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Post by Werebeaver on Mar 19, 2017 19:27:34 GMT -8
OSU bigs have a big hole in their game. They get the ball deep and rarely go straight up with it. They seem to love to take the candy dribble. Putting the ball down and on the floor to boot is asking for trouble. I hear Ralph yelling. Hope it didn't ruin the win for you. |
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Post by greshambeaver on Mar 19, 2017 19:47:43 GMT -8
Ralph's teams were good offensively when they had the quicks, but Scott's program rebounds much better than a Miller team!
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Post by baseba1111 on Mar 19, 2017 20:14:58 GMT -8
Ralph's teams were good offensively when they had the quicks, but Scott's program rebounds much better than a Miller team! Ralph's good teams did not need to rebound as well, they shot 50%+ for the season... '80-81 was like 56.4%... that's incredible and still out rebounded opponents. |
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Post by 2ndGenBeaver on Mar 19, 2017 20:19:39 GMT -8
Good post game interview with Sydney here: www.espn.com/ncw/recap?gameId=400947213On dancing while waiting for the refs, on kissing the floor, on the memories and the crowd. In the words of a Hall-of-Famer coach: a once in a lifetime kind of player. Time to load up the cars, load up the trucks, and head to Stockton.... Go Beavs! |
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Post by obf on Mar 19, 2017 20:23:46 GMT -8
Way to go Beavs! Beat FSU!
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Post by beaver94 on Mar 19, 2017 20:32:28 GMT -8
Ralph's teams were good offensively when they had the quicks, but Scott's program rebounds much better than a Miller team! Ralph's good teams did not need to rebound as well, they shot 50%+ for the season... '80-81 was like 56.4%... that's incredible and still out rebounded opponents. Wouldn't shooting a great percentage like that make it easier to out rebound opponents? |
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Post by baseba1111 on Mar 19, 2017 20:39:56 GMT -8
Ralph's good teams did not need to rebound as well, they shot 50%+ for the season... '80-81 was like 56.4%... that's incredible and still out rebounded opponents. Wouldn't shooting a great percentage like that make it easier to out rebound opponents? Not... more makes leads to less opportunity for offensive boards. Leaves only to dominate on the D boards. SRs teams of late hold opponents low 30% shooting... lots of opportunities and he's had more size advantage in the women's game vs Ralph in the men's game. |
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Post by Werebeaver on Mar 20, 2017 8:36:37 GMT -8
OSU bigs have a big hole in their game. They get the ball deep and rarely go straight up with it. They seem to love to take the candy dribble. Putting the ball down and on the floor to boot is asking for trouble. I hear Ralph yelling. Assume you're referring to Kolbie and Breanna because Marie almost never takes the ball down when in deep. |
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Post by bennyskid on Mar 20, 2017 13:31:01 GMT -8
OSU bigs have a big hole in their game. They get the ball deep and rarely go straight up with it. They seem to love to take the candy dribble. Putting the ball down and on the floor to boot is asking for trouble. I hear Ralph yelling. Assume you're referring to Kolbie and Breanna because Marie almost never takes the ball down when in deep. It's "confirmation bias". He believes it is true, and therefore notices every time his belief is confirmed and ignores the many more situations in which it is contradicted. All three of our bigs go straight up with it when they get the ball in the right place. Marie goes up with it regardless - being 6'5" has its advantages - or kicks it back out. Bre and Kolbie will dribble to a better place if they are caught too low - which is not a "candy dribble" - it's called "making a play on the basket". All three girls had to learn how to do this over the course of their careers, and they do it pretty well. |
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Post by baseba1111 on Mar 20, 2017 14:15:11 GMT -8
Assume you're referring to Kolbie and Breanna because Marie almost never takes the ball down when in deep. It's "confirmation bias". He believes it is true, and therefore notices every time his belief is confirmed and ignores the many more situations in which it is contradicted. All three of our bigs go straight up with it when they get the ball in the right place. Marie goes up with it regardless - being 6'5" has its advantages - or kicks it back out. Bre and Kolbie will dribble to a better place if they are caught too low - which is not a "candy dribble" - it's called "making a play on the basket". All three girls had to learn how to do this over the course of their careers, and they do it pretty well. LMAO... "confirmation bias"... learn a new phrase? I'm not sure the exact nature if the initial post. But,our bigs often... very often use the dribble. More than 50% of the time they receive the ball deep they have a defender on their back. Each of our posts have "go to" moves, all involve dribble(s) and footwork. Our passing over the top has been very suspect at times, but when completed our bigs do go up (or over pass). So unless we're talking offensive boards and lowering the ball/not staying high... which we do at times... both circumstances happen every game. So, really there is no preconceived belief to be confirmed as I'm fairly certain whatever games he watched he saw bigs dribble in deep. |
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Post by beaver94 on Mar 20, 2017 16:07:22 GMT -8
Wouldn't shooting a great percentage like that make it easier to out rebound opponents? Not... more makes leads to less opportunity for offensive boards. Leaves only to dominate on the D boards. SRs teams of late hold opponents low 30% shooting... lots of opportunities and he's had more size advantage in the women's game vs Ralph in the men's game. Ok, but your comparing one teams offensive percentage to the other teams defensive percentage. Less opportunity for offensive boards also creates less opportunity for defensive boards for the other team. The same opportunity that the women's team has by creating so many misses is the same one that the men's team took away from their opponents by shooting such a high percentage. |
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Post by sagebrush on Mar 20, 2017 19:30:18 GMT -8
By the "candy dribble" I mean the ball hitting the floor once, in place, then going up. Dose anyone really want to argue that this is not good? Yeah, put it down where it can be got and give time for D to collapse which results in double, triple, and cuts down passing lanes. Catch it. Keep it high. And go up. Hard. If you eat it, oh well. Odds are, you get fouled or are successful.
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