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Post by Werebeaver on Dec 2, 2017 22:04:54 GMT -8
In her career thus far. 73.7%
But 0-1 from the free throw line.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 3, 2017 4:46:21 GMT -8
14 of 20 now, looking at season stats. I looked on the national rankings and she's not there. If she were there, she'd be #1, ahead of the current leader who is at 67%. However, they have criteria of 1) a minimum of 2 made 3-pt shots per game and 2) played in in 75% of her team's games. She's only played in 5 of 7 games, or about 72%. One more played-in game (at 6 of 8) and she'll qualify.
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Post by jefframp on Dec 3, 2017 5:49:01 GMT -8
14 of 20 now, looking at season stats. I looked on the national rankings and she's not there. If she were there, she'd be #1, ahead of the current leader who is at 67%. However, they have criteria of 1) a minimum of 2 made 3-pt shots per game and 2) played in in 75% of her team's games. She's only played in 5 of 7 games, or about 72%. One more played-in game (at 6 of 8) and she'll qualify. I could look it up but I wonder what her 3 pt. % is against our quality opponents, mainly ND and Duke?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 3, 2017 8:05:10 GMT -8
14 of 20 now, looking at season stats. I looked on the national rankings and she's not there. If she were there, she'd be #1, ahead of the current leader who is at 67%. However, they have criteria of 1) a minimum of 2 made 3-pt shots per game and 2) played in in 75% of her team's games. She's only played in 5 of 7 games, or about 72%. One more played-in game (at 6 of 8) and she'll qualify. I could look it up but I wonder what her 3 pt. % is against our quality opponents, mainly ND and Duke? She was 2 of 4 vs Duke. Did not play vs Notre Dame, which may seem like a mistake now given her spectacular shooting skills.
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Post by Werebeaver on Dec 3, 2017 12:29:23 GMT -8
14 of 20 now, looking at season stats. I looked on the national rankings and she's not there. If she were there, she'd be #1, ahead of the current leader who is at 67%. However, they have criteria of 1) a minimum of 2 made 3-pt shots per game and 2) played in in 75% of her team's games. She's only played in 5 of 7 games, or about 72%. One more played-in game (at 6 of 8) and she'll qualify. So her 3-point percentage has fallen down to 70%.
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Post by Werebeaver on Dec 3, 2017 12:54:11 GMT -8
She was 2 of 4 vs Duke. Did not play vs Notre Dame, which may seem like a mistake now given her spectacular shooting skills. She's a fairly (for college) poor dribbler (overall, still), so although her shooting could possibly have been a plus ... her ball handling would have definitely been a net liability (vs. Notre Lame). I don't know about dribbling but as far as minutes played/turnovers she's doing better Pivec and Gulich: PLAYER | TO | MIN | MIN/TO | TUDOR | 3 | 183 | 61.0 | COROSDALE | 2 | 111 | 55.5 | MCWILLIAMS | 7 | 217 | 31.0 | WASHINGTON | 4 | 114 | 28.5 | GRYMEK | 4 | 79 | 19.8 | KALMER | 11 | 166 | 15.1 | GOODMAN | 9 | 91 | 10.1 | GULICH | 18 | 179 | 9.9 | PIVEC | 20 | 197 | 9.9 | THROPAY | 7 | 63 | 9.0 |
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Post by Werebeaver on Dec 3, 2017 13:13:40 GMT -8
I don't know about dribbling but as far as minutes played/turnovers she's doing better Pivec and Gulich: PLAYER | TO | MIN | MIN/TO | TUDOR | 3 | 183 | 61.0 | COROSDALE | 2 | 111 | 55.5 | MCWILLIAMS | 7 | 217 | 31.0 | WASHINGTON | 4 | 114 | 28.5 | GRYMEK | 4 | 79 | 19.8 | KALMER | 11 | 166 | 15.1 | GOODMAN | 9 | 91 | 10.1 | GULICH | 18 | 179 | 9.9 | PIVEC | 20 | 197 | 9.9 | THROPAY | 7 | 63 | 9.0 |
static.osubeavers.com/custompages/WBB/teamcume.htm?path=wbballYou clearly didn't watch the game, yesterday. She's simply not a good "college" dribbler (at this point in time), for her position. Turnovers can be from passing errors, steals (other team) or other. That stat table can only illuminate so much, by itself. I watched the entire game. Aleah is a freshman making the usual freshman mistakes. Just like Sydney, Gabby and Katie Mc did when they were freshmen. She also led the team in assists for the weekend with 5 against Nevada and 4 against USU for 9 of the team's total of 44. I think her scoring and assists offset some of those freshman dribbling concerns - which will improve as she gains game experience.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 3, 2017 13:26:32 GMT -8
