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Post by flyfishinbeav on Oct 2, 2024 11:45:38 GMT -8
I would highly doubt we'd take JUST Memphis. The travel for Memphis would be brutal. My guess is Memphis, Tulane, and Texas St. Although I don't know how you get an Eastern pod out of that. You dump UTSA to save buyout money, go with the lesser cost TXST and then increase the buyout support to Memphis. Although after suffering the last couple of days reading Memphis message boards, ugh...I don't know about adding their fans. They also need to either show they can roll the dice with the rest of us or go sit it out on the sidelines. They want to have this be a zero-risk effort on their part, with everyone else doing the heavy lifting. So what's up with Memphis fans? Think they are too good for us? |
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Post by treasurevalleybeav on Oct 2, 2024 12:13:39 GMT -8
When I was a kid and learning all the teams, they were Memphis State. They would have to go back and claim the "state." Keith Lee in Basketball. I think they also had Dinner Bell MEL (TURPIN) iirc |
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Post by atownbeaver on Oct 2, 2024 12:22:22 GMT -8
I would highly doubt we'd take JUST Memphis. The travel for Memphis would be brutal. My guess is Memphis, Tulane, and Texas St. Although I don't know how you get an Eastern pod out of that. You dump UTSA to save buyout money, go with the lesser cost TXST and then increase the buyout support to Memphis. Although after suffering the last couple of days reading Memphis message boards, ugh...I don't know about adding their fans. They also need to either show they can roll the dice with the rest of us or go sit it out on the sidelines. They want to have this be a zero-risk effort on their part, with everyone else doing the heavy lifting. So what's up with Memphis fans? Think they are too good for us? depends on the board I think. On reddit most fans I've seen are pretty livid their AD passed originally. They know the AAC stinks and their only path to relevance is in a better conference which the Pac-12 is. Of course there are also many that agree the travel sucks and being way out east isn't good and maybe it is best to just wait and see what happens in 2030... but everything collapsing in 2030 isn't guaranteed, nor is it guaranteed Memphis is in any club if and when it does. So, yeah. |
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Post by darthbeavs on Oct 2, 2024 14:22:06 GMT -8
I still prefer Texas State or even New Mexico to Memphis, stay as western as possible... Of course I totally under stand if the TV execs say 20 mil per team with Memphis vs 15 mil per team with Texas State.... I add.... BOTH  Both of these schools move the dial very minimally. Seems to me they wouldn't be much of an upgrade over promoting an FCS school (which is by far the worst idea so far). If you're looking for a smaller school that could add value to the conference, Grand Canyon University made the tournament in basketball (and have made HUGE investments in basketball the last few years) while also fielding a very competitive baseball program. They are not the football school the conference needs, but they wouldn't have to be full members and move the dial on basketball/baseball. There are big $'s paid out for basketball tournament appearances, and GCU will bring that to the table. Still gotta find at least one more football school, though. Again, however, what do I know? |
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Post by Werebeaver on Oct 2, 2024 14:29:03 GMT -8
Help me information, give me Memphis, Tennessee.  |
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Post by 86BEAVER on Oct 2, 2024 14:50:26 GMT -8
I think they also had Dinner Bell MEL (TURPIN) iirc |
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Post by 86BEAVER on Oct 2, 2024 14:51:08 GMT -8
I think they also had Dinner Bell MEL (TURPIN) iirc Burpin' Turpin went to Kentucky. |
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Post by 93beav on Oct 2, 2024 14:51:34 GMT -8
I would highly doubt we'd take JUST Memphis. The travel for Memphis would be brutal. My guess is Memphis, Tulane, and Texas St. Although I don't know how you get an Eastern pod out of that. You dump UTSA to save buyout money, go with the lesser cost TXST and then increase the buyout support to Memphis. Although after suffering the last couple of days reading Memphis message boards, ugh...I don't know about adding their fans. They also need to either show they can roll the dice with the rest of us or go sit it out on the sidelines. They want to have this be a zero-risk effort on their part, with everyone else doing the heavy lifting. So what's up with Memphis fans? Think they are too good for us? 60% of them are excited, but nervous 40% of them believe it will never work, irrationally hate OSU/WSU, and if the Pac-12 doesn't pay the whole exit fee and guarantee a media payout number (so paying more if we don't hit it) and paying extra for travel and allowing them to leave whenever they get their ACC invite then it won't work, and are nervous 100% of them are depressed/depressing About 5% of them have latched on to the stupid ass Liberty theory that was discussed here, where it's okay if their conference plays Our Lady of the Worthless Miracle every week, because they'll run the conference and get the G5 or at-large bid every year. There's also a very small contingent who are just adamant that this is all a play by OSU to become a power conference player and that all the experts are right that we should just sit down and be quiet and don't understand the hate for UO/UW related to the Pac-12 dissolution. They just have little information about the Pac and a lot of what they have is wrong. I've seen a couple of message boards post a link to Oram's article from the Oregonian (the one where he essentially says the Pac-12 acquisitions have failed, the Pac-12 should burn forever, long live the schmucks) and say "See! There is no way we should be associating with them!" |
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Post by wilkyisdashiznit on Oct 2, 2024 22:35:22 GMT -8
When I was a kid and learning all the teams, they were Memphis State. They would have to go back and claim the "state." Memphis State became the University of Memphis in 1994. It was basically a marketing gimmick to try and make the school seem better-endowed and better academically. |
