton, Sidney Wicks, Gail Goodrich, and others? No one can answer that question, yet you regard it as answered. Thus, reflexive. Lol... not that he wasn't a great man and basketball mind, but he also was party to one of the biggest pay to play boosters in college sports. UCLA's championships were all dirty and made SMU's scandal look like childs play. So... there's that. Thank you Mr. BaseBa11111111 for enlightening this ignorant soul. Once again, you have proven your worth and are a truly heroic figure in my eyes. I was unaware of the dirt you refer to. I guess the latest UCLA sunglasses theft incident IS in the fine tradition of Coach Wooden after all. "15 years of transgressions" wasn't enough, I guess, for Mr. Wooden to even suspect a smidgen of impropriety. Smart man, he was! I'm sure it won't changes the minds of some, however. I found the following on Wikipedia: A 1981 investigation by the Los Angeles Times found that Gilbert had regularly helped athletes get discounts on items such as automobiles, stereos and airline tickets for UCLA players, and in so doing, apparently committed numerous violations of NCAA regulations.[17][18][19] The investigation did not uncover evidence that Wooden had explicit personal awareness of Gilbert's activities.[17] However, Gilbert's overall influence in the lives of the players was no secret.[20] This led the Times reporters to conclude that if Wooden was not aware of the specifics of Gilbert's favors for players, it was only because Wooden made no effort to discover those details.[17][21] For his part, Wooden acknowledged that he had always felt uneasy about Gilbert's relationship with the players, but steadfastly denied having knowledge at the time of anything done by Gilbert that was in violation of NCAA regulations.[17][22][23][24][25] He also asserted that both he and UCLA athletic director J.D. Morgan had advised players to steer clear of Gilbert, but that ultimately they could not control the players' or Gilbert's actions.[26] Given what later came to light, however, Wooden granted that he may have had "tunnel vision"[17][24] and that he perhaps "trusted too much". Nonetheless, Wooden said that his "conscience [was] clear" with regard to his own role in the matter.[17] Following the investigation in 1981, in which, according to the Los Angeles Times, 15 years worth of evidence of transgressions had been collected,[10][27] the UCLA basketball team was given two years NCAA probation.[28] UCLA also was forced to vacate its Final Four appearance in the 1980 NCAA Men's Division I Basketball Tournament due to recruiting violations involving Kiki Vandeweghe and Rod Foster.
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Post by ricke71 on Jan 8, 2018 12:35:45 GMT -8
You do realize that you’ve disproved you own objection #1 to Rueck? ....By stating “failed to recruit” regarding something that has in fact occurred (Destiny IS HERE and arrived despite vigorous recruiting competition...and Simmons HAS committed)... your complaint is moot. If Destiny had transferred to UW and Simmons had selected Cal, your point would have been spot on. Until he has shown he can effectively utilize these new players, my concerns are valid. Regarding DS and JS, he has at least been, until now, delinquent in fulfilling the need for ball-handlers. That raises questions about his coaching acumen. Your objections to criticisms of Rueck seem reflexive. No one is allowed to suggest that John Wooden was just an average basketball coach, since he had success and has since been portrayed as a basketball genius. Similarly, Rueck's past success seems for some people sufficient to prove that his coaching skills are beyond reproach, but it does not mean he does not have flaws. He may have learned, or he may just now be in the process of learning, that changes are needed. The verdict is still out. How's this for reflexive? New standard for verdict on Rueck: UNTIL he has shown he can effectively use players like Destiny Slocum & Simmons to REACH the Final Four for his first time....oh...Hey!..... wait a minute: What was that Rueck team doing in Indianapolis, less than 2 years ago? Maybe the players on that squad were all LaVonda Wagner recruits....No that's not it.... mmmmm...Beats Me ??
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Post by thickster on Jan 8, 2018 12:42:21 GMT -8
That meets my criteria. I worship you.
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