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Post by atownbeaver on Sept 23, 2024 18:54:56 GMT -8
Someone explain to my why Utah State is favored over Nevada-Reno. Logan is effectively SLC lite... Men's Bball is good. and the University itself is an R1 research institution that is well above Boise State and Fresno State and quite frankly SDSU and CSU as well. They are much more truly OSU's academic peer. They are not bad, they are second fiddle to Utah for sure, but it is not the worse. I will feel a lot better to wake up to confirmation of UNLV though. |
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Post by Judge Smails on Sept 23, 2024 18:57:18 GMT -8
Someone explain to my why Utah State is favored over Nevada-Reno. Logan is effectively SLC lite... Men's Bball is good. and the University itself is an R1 research institution that is well above Boise State and Fresno State and quite frankly SDSU and CSU as well. They are much more truly OSU's academic peer. They are not bad, they are second fiddle to Utah for sure, but it is not the worse. I will feel a lot better to wake up to confirmation of UNLV though. They are 3rd fiddle in Utah, behind the utes and byu |
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Post by Henry Skrimshander on Sept 23, 2024 19:07:07 GMT -8
Logan is effectively SLC lite... Men's Bball is good. and the University itself is an R1 research institution that is well above Boise State and Fresno State and quite frankly SDSU and CSU as well. They are much more truly OSU's academic peer. They are not bad, they are second fiddle to Utah for sure, but it is not the worse. I will feel a lot better to wake up to confirmation of UNLV though. They are 3rd fiddle in Utah, behind the utes and byu But that's five or six fiddles higher than UTSA and Texas State are in their state. |
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Post by ftd on Sept 23, 2024 19:09:15 GMT -8
I'm going to go with men's basketball. Investment in the total athletic program. USU has spent millions on facility improvements and program support in the past decade, a process started by Barnes when he was the AD there. And a much-larger TV market. Nevada's football stadium would embarrass any number of Texas high schools. I remember going to a Beaver game there...what..20 years ago? It may be a POS now but back then? It was a MAJOR POS...like playing on asphalt... |
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Post by Judge Smails on Sept 23, 2024 19:25:51 GMT -8
Investment in the total athletic program. USU has spent millions on facility improvements and program support in the past decade, a process started by Barnes when he was the AD there. And a much-larger TV market. Nevada's football stadium would embarrass any number of Texas high schools. I remember going to a Beaver game there...what..20 years ago? It may be a POS now but back then? It was a MAJOR POS...like playing on asphalt... I was at that game also. They painted the dirt green, because the grass had died on parts of the field. |
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Post by ftd on Sept 23, 2024 19:30:28 GMT -8
I remember going to a Beaver game there...what..20 years ago? It may be a POS now but back then? It was a MAJOR POS...like playing on asphalt... I was at that game also. They painted the dirt green, because the grass had died on parts of the field. When the game was close I remember one loud-ass Nevada fan...Finally shut up once the outcome was apparent. |
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Post by ftd on Sept 23, 2024 19:32:58 GMT -8
If we can get UNLV and Gonzaga I am very happy. Solid schools all in the west. No long travel and a decent recruiting benefit especially for non-football sports.
Prospective S/A: I really want to play college sports and get an education to boot
Mom and Dad: Glad you are making education as important as your sport
Prospective S/A: Yeah the travel at schools x,y,and z will make it hard to study
Mom and Dad: Well OSU is in the Pac12 which is in the Pacific and Mountain time zones, so there won't be any long trips
Prospective S/A: Yeah Sign me up!
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Post by speakthetruth on Sept 23, 2024 19:35:52 GMT -8
They are 3rd fiddle in Utah, behind the utes and byu But that's five or six fiddles higher than UTSA and Texas State are in their state. Utah has a population of 3.5 mil, Texas 31 mil. Probably more high school football players in Dallas then all of utah. |
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Post by Judge Smails on Sept 23, 2024 19:37:07 GMT -8
If we can get UNLV and Gonzaga I am very happy. Solid schools all in the west. No long travel and a decent recruiting benefit especially for non-football sports. Not for baseball. That’d only be 6 teams. |
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Post by joecool on Sept 23, 2024 19:41:10 GMT -8
If we can get UNLV and Gonzaga I am very happy. Solid schools all in the west. No long travel and a decent recruiting benefit especially for non-football sports. Not for baseball. That’d only be 6 teams. They only need 6 for baseball... |
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Post by Judge Smails on Sept 23, 2024 19:42:56 GMT -8
Not for baseball. That’d only be 6 teams. Maybe they only need 6 for baseball... Yep, but I was referring more to the strength of the conference for recruiting. |
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Post by Henry Skrimshander on Sept 23, 2024 19:47:22 GMT -8
This would be possible because the Pac-12 already has an auto bid, keeping the at-large invitees at the same number (after a two-year, one-team increase in 2025 and 2026 because there is no Pac-12 auto bid). We could have a 6-team league, play 3-game H&H (30 games, no tournament) and still have room for 24 non-league games to build our SOS.
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Post by wilkyisdashiznit on Sept 23, 2024 21:55:03 GMT -8
This would be possible because the Pac-12 already has an auto bid, keeping the at-large invitees at the same number (after a two-year, one-team increase in 2025 and 2026 because there is no Pac-12 auto bid). We could have a 6-team league, play 3-game H&H (30 games, no tournament) and still have room for 24 non-league games to build our SOS. If they get to six with Gonzaga and UNLV, you could have a Pac-12 North and a Pac-12 South. You play each of the division members home-and-home. Play one of the other division teams home-and-home and then play one home and one away. If the numbers make sense (and they usually do), play a Tournament. Four teams or six teams. Who cares. With 24 conference games. You get as many as 32 nonconference games. Two weeks of extra nonconference play usually beats six extra games against Fresno/San Diego State/UNLV. But others' mileage may vary. In theory, you can play as few as 21 conference games, but 24 is generally fairer in my mind. |
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Post by 93beav on Sept 24, 2024 6:14:26 GMT -8
This would be possible because the Pac-12 already has an auto bid, keeping the at-large invitees at the same number (after a two-year, one-team increase in 2025 and 2026 because there is no Pac-12 auto bid). We could have a 6-team league, play 3-game H&H (30 games, no tournament) and still have room for 24 non-league games to build our SOS. If they get to six with Gonzaga and UNLV, you could have a Pac-12 North and a Pac-12 South. You play each of the division members home-and-home. Play one of the other division teams home-and-home and then play one home and one away. If the numbers make sense (and they usually do), play a Tournament. Four teams or six teams. Who cares. With 24 conference games. You get as many as 32 nonconference games. Two weeks of extra nonconference play usually beats six extra games against Fresno/San Diego State/UNLV. But others' mileage may vary. In theory, you can play as few as 21 conference games, but 24 is generally fairer in my mind. With your attention to detail, have you thought about becoming a conference scheduler as a 2nd career? |
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Post by wilkyisdashiznit on Sept 24, 2024 11:50:13 GMT -8
If they get to six with Gonzaga and UNLV, you could have a Pac-12 North and a Pac-12 South. You play each of the division members home-and-home. Play one of the other division teams home-and-home and then play one home and one away. If the numbers make sense (and they usually do), play a Tournament. Four teams or six teams. Who cares. With 24 conference games. You get as many as 32 nonconference games. Two weeks of extra nonconference play usually beats six extra games against Fresno/San Diego State/UNLV. But others' mileage may vary. In theory, you can play as few as 21 conference games, but 24 is generally fairer in my mind. With your attention to detail, have you thought about becoming a conference scheduler as a 2nd career? I mean, if anyone wants to hire me, I am relatively easy to find. |
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