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Post by wilkyisdashiznit on Mar 29, 2024 19:15:54 GMT -8
If the ACC does that smart thing and still stays together after FSU and Clemson leave, maybe add Tulane, it will remain a P5 conference. And isn't their TV contract ironclad until 2035 or something? What will be interesting is, what will Notre Dame do if the ACC breaks up? No one is going to take their Olympic sports without football, like the ACC stupidly did. 2036 I think? But, there is a negotiation clause in there sometime. One of the issues Clemson and FSU are using to get out. Don't really pay attention to the intricacies as I don't care about the ACC and hope this schools/ travel are never an option. Yeah, the Grant of Rights supposedly runs out in 2036. But Clemson and Florida State have argued that the Grant of Rights, which runs out in 2027, was never properly extended to 2036, because not all of the ACC teams signed off on the extension. It would not be terrible, if Oregon State played Cal, SMU, Stanford, and Wazzu and took two trips back East every year. It would be better, if the ACC included two additional teams west of Louisiana to make a seven-team pod. Then, Oregon State would just have one trip back East every year. |
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Post by rgeorge on Mar 29, 2024 19:18:46 GMT -8
2036 I think? But, there is a negotiation clause in there sometime. One of the issues Clemson and FSU are using to get out. Don't really pay attention to the intricacies as I don't care about the ACC and hope this schools/ travel are never an option. Yeah, the Grant of Rights supposedly runs out in 2036. But Clemson and Florida State have argued that the Grant of Rights, which runs out in 2027, was never properly extended to 2036, because not all of the ACC teams signed off on the extension. It would not be terrible, if Oregon State played Cal, SMU, Stanford, and Wazzu and took two trips back East every year. It would be better, if the ACC included two additional teams west of Louisiana to make a seven-team pod. Then, Oregon State would just have one trip back East every year. I personally despise those types of conferences. Never really have a true champion. It all depends on the randomness of the schedule and how teams happen to be playing the year you play them. |
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Post by wilkyisdashiznit on Mar 29, 2024 19:22:02 GMT -8
Yeah, the Grant of Rights supposedly runs out in 2036. But Clemson and Florida State have argued that the Grant of Rights, which runs out in 2027, was never properly extended to 2036, because not all of the ACC teams signed off on the extension. It would not be terrible, if Oregon State played Cal, SMU, Stanford, and Wazzu and took two trips back East every year. It would be better, if the ACC included two additional teams west of Louisiana to make a seven-team pod. Then, Oregon State would just have one trip back East every year. I personally despise those types of conferences. Never really have a true champion. It all depends on the randomness of the schedule and how teams happen to be playing the year you play them.  |
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Post by ag87 on Mar 29, 2024 20:32:10 GMT -8
2036 I think? But, there is a negotiation clause in there sometime. One of the issues Clemson and FSU are using to get out. Don't really pay attention to the intricacies as I don't care about the ACC and hope this schools/ travel are never an option. Yeah, the Grant of Rights supposedly runs out in 2036. But Clemson and Florida State have argued that the Grant of Rights, which runs out in 2027, was never properly extended to 2036, because not all of the ACC teams signed off on the extension. It would not be terrible, if Oregon State played Cal, SMU, Stanford, and Wazzu and took two trips back East every year. It would be better, if the ACC included two additional teams west of Louisiana to make a seven-team pod. Then, Oregon State would just have one trip back East every year. Yep. And I hope those two teams west of Louisiana are in California/Nevada. You could even make it three. |
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Post by grayman on Mar 29, 2024 21:46:41 GMT -8
I'm thinking OSU, WSU, Cal, Stanford, SMU and San Diego State at the minimum.
I think going to eight would be better.
I've heard that a sticking point for Stanford isn't so much the academics as wanting to make sure it can have a place in which its Olympic sports can compete and that's what made the ACC a suitable landing spot despite the travel.
I have no idea how much that would change but if Stanford goes independent I think Boise State is a no-brainer. The ACC would have to agree, though.
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Post by aggielarry on Mar 31, 2024 21:03:58 GMT -8
 The Mountain West Conference watching the ACC starting to come apart  Riiight. The ACC will lose two schools, FSU and Clemson, and will backfill with two schools from east of the Mississippi. We'll see you guys July 1, 2026. |
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Post by wilkyisdashiznit on Mar 31, 2024 21:52:48 GMT -8
The Mountain West Conference watching the ACC starting to come apart Riiight. The ACC will lose two schools, FSU and Clemson, and will backfill with two schools from east of the Mississippi. We'll see you guys July 1, 2026.  |
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Post by atownbeaver on Apr 1, 2024 9:13:22 GMT -8
Riiight. The ACC will lose two schools, FSU and Clemson, and will backfill with two schools from east of the Mississippi. We'll see you guys July 1, 2026. I mean, they freely grabbed two west coast teams, why not two more? |
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Post by highincascadia on Apr 1, 2024 9:48:08 GMT -8
Yeah, the Grant of Rights supposedly runs out in 2036. But Clemson and Florida State have argued that the Grant of Rights, which runs out in 2027, was never properly extended to 2036, because not all of the ACC teams signed off on the extension. It would not be terrible, if Oregon State played Cal, SMU, Stanford, and Wazzu and took two trips back East every year. It would be better, if the ACC included two additional teams west of Louisiana to make a seven-team pod. Then, Oregon State would just have one trip back East every year. I personally despise those types of conferences. Never really have a true champion. It all depends on the randomness of the schedule and how teams happen to be playing the year you play them. I 100% agree. Round robin is the most logical and fairest way to decide champions. However, other conferences seem to be doing it in a way that skips over certain opponents and by doing so really puts emphasis on how 'lucky' a teams' schedule is. And, those conferences always seem to have a representative in BIG6 bowls. (Except FSU last year but that was egregious) |
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Post by grayman on Apr 1, 2024 14:59:58 GMT -8
I mean, they freely grabbed two west coast teams, why not two more? Yep. And if the ACC loses more, why not go for East Coast-West Coast divisions of 6 to 8 teams each? Then you keep at least some semblance of regionality and you're definitely still positioned as a top 4 conference. |
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