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Post by rgeorge on Apr 21, 2024 15:40:39 GMT -8
2022 Oregon State lost four straight in conference play and still hosted a Super Regional. And that was AFTER starting this wretched 30-8 that everyone is pissing and moaning about. Oregon State has historically thrived under adversity. It ain't over. In pre-game, Parker was talking to Zach Taylor (I think) and Zach was relating how they lost two series on the road back in 2018. Utah and then Arizona. Saying it's the end of the Beavers is ridiculous. BUT the Beavs have to figure out what's wrong. Zach was saying that they aren't playing loose enough and staying in the moment. Well, you may dislike his personal take/opinion, but it has more validity than comparing this team to the 2018 team. Point blank what a team with a completely different roster, coaching staff, and talent/make up did 6 seasons ago... nope!
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Post by wilkyisdashiznit on Apr 21, 2024 22:29:15 GMT -8
In pre-game, Parker was talking to Zach Taylor (I think) and Zach was relating how they lost two series on the road back in 2018. Utah and then Arizona. Saying it's the end of the Beavers is ridiculous. BUT the Beavs have to figure out what's wrong. Zach was saying that they aren't playing loose enough and staying in the moment. Well, you may dislike his personal take/opinion, but it has more validity than comparing this team to the 2018 team. Point blank what a team with a completely different roster, coaching staff, and talent/make up did 6 seasons ago... nope! In order to determine when, where, and how powerful hurricanes are, they look at the tracks of old hurricanes. This is despite different high and low pressure systems, different sea temperatures, different air temperatures, and different wind shear patterns. Spaghetti tracks of how the storm should travel, if it is anything like any of the previous storms, show where the storm is likely to travel and how powerful it is likely to be. Is it 100%? Absolutely not. Is there that one weird storm every so often, which behaves nothing like all of the storms? Absolutely. Does that one-off storm mean that you throw the baby out with the bathwater and act like what has happened before has absolutely no bearing on what is likely or even probable to happen in the future? No, of course not. This might be the one-off season, sure. But why ignore prior data? It is only by looking backward that we can look forward, only using the date from prior years that we can guess at what is likely or even might happen. Anyway, that's my opinion. And I would hazard to guess that it's not a surprise to anyone.
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Post by rgeorge on Apr 21, 2024 23:42:22 GMT -8
Well, you may dislike his personal take/opinion, but it has more validity than comparing this team to the 2018 team. Point blank what a team with a completely different roster, coaching staff, and talent/make up did 6 seasons ago... nope! In order to determine when, where, and how powerful hurricanes are, they look at the tracks of old hurricanes. This is despite different high and low pressure systems, different sea temperatures, different air temperatures, and different wind shear patterns. Spaghetti tracks of how the storm should travel, if it is anything like any of the previous storms, show where the storm is likely to travel and how powerful it is likely to be. Is it 100%? Absolutely not. Is there that one weird storm every so often, which behaves nothing like all of the storms? Absolutely. Does that one-off storm mean that you throw the baby out with the bathwater and act like what has happened before has absolutely no bearing on what is likely or even probable to happen in the future? No, of course not. This might be the one-off season, sure. But why ignore prior data? It is only by looking backward that we can look forward, only using the date from prior years that we can guess at what is likely or even might happen. Anyway, that's my opinion. And I would hazard to guess that it's not a surprise to anyone. It's not an opinion... it's a study of historical weather patterns to help in predictions. And, past storms don't have any bearing on future storms. A study of patterns isn't the same as having a bearing on the future. Unfortunately baseball doesn't follow such historical patterns. Study all you want. But, you know that. But, then again you know record wise 2024 can never tie 2017 in the number of possible games remaining. Your posts on that topic are about the W/L "record" not the # of wins. Hence, 26 straight and 56-9 doesn't tie 56-6. What's amazing about 56-6 is that the '24 OSU team would have to win 54 straight to go 84-9 to tie at a 90.32258065% winning pct.
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Post by irimi on Apr 22, 2024 4:36:52 GMT -8
In pre-game, Parker was talking to Zach Taylor (I think) and Zach was relating how they lost two series on the road back in 2018. Utah and then Arizona. Saying it's the end of the Beavers is ridiculous. BUT the Beavs have to figure out what's wrong. Zach was saying that they aren't playing loose enough and staying in the moment. Well, you may dislike his personal take/opinion, but it has more validity than comparing this team to the 2018 team. Point blank what a team with a completely different roster, coaching staff, and talent/make up did 6 seasons ago... nope! YOU are comparing the team to the 2018 team (different roster, coaches…). Taylor and Parker were giving information: the Beavers have lost back-to-back conference series and managed to win it all. I thought that this information would be especially important to hear right now. This team has the potential, I believe, to outshine 2018. But unlike 2018’s team, they don’t seem “hungry” enough; they didn’t have the disappointment of the previous season to inspire them. As I have said elsewhere, this is where Canham needs to earn his money. There. That’s my comparison of the two teams. Note: I won’t go further with the comparison, breaking down positions and such because it isn’t fruitful. We have the 2024 team to support, not the 2018 team to fawn over. That would do as much good as comparing your wife to an old girlfriend.
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