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Post by drunkandstoopidbeav on Nov 25, 2017 20:27:18 GMT -8
Right now, if Tedford wants to leave FSU he would get a job at a more desirable P5 school than OSU in no time. If he's at FSU next year he wasn't looking. He was interested 3 years ago, but frankly his turnaround job at FSU has raised his value.
If Frost or Norvell are coaching at a G5 school other than where they are already at, then we blew an opportunity. Otherwise, OSU is probably arguably one of the 2 worst P5 jobs available right now. My guess is they're going elsewhere if they decide to go anywhere.
In my mind Brohm has little to no better resume than Baldwin. Largely a career QB coach, one year as an OC for a team that went 3 and 9. He did have some good seasons, you could say Baldwinesque, for all of 3 years at WKU. He's now at Purdue, why would he come here?
Long? He's 68 year old, probably has a few good years in him but I could see why OSU would want someone younger. Of the names you pitched, he's the only one I see coming here.
Harsin I'm just not sure about that guy.
Several of the guys you mentioned haven't run a program for 10 years. Tedford, Long and Baldwin have, I give that a lot of credit.
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Post by gnawitall on Nov 25, 2017 23:04:55 GMT -8
8 minutes in and they have 10 points. Are we going to give up 60+? Nice call Nostril domas. I didn't believe we'd cover the spread but didn't see this coming.
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Post by gnawitall on Nov 25, 2017 23:09:45 GMT -8
That was a hell of a throw. I was there and it was a nice throw but at third and eighteen it was like the receiver was wearing a red practice vest. Ugh
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Post by gnawitall on Nov 25, 2017 23:16:59 GMT -8
Does UO stop at 90 or do they got for a 100 today? I say go for the century mark. I was there. They could have dropped 200 if they had wanted to.
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Post by gnawitall on Nov 25, 2017 23:18:16 GMT -8
Arguably the toughest day in Beaver football history. Is there a mercy rule? There's the high school mercy clock rule where they just let it run. I was hoping for that.
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Post by gnawitall on Nov 25, 2017 23:36:24 GMT -8
Awful DAY to be s Beaver. Awful. Gals lost to Duke, the men's hoop team isn't a team at all, winningest coach in program history and good man MR gets the axe, and now this absolute abortion. Low, low, low. “a good man” This is why I am done. I am an OSU graduate. My wife is a Duck. I am becoming a Duck. No head coach is “a good man” to the extent you expect and hope for, at this level. It’s arbitrary. I’m switching my loyalty to the team that is vastly better in every way. Mortality is murky in every program in the FBS. I pride myself on how I have done in my career. Oregon State Football is the antithesis of this. Time to wrap it up kiddos, we are done. Go Ducks. That was hard, but healing. True fans root for their team because, well, that's their team. Apparently your self-esteem or identity is tied to whether the team you root for is good or bad. Good riddance, and by the way, what a tool!
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Post by gnawitall on Nov 25, 2017 23:44:52 GMT -8
I may take Monday off from work. With the current state of both football and men's basketball they are sure to give me the "little brother" comments. Sure I could try to have a come back comment, but it would be so weak it would not be worth uttering. Sadly for once they are right.... "Well I slept with your wife!" That one gets mixed results however. George Costanza!!!
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Post by gobeavs92 on Nov 26, 2017 0:04:25 GMT -8
I have as much proof as anyone else on here about their reasoning of would or wouldn't want to be here or would/could do well here, besides Tedford actually saying he wanted this job! The thing is, in coaching, it is a revolving door business! Most of these guys are extremely competitive and the only way to really make a name for yourself is to build up a program. Coaches will come and go from any program eventually but any power 5 team, has got to be an intriguing offer for a true competitor. That list of guys are all competitors and at non P5 schools (besides Brohm now). I can't imagine any of them not at least being interested if at least, offered an interview! Go Beavs! Tedford was interested when he didn't have a job. Frost will get to pick between Florida and Nebraska Norvell will get a P5 job next year at the latest. Brohm has a better P5 job now. So is it your position that OSU has chosen to simply ignore all these guys? Or do you believe OSU talked to them and chose Baldwin instead? And in either case, why do you believe OSU made such a decision (if they did)? I disagree that Tedford just wanted this job just because he was unemployed at the time. My opinion is that he wanted to be at a school he knew he could succeed but also a school that is in an area he and his family liked (Pacific NW). That is my take. I think he settled for the Fresno job just to show he is was capable still. I think he is still looking to move on from there and Oregon St seems like a viable spot for him to still land, to me. The other 3 are all speculative either way. You speak on the other 3 as if you know their intentions?! Why is that? It is my position, that from the articles I have been reading, that the pool of candidates is pretty much unproven PAC 12 HC experience/ P 5 guys, to cover their own arses! if they do great, then the hiring committee looks genius! If they suck, it's "well, they had no real experience"! Basically shift the blame to the inexperience! Lame!! So I think that more than likely, Oregon State did not even try to talk to many, if any, candidates who actually have FBS/P5/PAC 12 exp.! Go Beavs!
