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Post by beavadelic on Nov 13, 2017 23:17:48 GMT -8
With a third of the SEC potentially on the coaching search circuit, and possibly 3 or 4 PAC 12 programs, there could be a lot of options for the hot names out there. I love OSU, but I don’t think we’re competing in the same sandbox as Florida, and my guess is that it would take a rare candidate to turn down Tennessee, Texas A&M, Nebraska, UCLA or Ole Miss to come to Corvallis if he has options.
I hear a lot of names mentioned that will likely be pursued by the name schools that I’ve referred to, but I suspect that our next coach will be a west coast connected guy who is a bit of a risk and isn’t very well-known nationally. I’m not sure if that is going to be Baldwin, or Niner (I’m nervous about that possibility...just because you’ve worked around strong mentors doesn’t’ automatically mean you’ll inherit their coaching ability, and the Huskies O is underwhelming these days), or Grinch, or even someone I’ve never heard of. I just have a feeling that it will be a young upstart, or a “retread” with ties out here. The other thing that I’ve heard a lot of talk about is the possibility of one of the service academy guys coming here.
I don’t have any idea who we’re going to get for our next coach, but please let it be someone with a good offensive mind and energy, and please don’t let it be anyone who extols the virtues of triple option football.
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Post by RenoBeaver on Nov 14, 2017 9:50:00 GMT -8
Let me read that again, it looks like there are going to be a bunch of P5 openings.
Washington State - No Washington - No Oregon - No Cal - No Colorado - No Utah - No Stanford - No USC - No UCLA - Probably, let's see how they finish AZ - Absolutely no ASU - Doubtful, but maybe if they flop down the stretch. Beating Top 10 Washington (at the times) carries some clout.
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Post by obf on Nov 14, 2017 10:43:20 GMT -8
Let me read that again, it looks like there are going to be a bunch of P5 openings. Washington State - No Washington - No Oregon - No Cal - No Colorado - No Utah - No Stanford - No USC - No UCLA - Probably, let's see how they finish AZ - Absolutely no ASU - Doubtful, but maybe if they flop down the stretch. Beating Top 10 Washington (at the times) carries some clout. P5, not Pac-12... Here are the likely open P5 HC positions at the end of the year: Nebraska Arkansas Texas Tech UCLA Tennessee Kansas Texas A&M Florida BYU Illinois Auburn (Maybe not with their big upset of Georgia) Ole Miss Arizona State (maybe, fans have wanted The Graham Cracker out for a while, but the UW upset may have saved him) And of course Oregon State These G5 schools will likely be looking for new head Coaches: Georgia Southern UTEP Bowling Green Charlotte East Carolina Kent State Louisiana-Lafayette Miami (Ohio) New Mexico Rice South Alabama Just me making educated guesses and looking here and here
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Post by obf on Nov 14, 2017 10:45:29 GMT -8
Out of those 14 P5 school I listed above, I would put OSU in 10th or 11th place in terms of pulling power for their new coach.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 14, 2017 11:10:01 GMT -8
Out of those 14 P5 school I listed above, I would put OSU in 10th or 11th place in terms of pulling power for their new coach. Really? I'd say 13th. Kansas is about the only job on that list I'd put below OSU. Maybe you could argue Ole Miss with the sanctions coming their way but I'm still not so sure.
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Post by drunkandstoopidbeav on Nov 14, 2017 11:10:58 GMT -8
Out of those 14 P5 school I listed above, I would put OSU in 10th or 11th place in terms of pulling power for their new coach. I'd probably put them at 12th, and one of them only because of sanctions. edt: youngorst beat me to it.
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Post by obf on Nov 14, 2017 11:14:20 GMT -8
Ok... 11th, 12th, 13th... point is there is a pile of job openings and we are at the bottom of the pile... So we may need to adjust our expectations of who is coming here...
I still want Tedford with Baldwin as OC... We shall see soon enough. Just don't be surprised when we are working on Option E, F, or G :/
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Post by seastape on Nov 14, 2017 11:21:31 GMT -8
This is why I fear that we will not have a pick of the cream of the crop...we are in serious competition with other schools and may not have the $$$ to get our first choices. We'll see.