She's a fairly (for college) poor dribbler (overall, still), so although her shooting could possibly have been a plus ... her ball handling would have definitely been a net liability (vs. Notre Lame). I don't know about dribbling but as far as minutes played/turnovers she's doing better Pivec and Gulich: PLAYER | TO | MIN | MIN/TO | TUDOR | 3 | 183 | 61.0 | COROSDALE | 2 | 111 | 55.5 | MCWILLIAMS | 7 | 217 | 31.0 | WASHINGTON | 4 | 114 | 28.5 | GRYMEK | 4 | 79 | 19.8 | KALMER | 11 | 166 | 15.1 | GOODMAN | 9 | 91 | 10.1 | GULICH | 18 | 179 | 9.9 | PIVEC | 20 | 197 | 9.9 | THROPAY | 7 | 63 | 9.0 |
static.osubeavers.com/custompages/WBB/teamcume.htm?path=wbballOkay, we obviously need an overall efficiency rating calculated for all our players, something like this: EFF[edit] The NBA publishes online all the basic statistics recorded officially by the league. Individual player efficiency is expressed there by a stat referred to as 'efficiency' and abbreviated EFF. It is derived by a simple formula:
(PTS + REB + AST + STL + BLK − Missed FG − Missed FT − TO) / GP The formula was created by Kansas City sports reporter and statistician Martin Manley (1953–2013).[1]Or this: Calculating PER
The Player Efficiency Rating (PER) is a per-minute rating developed by ESPN.com columnist John Hollinger. In John's words, "The PER sums up all a player's positive accomplishments, subtracts the negative accomplishments, and returns a per-minute rating of a player's performance." It appears from his books that John's database only goes back to the 1988-89 season. I decided to expand on John's work and calculate PER for all players since minutes played were first recorded (1951-52).
All calculations begin with what I am calling unadjusted PER (uPER). The formula is:
uPER = (1 / MP) * [ 3P + (2/3) * AST + (2 - factor * (team_AST / team_FG)) * FG + (FT *0.5 * (1 + (1 - (team_AST / team_FG)) + (2/3) * (team_AST / team_FG))) - VOP * TOV - VOP * DRB% * (FGA - FG) - VOP * 0.44 * (0.44 + (0.56 * DRB%)) * (FTA - FT) + VOP * (1 - DRB%) * (TRB - ORB) + VOP * DRB% * ORB + VOP * STL + VOP * DRB% * BLK - PF * ((lg_FT / lg_PF) - 0.44 * (lg_FTA / lg_PF) * VOP) ] Most of the terms in the formula above should be clear, but let me define the less obvious ones:
factor = (2 / 3) - (0.5 * (lg_AST / lg_FG)) / (2 * (lg_FG / lg_FT)) VOP = lg_PTS / (lg_FGA - lg_ORB + lg_TOV + 0.44 * lg_FTA) DRB% = (lg_TRB - lg_ORB) / lg_TRBIf you're going to do this, do it right!
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Post by Werebeaver on Dec 3, 2017 13:38:36 GMT -8
I don't know about dribbling but as far as minutes played/turnovers she's doing better Pivec and Gulich: PLAYER | TO | MIN | MIN/TO | TUDOR | 3 | 183 | 61.0 | COROSDALE | 2 | 111 | 55.5 | MCWILLIAMS | 7 | 217 | 31.0 | WASHINGTON | 4 | 114 | 28.5 | GRYMEK | 4 | 79 | 19.8 | KALMER | 11 | 166 | 15.1 | GOODMAN | 9 | 91 | 10.1 | GULICH | 18 | 179 | 9.9 | PIVEC | 20 | 197 | 9.9 | THROPAY | 7 | 63 | 9.0 |
static.osubeavers.com/custompages/WBB/teamcume.htm?path=wbballOkay, we obviously need an overall efficiency rating calculated for all our players, something like this: EFF[edit] The NBA publishes online all the basic statistics recorded officially by the league. Individual player efficiency is expressed there by a stat referred to as 'efficiency' and abbreviated EFF. It is derived by a simple formula:
(PTS + REB + AST + STL + BLK − Missed FG − Missed FT − TO) / GP The formula was created by Kansas City sports reporter and statistician Martin Manley (1953–2013).[1]Or this: Calculating PER
The Player Efficiency Rating (PER) is a per-minute rating developed by ESPN.com columnist John Hollinger. In John's words, "The PER sums up all a player's positive accomplishments, subtracts the negative accomplishments, and returns a per-minute rating of a player's performance." It appears from his books that John's database only goes back to the 1988-89 season. I decided to expand on John's work and calculate PER for all players since minutes played were first recorded (1951-52).
