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Post by beaverinohio on Apr 3, 2024 18:15:17 GMT -8
First, I agree that the mid-six figures for Pope is not realistic nor was the $100k for Lucas. However, I have pushed back on your assertion that no one in college basketball is getting 100k. I don’t think you are correct. I DMed the insider on the Illini board and asked him how many kids are getting at least a $100k — none, 5, 50, just about every P4 school has at least one? As I’ve said before, this guy is well connected in college bball world (coaches, AAU programs, and the Illinois program specifically). His answer was: “Many, many, many kids are getting 100k ... We had 4 guys on our team last year that got over 100k ... One guy got over 500k ... “ Now I don’t know what “many, many, many” exactly means, but it certainly isn’t none. Now I don’t know all the intricacies of how and from where NIL money is disbursed, so maybe it’s not coming from a NIL collective per se. But there are kids getting that much. Certainly numbers are exaggerated (mainly by players and their camps I believe) and I think there are a lot of players with $ signs dancing in their heads who end up very disappointed. And there are schools that over promise and the kids end up not getting what was “owed,”. But it would not surprise me in the least if Pope gets $100k or more (but not mid 6 figures). I’m guessing the Illini player getting $500k was Terrance Shannon, Jr., and Pope ain’t no TSJ. I also asked him if he would pass along any info he might hear about landing spots for Pope, Tyler and Rataj. He said he’s already heard UCLA is interested in Pope. I have also heard that UCLA is interested in Pope, just a matter of how interested I suppose. Saw they just signed Skyy Clark, so not sure if they’d want Pope too. |
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Post by drunkandstoopidbeav on Apr 3, 2024 18:54:25 GMT -8
I have also heard that UCLA is interested in Pope, just a matter of how interested I suppose. Saw they just signed Skyy Clark, so not sure if they’d want Pope too. Ucla would probably be happy to hoard talent for backups. I'm sure we would, if we could. |
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Post by spudbeaver on Apr 3, 2024 19:10:46 GMT -8
I have also heard that UCLA is interested in Pope, just a matter of how interested I suppose. Saw they just signed Skyy Clark, so not sure if they’d want Pope too. Are you saying the Skyy is the limit? |
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Post by beaverinohio on Apr 8, 2024 14:04:12 GMT -8
So no word of any movement on guys coming in? Also, has Rataj entered portal? Don’t think I’ve seen anything. Did I miss it?
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Post by drunkandstoopidbeav on Apr 8, 2024 14:44:52 GMT -8
So no word of any movement on guys coming in? Also, has Rataj entered portal? Don’t think I’ve seen anything. Did I miss it? Only a very small portion of kids that have joined the portal have committed to anywhere. They have about a half a year or so to find a spot. It's quite early yet. |
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Post by beaverinohio on Apr 8, 2024 14:52:53 GMT -8
So no word of any movement on guys coming in? Also, has Rataj entered portal? Don’t think I’ve seen anything. Did I miss it? Only a very small portion of kids that have joined the portal have committed to anywhere. They have about a half a year or so to find a spot. It's quite early yet. Yes, I know that. But that isn’t what I asked. And teams are signing guys. UCLA has at least two and DePaul has 6 already. Holtmann seems to being doing well there so far. I know they’re currently in dead period (ends Thursday I believe), but was hoping someone had some insight into who we’re targeting so far. And if Beavers are making their first signings in “about half a year,” we are in deep doo-doo. |
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Post by ochobeavo on Apr 8, 2024 14:55:07 GMT -8
So no word of any movement on guys coming in? Also, has Rataj entered portal? Don’t think I’ve seen anything. Did I miss it? Only a very small portion of kids that have joined the portal have committed to anywhere. They have about a half a year or so to find a spot. It's quite early yet. I believe the portal closes May 1. |
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Post by speakthetruth on Apr 8, 2024 15:11:44 GMT -8
The last time tinkle had to rely on the portal it didn't turn out so good.
