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Post by Werebeaver on Sept 12, 2024 14:43:39 GMT -8
The “grumpy old man” aroma in these posts is off the charts. LOL.
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Post by ftd on Sept 12, 2024 14:54:02 GMT -8
The “grumpy old man” aroma in these posts is off the charts. LOL.  |
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Post by mbabeav on Sept 19, 2024 7:52:02 GMT -8
Hey, I'll live long enough to see a new Van Buren Street bridge, something I didn't think would happen. Maybe I'll still be alive when Washington Way is completely open from 15th to 35th!  And of course 30th street was closed again on Saturday between Washington and Jefferson. But the Van Buren street bridge is only going to be 2 lanes with 2 bike lanes, instead of 3 lanes merging to two after the bypass, like it should be. Why do we need a bike lane next to the road, while there’s a separate biking/pedestrian path? |
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Post by mbabeav on Sept 19, 2024 7:53:44 GMT -8
But the Van Buren street bridge is only going to be 2 lanes with 2 bike lanes, instead of 3 lanes merging to two after the bypass, like it should be. Why do we need a bike lane next to the road, while there’s a separate biking/pedestrian path? After a century of one lane, two lanes is going to feel like a luxury. |
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Post by Judge Smails on Sept 19, 2024 8:22:20 GMT -8
After a century of one lane, two lanes is going to feel like a luxury. Not for long....as the city is growing now that the state has overturned a lot of the no-growth Corvallis policies for new development and housing. |
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Post by Henry Skrimshander on Sept 19, 2024 9:10:14 GMT -8
The larger issue is the lack of an overpass at the bypass for traffic heading east. Even when you finally get across the bridge, you often have to stop again and wait for westbound traffic turning onto the bypass.
Replace that traffic light with an overpass, and you can haul ass until you're stopped again at Peoria Road!
They finally got a cloverleaf at highway 99 and 22 in Rickreall, an intersection that probably has half to 1/3 the traffic of highway 34 between Albany and Corvallis. Maybe someday we'll get in the construction que.
Oregon is woefully behind in infrastructure projects. The fact that I-5 has not been widened to three lanes between Salem and Eugene in the 50+ years since it opened is an abomination.
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Post by sessbeav on Sept 25, 2024 14:11:55 GMT -8
Geeeez. How OLD are you guys? I’m 66 and can’t IMAGINE living in ANY apartment. Luxury, or not. I gotta have my big back yard to run around naked and take the occasional PISS in w/o anybody noticing. Our grandkids and dogs would never forgive us. 😊. To each his own. 😉 You can do that in downtown Corvallis too, judging by what I've seen from some of our less-fortunate citizens. I hear I did this on my 21st birthday - but I think it was in The Beaver Hut parking lot. |
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Post by irimi on Sept 25, 2024 15:44:10 GMT -8
After a century of one lane, two lanes is going to feel like a luxury. Not for long....as the city is growing now that the state has overturned a lot of the no-growth Corvallis policies for new development and housing. LOL 217 up to Beaverton has been two lanes forever, and only now are they widening it. I think Corvallis can handle a two lane bridge, except on game days. |
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Post by irimi on Sept 25, 2024 15:48:05 GMT -8
The larger issue is the lack of an overpass at the bypass for traffic heading east. Even when you finally get across the bridge, you often have to stop again and wait for westbound traffic turning onto the bypass. Replace that traffic light with an overpass, and you can haul ass until you're stopped again at Peoria Road! They finally got a cloverleaf at highway 99 and 22 in Rickreall, an intersection that probably has half to 1/3 the traffic of highway 34 between Albany and Corvallis. Maybe someday we'll get in the construction que. Oregon is woefully behind in infrastructure projects. The fact that I-5 has not been widened to three lanes between Salem and Eugene in the 50+ years since it opened is an abomination. The I-5 stretch didn't need a third lane until it started getting clogged with Amazon (and other) truck drivers. It's the change in culture to online shopping and Prime-style delivery that has increased the traffic flow. |
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Post by ag87 on Sept 25, 2024 16:34:25 GMT -8
The larger issue is the lack of an overpass at the bypass for traffic heading east. Even when you finally get across the bridge, you often have to stop again and wait for westbound traffic turning onto the bypass. Replace that traffic light with an overpass, and you can haul ass until you're stopped again at Peoria Road! They finally got a cloverleaf at highway 99 and 22 in Rickreall, an intersection that probably has half to 1/3 the traffic of highway 34 between Albany and Corvallis. Maybe someday we'll get in the construction que. Oregon is woefully behind in infrastructure projects. The fact that I-5 has not been widened to three lanes between Salem and Eugene in the 50+ years since it opened is an abomination. The I-5 stretch didn't need a third lane until it started getting clogged with Amazon (and other) truck drivers. It's the change in culture to online shopping and Prime-style delivery that has increased the traffic flow. Population is the big driver of increased traffic flow. In about 1974, the stoplights on 217 at Denny and Allen were removed. Oregon's population was about 2.2M. Interstate 5 from Salem to Eugene was completed in about 1962 (if someone can verify this, that would be helpful). In 1962, Oregon's population was 1.8M. The current population is 4.2M. That's why traffic is heavy and the freeway seems full. |