All calculations begin with what I am calling unadjusted PER (uPER). The formula is:
uPER = (1 / MP) * [ 3P + (2/3) * AST + (2 - factor * (team_AST / team_FG)) * FG + (FT *0.5 * (1 + (1 - (team_AST / team_FG)) + (2/3) * (team_AST / team_FG))) - VOP * TOV - VOP * DRB% * (FGA - FG) - VOP * 0.44 * (0.44 + (0.56 * DRB%)) * (FTA - FT) + VOP * (1 - DRB%) * (TRB - ORB) + VOP * DRB% * ORB + VOP * STL + VOP * DRB% * BLK - PF * ((lg_FT / lg_PF) - 0.44 * (lg_FTA / lg_PF) * VOP) ] Most of the terms in the formula above should be clear, but let me define the less obvious ones:
factor = (2 / 3) - (0.5 * (lg_AST / lg_FG)) / (2 * (lg_FG / lg_FT)) VOP = lg_PTS / (lg_FGA - lg_ORB + lg_TOV + 0.44 * lg_FTA) DRB% = (lg_TRB - lg_ORB) / lg_TRBIf you're going to do this, do it right! Show me yours, I'll show you mine.
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Post by ricke71 on Dec 3, 2017 16:06:14 GMT -8
[/quote]She's a fairly (for college) poor dribbler (overall, still), so although her shooting could possibly have been a plus ... her ball handling would have definitely been a net liability (vs. Notre Lame). [/quote]
She did have a few problems dribbling yesterday vs very small quick guards. That being said, it doesn’t appear that will stiffle her progress toward becoming a good, even great, PAC12 player. She’s only about 4-5 games into a college career. In time her role as backup PG will likely evolve into a starting ‘2’ or a ‘3’ (Mikala is more than adequate this season as PG - in fact the Men’s BB team could probably use her...and for future roles, Destiny Slocum certainly has no problems dribbling). Goodman’s 3pt shooting from the wing is going so very well. Unconscious quick release bodes well. I predict 4 straight seasons for OSU teams, on which Aleah Goodman plays, making the Big Dance.
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Post by believeinthebeavs on Dec 3, 2017 17:58:41 GMT -8
I've liked what I've seen out of her so far. She is only a few games into what I'm sure will be a successful college career as a beaver. How were Syd's (or Gabby or Jaime or Ruth) stats at the same point in time? How much poise did they have in their first couple of games?
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Post by Henry Skrimshander on Dec 3, 2017 18:51:20 GMT -8
I was told there would be no math. The three scariest words in high school: Show all work.
As far as I was concerned, the train leaving from Chicago and the train leaving an hour later from Detroit could run into each other.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 3, 2017 18:51:36 GMT -8
Thickhead computes player efficiency as follows: (PTS + REB + AST + STL + BLK − Missed FG − Missed FT − TO) * 280 / MinutesPlayed Gulich,Marie...... 220.56 Pivec,Mikayla..... 218.88 Grymek,Joanna..... 191.39 Goodman,Aleah..... 181.54 Tudor,Kat......... 159.13 Washington,Madison 137.54 Corosdale,Taya.... 121.08 McWilliams,Katie.. 101.94 Kalmer,Taylor..... 96.14 Thropay,Janessa... 71.11 Official Stats
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Post by beaveragain on Dec 3, 2017 22:07:42 GMT -8
So based on player efficiency KtMac and Taylor should be taken out of the player rotation. Quick, someone tell the coach.
I think Aleahs problem is that she is still used to playing high school kiddies she could blow by. She can't ignore the player she passed because they will catch up. And she can't passively dribble in front of a college player and not get the ball taken away. These are lessons I think she will learn quickly and can only learn by playing. Although having Destiny sicced on her in practice should teach that lesson also. She's not the fast kid any more and needs to protect the ball.
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Post by beavershoopsfan on Dec 4, 2017 11:09:00 GMT -8
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