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Post by Judge Smails on Apr 8, 2024 15:35:38 GMT -8
The last time tinkle had to rely on the portal it didn't turn out so good. Tinkle's portal potty. |
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Post by wilkyisdashiznit on Apr 8, 2024 15:38:51 GMT -8
Only a very small portion of kids that have joined the portal have committed to anywhere. They have about a half a year or so to find a spot. It's quite early yet. Yes, I know that. But that isn’t what I asked. And teams are signing guys. UCLA has at least two and DePaul has 6 already. Holtmann seems to being doing well there so far. I know they’re currently in dead period ( ends Thursday I believe), but was hoping someone had some insight into who we’re targeting so far. And if Beavers are making their first signings in “about half a year,” we are in deep doo-doo. Yes, the dead period ends after the 11th. Then, you have until May 1st. After May 1st, I do not think that you can recruit until September. So, you should have a great idea at what everything will look like, more or less, in 3-4 weeks. |
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Post by drunkandstoopidbeav on Apr 8, 2024 17:30:15 GMT -8
Only a very small portion of kids that have joined the portal have committed to anywhere. They have about a half a year or so to find a spot. It's quite early yet. I believe the portal closes May 1. Hundreds have jumped in, a few dozen have new schools. The portal closes May 1st, and everyone in it as much time as it takes to look for new schools. I'm pretty sure May 1st is NOT the drop dead date for finding a new school once in the portal. It wouldn't make sense for just about anyone to join in the last days at all. From what I'm seeing, the Transfer Portal doesn't "close", but entry to it closes until the next period. From one of many articles out there that are not very clear.... "That midnight deadline refers not to the ability of players to appear in the portal, but rather to submit their names and declare their intention to transfer. Provided a player has turned in his paperwork by that time, he will have met the deadline." I've never seen anything that says that portal list evaporates after the deadline. It's supposedly about identifying players that want to transfer. |
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Post by rgeorge on Apr 8, 2024 23:33:07 GMT -8
Recruits have a signing period (April 17-May 15??) plus the upcoming portal period. Dead periods April 4-8, recruiting shutdown May 6-12, then two dead periods.. one in June and July.
As far as I know:
Early signing period: November 8-15, 2023
Regular signing period: April 17 – May 15, 2024
From other sites:
Dead period and recruiting shutdowns: During the dead period, coaches may not have any in-person contact with recruits or their parents. But communication is still allowed to occur via phone, email and social media or other digital communication channels. A recruiting shutdown, on the other hand, means no forms of recruiting are permitted, including contact with college coaches, evaluations, unofficial or official visits, correspondence and making or receiving phone calls.
August 14-20, 2023: Recruiting shutdown
December 24–26, 2023: Dead period
April 4-8, 2024: Dead period
May 6-12, 2024: Recruiting shutdown
June 11-12, 2024: Dead period
July 10-18, 2024: Dead period
Quiet period: During a quiet period, athletes can talk to college coaches in-person on their college campus. However, the coach can’t watch recruits compete in-person, visit their school, talk to them at their home or anywhere outside of the college campus.
August 1-31, 2023 (Except recruiting shutdown Aug. 14-20, 2023)
April 9-18, 2024 (Expect evaluation period
April 22-May 5, 2024
May 13-16, 2024
May 20-June 10, 2024
June 16-July 9, 2024
July 23-31, 2024
Evaluation period: Also known as a live period, the evaluation period is the specific time of year when college coaches can watch an athlete compete in person or visit their school. But coaches can’t communicate with recruits (or their parents) off the college campus.
October 1, 2023 – February 29, 2024 (only scholastic events)
April 19–21, 2024 (only certified non-scholastic events)
May 17–19, 2024 (only certified non-scholastic events)
June 13-15, 2024 (only scholastic events)
July 12-15, 2024 (only certified non-scholastic events and institutional camps)
July 19–22, 2024 (only certified non-scholastic events and institutional camps)
July 26–29, 2024 (NCAA College Basketball Academy only)
Contact period: During the contact period, all communication between athletes and coaches is fair game.