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Post by gobeavs92 on Nov 26, 2017 0:14:07 GMT -8
Right now, if Tedford wants to leave FSU he would get a job at a more desirable P5 school than OSU in no time. If he's at FSU next year he wasn't looking. He was interested 3 years ago, but frankly his turnaround job at FSU has raised his value. If Frost or Norvell are coaching at a G5 school other than where they are already at, then we blew an opportunity. Otherwise, OSU is probably arguably one of the 2 worst P5 jobs available right now. My guess is they're going elsewhere if they decide to go anywhere. In my mind Brohm has little to no better resume than Baldwin. Largely a career QB coach, one year as an OC for a team that went 3 and 9. He did have some good seasons, you could say Baldwinesque, for all of 3 years at WKU. He's now at Purdue, why would he come here? Long? He's 68 year old, probably has a few good years in him but I could see why OSU would want someone younger. Of the names you pitched, he's the only one I see coming here. Harsin I'm just not sure about that guy. Several of the guys you mentioned haven't run a program for 10 years. Tedford, Long and Baldwin have, I give that a lot of credit. You think a guy with no FBS HC experience at all (Baldwin) equates to a guy that has 9 years of FBS experience and 3 as a HC while doing a quality job (Brohm), is the same? WTF?! So you're saying you know for a fact that Tedford only wanted to come to Oregon State originally because no ther P5 job was available? You know this how? You're not sure about Harsin, therefore he's a no-go? Right now, this just sounds like you're saying, "my opinions are better than yours". LOL Go Beavs!
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Post by Deleted on Nov 26, 2017 0:25:07 GMT -8
Tedford was interested when he didn't have a job. Frost will get to pick between Florida and Nebraska Norvell will get a P5 job next year at the latest. Brohm has a better P5 job now. So is it your position that OSU has chosen to simply ignore all these guys? Or do you believe OSU talked to them and chose Baldwin instead? And in either case, why do you believe OSU made such a decision (if they did)? I disagree that Tedford just wanted this job just because he was unemployed at the time. My opinion is that he wanted to be at a school he knew he could succeed but also a school that is in an area he and his family liked (Pacific NW). That is my take. I think he settled for the Fresno job just to show he is was capable still. I think he is still looking to move on from there and Oregon St seems like a viable spot for him to still land, to me. The other 3 are all speculative either way. You speak on the other 3 as if you know their intentions?! Why is that? It is my position, that from the articles I have been reading, that the pool of candidates is pretty much unproven PAC 12 HC experience/ P 5 guys, to cover their own arses! if they do great, then the hiring committee looks genius! If they suck, it's "well, they had no real experience"! Basically shift the blame to the inexperience! Lame!! So I think that more than likely, Oregon State did not even try to talk to many, if any, candidates who actually have FBS/P5/PAC 12 exp.! Go Beavs! Frost wasn't interested when he wasn't a HC. I don't know Norvell or Brohm's intentions, I am looking at it through a combination of things we've heard (or haven't heard in this case) and the thought process I'd likely have in their shoes. And both indicate that neither would want the OSU job. As for Tedford, I've heard no rumors of his interest. I think he is likely happy at his alma mater and will be there for the foreseeable future. You choose to believe OSU chose to ignore candidates with experience (without direct evidence), I choose to believe those candidates had no interest in OSU (also without direct evidence). Its up to others to decide which sounds more plausible.
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Post by fridaynightlights on Nov 26, 2017 1:06:01 GMT -8
I know that Tedford and his wife are from Southern California and she is not fond of the climate in the NW and was happy when he got the head job at Cal. I think they are happy in living in California.
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