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Post by beavaristotle on May 19, 2024 14:17:31 GMT -8
A pitcher that throws overhand with an arm that is late throws the ball high. A sidearm release like Bridger with a late arm throws the ball in the right hand batter’s box. Very important for him to get to a good balanced position without starting to drift forward too soon which will cause his arm to be late
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Post by easyheat on May 19, 2024 17:12:42 GMT -8
Going forward, the coaches may be assessing our Bullpen mix. Allowing 16 hits, 13 walks and 16 hit batters in 28 innings pitched isn't the model of expectancy you have from your "closer". Maybe a more effective set-up man working 2 or 3 innings per appearance. Good heat at 93 and the round house curveball (Sweeper) misses bats but 45 runners in 28 innings is too many for a late game Fireman.
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Post by kersting13 on May 20, 2024 10:28:49 GMT -8
16 hit batters in 28 innings is the dumb stat of the day.
How is that even possible???
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Post by rgeorge on May 20, 2024 11:09:15 GMT -8
Bridger is a "thrower" and has been since day 1 on this roster. He no doubt had some success and will again at times, but he is not a "pitcher". As mentioned his mechanics are very loose and he truly has no idea where his ball is going at times. Part of that is the style of a "submarine/sidearm" delivery, but he has no consistency in his motion. There are plenty of very good pitchers with his motion, but they are consistent in their balance points, shoulder angles, spinal axis, and landing footwork. Bridger is all over the place and it appears he doesn't have the discipline to have consistent focus on his mechanics.
I will say that the toughest type of pitcher to "coach", and create consistent mechanics are sidearm/submariners. They just do not fit the normal pitching fundamentals and constraints that 95% of other pitchers focus on. Typically the issue with this motion and with Bridger is he "flies open" very early. And in Bridger's case some guys just have no idea how much movement, or not, they will get on a specific pitch. Dorman has probably torn his hair out more than once working with Bridger and knows full well when "bad Bridger" shows up as he has the shortest leash of almost any guy out of the pen.
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Post by 56chevy on May 20, 2024 11:23:50 GMT -8
He is un-hittable most of the time. We've lived a dangerous closer life for years and should have the temperament for it by now.
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Post by Henry Skrimshander on May 20, 2024 11:56:52 GMT -8
Bridger is a "thrower" and has been since day 1 on this roster. He no doubt had some success and will again at times, but he is not a "pitcher". As mentioned his mechanics are very loose and he truly has no idea where his ball is going at times. Part of that is the style of a "submarine/sidearm" delivery, but he has no consistency in his motion. There are plenty of very good pitchers with his motion, but they are consistent in their balance points, shoulder angles, spinal axis, and landing footwork. Bridger is all over the place and it appears he doesn't have the discipline to have consistent focus on his mechanics. I will say that the toughest type of pitcher to "coach", and create consistent mechanics are sidearm/submariners. They just do not fit the normal pitching fundamentals and constraints that 95% of other pitchers focus on. Typically the issue with this motion and with Bridger is he "flies open" very early. And in Bridger's case some guys just have no idea how much movement, or not, they will get on a specific pitch. Dorman has probably torn his hair out more than once working with Bridger and knows full well when "bad Bridger" shows up as he has the shortest leash of almost any guy out of the pen.And he can go from "good Bridger" to "bad Bridger" between at-bats. Frustrating to watch, like Earl Weaver agonizing over Don Stanhouse back in the late 1970s. |
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Post by rgeorge on May 20, 2024 11:57:50 GMT -8