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Post by Henry Skrimshander on Sept 25, 2024 16:35:42 GMT -8
The larger issue is the lack of an overpass at the bypass for traffic heading east. Even when you finally get across the bridge, you often have to stop again and wait for westbound traffic turning onto the bypass. Replace that traffic light with an overpass, and you can haul ass until you're stopped again at Peoria Road! They finally got a cloverleaf at highway 99 and 22 in Rickreall, an intersection that probably has half to 1/3 the traffic of highway 34 between Albany and Corvallis. Maybe someday we'll get in the construction que. Oregon is woefully behind in infrastructure projects. The fact that I-5 has not been widened to three lanes between Salem and Eugene in the 50+ years since it opened is an abomination. The I-5 stretch didn't need a third lane until it started getting clogged with Amazon (and other) truck drivers. It's the change in culture to online shopping and Prime-style delivery that has increased the traffic flow. It's needed a third lane since at least 2000. Long before Prime and Amazon. As ag87 said, the infrastructure has not kept pace with the population increase, especially when the population increase has mostly been in the I-5 corridor between Eugene and Portland. |
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Post by Judge Smails on Sept 25, 2024 16:59:11 GMT -8
Not for long....as the city is growing now that the state has overturned a lot of the no-growth Corvallis policies for new development and housing. LOL 217 up to Beaverton has been two lanes forever, and only now are they widening it. I think Corvallis can handle a two lane bridge, except on game days. LOL. There’s current 20k people per day commuting into Corvallis from Albany/Lebanon into a very small area. If you lived here, you’d get why we need 3 lanes, when the Van Buren bridge is backed up 15 blocks at 5:15. Has zero to do with game day. LOL. Not comparing it to PDX…. |
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Post by irimi on Sept 26, 2024 5:10:58 GMT -8
The I-5 stretch didn't need a third lane until it started getting clogged with Amazon (and other) truck drivers. It's the change in culture to online shopping and Prime-style delivery that has increased the traffic flow. Population is the big driver of increased traffic flow. In about 1974, the stoplights on 217 at Denny and Allen were removed. Oregon's population was about 2.2M. Interstate 5 from Salem to Eugene was completed in about 1962 (if someone can verify this, that would be helpful). In 1962, Oregon's population was 1.8M. The current population is 4.2M. That's why traffic is heavy and the freeway seems full. No doubt that population has increased significantly in Oregon, and if you only occasionally drive that route from Salem to Corvallis then it is easy to blame the increased population. But when you drive it daily, you see that generally speaking, it isn't the cars that are causing traffic congestion. It's the semis. Besides, traffic rarely comes to a standstill. Yes, three lanes would be more efficient and comfortable, but two lanes is doing a decent job most of the time. |
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Post by irimi on Sept 26, 2024 5:30:00 GMT -8
LOL 217 up to Beaverton has been two lanes forever, and only now are they widening it. I think Corvallis can handle a two lane bridge, except on game days. LOL. There’s current 20k people per day commuting into Corvallis from Albany/Lebanon into a very small area. If you lived here, you’d get why we need 3 lanes, when the Van Buren bridge is backed up 15 blocks at 5:15. Has zero to do with game day. LOL. Not comparing it to PDX…. My point was simply that I think you are undervaluing the impact that the additional lane will have. It should be able to hold the traffic and serve the area well. And in my experience, it's often the lights that are slowing the flow of traffic (when traffic is heavy). It's challenging enough just to get to the bridge. Having a third lane won't help that. |
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Post by Judge Smails on Sept 26, 2024 5:53:20 GMT -8
LOL. There’s current 20k people per day commuting into Corvallis from Albany/Lebanon into a very small area. If you lived here, you’d get why we need 3 lanes, when the Van Buren bridge is backed up 15 blocks at 5:15. Has zero to do with game day. LOL. Not comparing it to PDX…. My point was simply that I think you are undervaluing the impact that the additional lane will have. It should be able to hold the traffic and serve the area well. And in my experience, it's often the lights that are slowing the flow of traffic (when traffic is heavy). It's challenging enough just to get to the bridge. Having a third lane won't help that. Still would rather have 3 traffic lanes than 2 bike lanes considering the bike path ends at Woodcastle Furniture. It’s a bike path to nowhere. |
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