September 1-30, 2023 (seniors only)
March 1–April 3, 2024 (seniors only)
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Post by alexm on Apr 9, 2024 14:59:02 GMT -8
First, I agree that the mid-six figures for Pope is not realistic nor was the $100k for Lucas. However, I have pushed back on your assertion that no one in college basketball is getting 100k. I don’t think you are correct. I DMed the insider on the Illini board and asked him how many kids are getting at least a $100k — none, 5, 50, just about every P4 school has at least one? As I’ve said before, this guy is well connected in college bball world (coaches, AAU programs, and the Illinois program specifically). His answer was: “Many, many, many kids are getting 100k ... We had 4 guys on our team last year that got over 100k ... One guy got over 500k ... “ Now I don’t know what “many, many, many” exactly means, but it certainly isn’t none. Now I don’t know all the intricacies of how and from where NIL money is disbursed, so maybe it’s not coming from a NIL collective per se. But there are kids getting that much. Certainly numbers are exaggerated (mainly by players and their camps I believe) and I think there are a lot of players with $ signs dancing in their heads who end up very disappointed. And there are schools that over promise and the kids end up not getting what was “owed,”. But it would not surprise me in the least if Pope gets $100k or more (but not mid 6 figures). I’m guessing the Illini player getting $500k was Terrance Shannon, Jr., and Pope ain’t no TSJ. I also asked him if he would pass along any info he might hear about landing spots for Pope, Tyler and Rataj. He said he’s already heard UCLA is interested in Pope. I have also heard that UCLA is interested in Pope, just a matter of how interested I suppose. Timing probably not right for Pope to Westwood given how quickly Clark jumped and he's probably not a fit with Andrews in the same backcourt anyway. But yeah...Pope is getting far more than $100k if he goes to the highest bidder. UConn beat us out for Cam Spencer with $600k, and that was last season. Still looks like we're targeting Bilodeau, though apparently a PF from Oklahoma State is visiting and expected to commit this upcoming weekend. It's possible we think Bilodeau can play some 5, especially if Bona leaves. Speaking of which, apparently Bona's offer from the UCLA collective is for well above an NBA 2 way contract, which is a bit more than $500k. So that's where the numbers are at right now from our POV. |
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Post by beaverinohio on Apr 9, 2024 15:28:11 GMT -8
I have also heard that UCLA is interested in Pope, just a matter of how interested I suppose. Timing probably not right for Pope to Westwood given how quickly Clark jumped and he's probably not a fit with Andrews in the same backcourt anyway. But yeah...Pope is getting far more than $100k if he goes to the highest bidder. UConn beat us out for Cam Spencer with $600k, and that was last season. Still looks like we're targeting Bilodeau, though apparently a PF from Oklahoma State is visiting and expected to commit this upcoming weekend. It's possible we think Bilodeau can play some 5, especially if Bona leaves. Speaking of which, apparently Bona's offer from the UCLA collective is for well above an NBA 2 way contract, which is a bit more than $500k. So that's where the numbers are at right now from our POV. Thanks for the information. |
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Post by beaverinohio on Apr 9, 2024 15:48:24 GMT -8
I have also heard that UCLA is interested in Pope, just a matter of how interested I suppose. Timing probably not right for Pope to Westwood given how quickly Clark jumped and he's probably not a fit with Andrews in the same backcourt anyway. But yeah...Pope is getting far more than $100k if he goes to the highest bidder. UConn beat us out for Cam Spencer with $600k, and that was last season. Still looks like we're targeting Bilodeau, though apparently a PF from Oklahoma State is visiting and expected to commit this upcoming weekend. It's possible we think Bilodeau can play some 5, especially if Bona leaves. Speaking of which, apparently Bona's offer from the UCLA collective is for well above an NBA 2 way contract, which is a bit more than $500k. So that's where the numbers are at right now from our POV. Oh, and good luck with Skyy. As an Illinois fan also, I have a feeling you’ll need it. It sounds like Sencire Harris will be back for Illini. Can’t wait to see Skyy’s response when Harris is draped all over him in their 2 (1?) games next year. The good news for you and the team is Skyy will likely transfer after next year. |
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