Bridger is a "thrower" and has been since day 1 on this roster. He no doubt had some success and will again at times, but he is not a "pitcher". As mentioned his mechanics are very loose and he truly has no idea where his ball is going at times. Part of that is the style of a "submarine/sidearm" delivery, but he has no consistency in his motion. There are plenty of very good pitchers with his motion, but they are consistent in their balance points, shoulder angles, spinal axis, and landing footwork. Bridger is all over the place and it appears he doesn't have the discipline to have consistent focus on his mechanics. I will say that the toughest type of pitcher to "coach", and create consistent mechanics are sidearm/submariners. They just do not fit the normal pitching fundamentals and constraints that 95% of other pitchers focus on. Typically the issue with this motion and with Bridger is he "flies open" very early. And in Bridger's case some guys just have no idea how much movement, or not, they will get on a specific pitch. Dorman has probably torn his hair out more than once working with Bridger and knows full well when "bad Bridger" shows up as he has the shortest leash of almost any guy out of the pen.And he can go from "good Bridger" to "bad Bridger" between at-bats. Frustrating to watch, like Earl Weaver agonizing over Don Stanhouse back in the late 1970s. Mitch Williams comes to my mind... |
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Post by Judge Smails on May 20, 2024 12:44:23 GMT -8
And he can go from "good Bridger" to "bad Bridger" between at-bats. Frustrating to watch, like Earl Weaver agonizing over Don Stanhouse back in the late 1970s. Mitch Williams comes to my mind... As long as he's not the A-hole Mitch is........ |
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Post by wilkyisdashiznit on May 20, 2024 13:29:06 GMT -8
He is un-hittable most of the time. We've lived a dangerous closer life for years and should have the temperament for it by now. Oregon State has been blessed at closer for years. Ryan Brown for the last two years. Mully for the five years before that. 2016 was Max Engelbrekt, and 2015 was Mitch Hickey. I feel like we are closing games in a 2016 kind of way. Brown may have been the biggest loss through the 2023 MLB Draft of them all. |
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Post by beavaristotle on May 20, 2024 15:25:29 GMT -8
He is un-hittable most of the time. We've lived a dangerous closer life for years and should have the temperament for it by now. Oregon State has been blessed at closer for years. Ryan Brown for the last two years. Mully for the five years before that. 2016 was Max Engelbrekt, and 2015 was Mitch Hickey. I feel like we are closing games in a 2016 kind of way. Brown may have been the biggest loss through the 2023 MLB Draft of them all. don’t forget the circus known as Kevin Rodrick, he made Bridger Holmes look like Mariano Rivera |
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Post by speakthetruth on May 20, 2024 17:18:43 GMT -8
He is un-hittable most of the time. We've lived a dangerous closer life for years and should have the temperament for it by now. Unhittable? Maybe. But in keeping guys off the basepaths he isn't doing the job. Between hits, walks, and hit by pitch in 28 innings he has let 45 on base. Majority were walks and hit by pitch. So I guess he is unhittable. Lol. |
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Post by messi on May 20, 2024 20:13:32 GMT -8
Oregon State has been blessed at closer for years. Ryan Brown for the last two years. Mully for the five years before that. 2016 was Max Engelbrekt, and 2015 was Mitch Hickey. I feel like we are closing games in a 2016 kind of way. Brown may have been the biggest loss through the 2023 MLB Draft of them all. don’t forget the circus known as Kevin Rodrick, he made Bridger Holmes look like Mariano Rivera Ah yes, Rhoderick. That's when I learned the phrase, "electric stuff" means "no control, do not buy". |
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Post by 56chevy on May 20, 2024 21:12:18 GMT -8
I'll take Bridger every day with a 1 run lead and a need to get three outs.
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Post by rgeorge on May 20, 2024 21:23:40 GMT -8
I'll take Bridger every day with a 1 run lead and a need to get three outs. Well, since we're 4-8(?) in one run games overall. Bridger being what 3-4, 11 saves, but only (1) I can remember was a 1-run game. You probably don't go to the post season if there are many 1-run games?! |
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Post by osubeaver2018 on May 20, 2024 22:18:01 GMT -8
don’t forget the circus known as Kevin Rodrick, he made Bridger Holmes look like Mariano Rivera Ah yes, Rhoderick. That's when I learned the phrase, "electric stuff" means "no control, do not buy". I think my favorite part about K-Rhod was before he began his warm-up he would get a running start from behind the mound, crow-hop, and just throw the ball at the catcher as hard as he possibly could. 90% of the time it went to the backstop but I guess it instilled fear (for their lives if a fastball hit them) in the batter?
It was entertaining to say the least.
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