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Post by wilkyisdashiznit on Oct 2, 2024 22:37:19 GMT -8
I would highly doubt we'd take JUST Memphis. The travel for Memphis would be brutal. My guess is Memphis, Tulane, and Texas St. Although I don't know how you get an Eastern pod out of that. You dump UTSA to save buyout money, go with the lesser cost TXST and then increase the buyout support to Memphis. Although after suffering the last couple of days reading Memphis message boards, ugh...I don't know about adding their fans. They also need to either show they can roll the dice with the rest of us or go sit it out on the sidelines. They want to have this be a zero-risk effort on their part, with everyone else doing the heavy lifting. So what's up with Memphis fans? Think they are too good for us? I think that Memphis is worried about travel. They also believe that they are the ACC's first choice, if things start to go sideways there. I have heard that there may be a ticking clock on the ACC negotiations, where Clemson and Florida State have to decide to take what they can get or to push forward with litigation. We'll see how that goes. If the ACC announces something concrete about sticking together, maybe Memphis is more inclined to join the Pac-12. |
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Post by flyfishinbeav on Oct 3, 2024 6:39:21 GMT -8
So what's up with Memphis fans? Think they are too good for us? 60% of them are excited, but nervous 40% of them believe it will never work, irrationally hate OSU/WSU, and if the Pac-12 doesn't pay the whole exit fee and guarantee a media payout number (so paying more if we don't hit it) and paying extra for travel and allowing them to leave whenever they get their ACC invite then it won't work, and are nervous 100% of them are depressed/depressing About 5% of them have latched on to the stupid ass Liberty theory that was discussed here, where it's okay if their conference plays Our Lady of the Worthless Miracle every week, because they'll run the conference and get the G5 or at-large bid every year. There's also a very small contingent who are just adamant that this is all a play by OSU to become a power conference player and that all the experts are right that we should just sit down and be quiet and don't understand the hate for UO/UW related to the Pac-12 dissolution. They just have little information about the Pac and a lot of what they have is wrong. I've seen a couple of message boards post a link to Oram's article from the Oregonian (the one where he essentially says the Pac-12 acquisitions have failed, the Pac-12 should burn forever, long live the schmucks) and say "See! There is no way we should be associating with them!" The above is exactly why college sports should be regional. Lots of stereotypes, and assumptions when you are not familiar with things going on across the country. Also, another reason to hate the quacks even more. |
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Post by 93beav on Oct 3, 2024 7:15:50 GMT -8
When I was a kid and learning all the teams, they were Memphis State. They would have to go back and claim the "state." Memphis State became the University of Memphis in 1994. It was basically a marketing gimmick to try and make the school seem better-endowed and better academically. I tried that renaming gimmick in college but the girls weren't impressed. |
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Post by ochobeavo on Oct 3, 2024 7:34:01 GMT -8
I would highly doubt we'd take JUST Memphis. The travel for Memphis would be brutal. My guess is Memphis, Tulane, and Texas St. Although I don't know how you get an Eastern pod out of that. You dump UTSA to save buyout money, go with the lesser cost TXST and then increase the buyout support to Memphis. Although after suffering the last couple of days reading Memphis message boards, ugh...I don't know about adding their fans. They also need to either show they can roll the dice with the rest of us or go sit it out on the sidelines. They want to have this be a zero-risk effort on their part, with everyone else doing the heavy lifting. So what's up with Memphis fans? Think they are too good for us? You should see some of the Beaver fans on social media. Woof. |
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Post by flyfishinbeav on Oct 3, 2024 7:44:05 GMT -8
So what's up with Memphis fans? Think they are too good for us? You should see some of the Beaver fans on social media. Woof. I belong to several Beav groups on FB, which is the only social media platform I belong to of that kind........I am simply amazed with some the stuff I see whenever I peruse those pages. For example, someone posted a list of schools that "might be available" for us to add from Texas. They included TCU, SMU, and Houston.... 🙄 |
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Post by beavfan14 on Oct 3, 2024 8:37:18 GMT -8
I'm not advocating for Memphis over Texas State or vice versa, but I don't understand the Memphis is too far away argument, so we should take TSU or even one of the New Mexico teams? Flight time from Eugene is like 10 min longer to Memphis then Austin would be. Maybe San Antonio would be faster to TSU, I'm not sure, but it's not like its an ACC all east coast league like it is for CALFORD or SMU. I would rather have a bit of a longer trip, then settle for a lesser team, because they are an hour or so closer to the west coast. As long as it is not the BIG10 or ACC where the vast majority of the teams are east coast time zone or close to it. We need the best schools available, someone who moves the needle the most, not UTEP or NMSU or whomever, because they're closer. DON'T SETTLE just for an extra hour of flying.
And yes, I am still more interested in the well being of the student athletes. I understand, that is the most important aspect, especially for the olympic sports that travel the most. That is why I would not have wanted to join the BIG10 or ACC, but an extra hour of flying to Memphis, instead of Albuquerque just doesn't mean that much. I would admit that Memphis is about as far as they should go though, IMO. And I personally would have hated any Florida school, that is too far.
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