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Post by hawksea on Nov 14, 2017 11:24:44 GMT -8
Out of those 14 P5 school I listed above, I would put OSU in 10th or 11th place in terms of pulling power for their new coach. Really? I'd say 13th. Kansas is about the only job on that list I'd put below OSU. Maybe you could argue Ole Miss with the sanctions coming their way but I'm still not so sure. You would put BYU above OSU? I would put OSU above them and maybe Illinois. BYU also only has a small pool of coaches that they can go after. I would put OSU above Kansas, maybe Ole Miss, BYU, and about even with Illinois.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 14, 2017 11:31:54 GMT -8
Really? I'd say 13th. Kansas is about the only job on that list I'd put below OSU. Maybe you could argue Ole Miss with the sanctions coming their way but I'm still not so sure. You would put BYU above OSU? I would put OSU above them and maybe Illinois. BYU also only has a small pool of coaches that they can go after. I would put OSU above Kansas, maybe Ole Miss, BYU, and about even with Illinois. BYU is a national school so yes I would put that school at or above OSU (that said BYU isn't really a G5 school which might put OSU above it just due to that). I'd definitely put Illinios above OSU, Lovie Smith makes 4 million dollars, that alone tells me (if I were a coaching candidate) they are willing to put more resources into the program for me than OSU.
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Post by kersting13 on Nov 14, 2017 11:32:48 GMT -8
Really? I'd say 13th. Kansas is about the only job on that list I'd put below OSU. Maybe you could argue Ole Miss with the sanctions coming their way but I'm still not so sure. You would put BYU above OSU? I would put OSU above them and maybe Illinois. BYU also only has a small pool of coaches that they can go after. I would put OSU above Kansas, maybe Ole Miss, BYU, and about even with Illinois. BYU shouldn't be in a list of P5 schools anyhow, should they? They've never belonged to a major conference, and currently are not in any conference.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 14, 2017 11:36:35 GMT -8
You would put BYU above OSU? I would put OSU above them and maybe Illinois. BYU also only has a small pool of coaches that they can go after. I would put OSU above Kansas, maybe Ole Miss, BYU, and about even with Illinois. BYU shouldn't be in a list of P5 schools anyhow, should they? They've never belonged to a major conference, and currently are not in any conference. Wait, who said Sitake is getting dumped? He's only been there 2 years.
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Post by hawksea on Nov 14, 2017 11:44:05 GMT -8
You would put BYU above OSU? I would put OSU above them and maybe Illinois. BYU also only has a small pool of coaches that they can go after. I would put OSU above Kansas, maybe Ole Miss, BYU, and about even with Illinois. BYU shouldn't be in a list of P5 schools anyhow, should they? They've never belonged to a major conference, and currently are not in any conference. I would agree with that. I would consider them between P5 and G5 because they do play a mix of schools from both. But if I was a coach and not a Mormon, then there is no way I would consider BYU (which they wouldn't consider those coaches also) which is why I would put OSU above BYU for job rankings. A Mormon coach would take BYU over OSU easily though.
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Post by RenoBeaver on Nov 14, 2017 11:55:43 GMT -8
Let me read that again, it looks like there are going to be a bunch of P5 openings. Washington State - No Washington - No Oregon - No Cal - No Colorado - No Utah - No Stanford - No USC - No UCLA - Probably, let's see how they finish AZ - Absolutely no ASU - Doubtful, but maybe if they flop down the stretch. Beating Top 10 Washington (at the times) carries some clout. P5, not Pac-12... Here are the likely open P5 HC positions at the end of the year: Nebraska Arkansas Texas Tech UCLA Tennessee Kansas Texas A&M Florida BYU Illinois Auburn (Maybe not with their big upset of Georgia) Ole Miss Arizona State (maybe, fans have wanted The Graham Cracker out for a while, but the UW upset may have saved him) And of course Oregon State These G5 schools will likely be looking for new head Coaches: Georgia Southern UTEP Bowling Green Charlotte East Carolina Kent State Louisiana-Lafayette Miami (Ohio) New Mexico Rice South Alabama Just me making educated guesses and looking here and hereThanks, retract my post.
West Coast is Best Coast bitches! Come to OSU and enjoy cheap housing, pretty landscape, and beer.
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Post by beavdowg on Nov 14, 2017 12:03:33 GMT -8
Ok... 11th, 12th, 13th... point is there is a pile of job openings and we are at the bottom of the pile... So we may need to adjust our expectations of who is coming here... I still want Tedford with Baldwin as OC... We shall see soon enough. Just don't be surprised when we are working on Option E, F, or G :/ I can't imagine a scenario in which Baldwin would take a lateral move to become the OC at OSU. He's at a higher profile school as it is. What would be in it for him to take the same position at OSU? Now, I can see him taking our HC position but that's a different discussion.
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