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Post by beaverwbb fan on Apr 6, 2024 18:01:12 GMT -8
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Post by beavs6 on Apr 6, 2024 18:04:48 GMT -8
F!
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Post by Judge Smails on Apr 6, 2024 18:05:48 GMT -8
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Post by speakthetruth on Apr 6, 2024 18:09:01 GMT -8
I've come to the conclusion that the talk about we are family, we love each other, blah blah blah is just that blah, blah, blah. It's always has and always will be all about me, me, me.
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Post by grayman on Apr 6, 2024 18:17:56 GMT -8
Well, if this is true and the Gardiner rumors are true then either they see the WCC as a dealbreaker or there's something else going on with the program. Or both.
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Post by speakthetruth on Apr 6, 2024 18:22:37 GMT -8
I got a question or two. 1. Why does it seem that older college athletes say 30 on up are more tied to the college they played at then younger players? Is it because younger players could transfer at a moments notice? Has society changed (less team more me)?
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Post by avidbeaver on Apr 6, 2024 18:32:50 GMT -8
I've come to the conclusion that the talk about we are family, we love each other, blah blah blah is just that blah, blah, blah. It's always has and always will be all about me, me, me. Yeah, how many times have I heard I love it at OS. Now, when the going gets tough, the so called tough get going...right out the door(if that is what happens) The only thing I see as an exception, in my opinion, is a grad transfer who can't get the grad degree they want at OS. They have to get that grad degree though because otherwise it just another mechanism to leave. By the way, how many athletes who are grad transfers actually get that grad degree? That would be interesting thing to know.
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Post by jimbob on Apr 6, 2024 18:34:53 GMT -8
I got a question or two. 1. Why does it seem that older college athletes say 30 on up are more tied to the college they played at then younger players? Is it because younger players could transfer at a moments notice? Has society changed (less team more me)? "Has society changed (less team more me)?"----I think you speakthetruth there!
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Post by avidbeaver on Apr 6, 2024 18:36:19 GMT -8
I got a question or two. 1. Why does it seem that older college athletes say 30 on up are more tied to the college they played at then younger players? Is it because younger players could transfer at a moments notice? Has society changed (less team more me)? Absolutely no loyalty anymore due to the ease of transferring. A player can play for four or five different schools without sitting out a year. The transfer portal is a joke and has gotten way out of hand. That along with NIL is destroying college athletics.
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Post by ffymdr123 on Apr 6, 2024 18:39:17 GMT -8
The ones most likey to transfer out so they can stay in a P5 conference are the ones with the most upside unfortunately; Gardiner, Beers, Hunter and maybe Hansford and Paurova. Any others that go are hitting a life raft off a perceived sinking ship for at least the next two years with no P5 conference, top players leaving and no commits in '24 or '25 yet.
My opinion.
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Post by grayman on Apr 6, 2024 18:46:23 GMT -8
The ones most likey to transfer out so they can stay in a P5 conference are the ones with the most upside unfortunately; Gardiner, Beers, Hunter and maybe Hansford and Paurova. Any others that go are hitting a life raft off a perceived sinking ship for at least the next two years with no P5 conference and no commits in '24 or '25 yet. My opinion. I thought that Beers and Hunter staying would be enough to keep the team going at a pretty high level even without TVO and probably Gardiner. Now it looks like TVO, Gardiner and Hunter. If Beers stays along with Dom and Hansford, etc., they will be fine. Probably not Elite Eight fine, but fine. If not, well, I guess the Beavers will be a good fit for the WCC.
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Post by jimbob on Apr 6, 2024 19:09:28 GMT -8
Say it isn't so please!....The only reason I could see for this is a big NIL offer---I mean everything I've read on her recruitment was that she only really ever wanted to be a Beaver! I wonder who these sources are?---I mean this and then Glove says he has a pretty reliable source that tells him Timea has already filled out the transfer portal paperwork, and Nick Daschel sources tell him more transfers are coming? But then our best insider beav74 just came out with this statement: "As far as I know….no one leaving." and we know his source is an assistant coach but perhaps the coaches are just as much in the dark about who is going or staying as we are!
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Post by jimbob on Apr 6, 2024 19:15:32 GMT -8
Even if she is flying to Tempe...it's not unusual for people who live in Oregon to fly somewhere sunny about now. And, if the insinuation was that she was headed to or interested in ASU wbb... She needs to rethink that! Lol Agree---The way the rumors are flying Martha will end up being our starting pg next year in the WCC if she stays with us!
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Post by 93beav on Apr 6, 2024 20:14:56 GMT -8
I got a question or two. 1. Why does it seem that older college athletes say 30 on up are more tied to the college they played at then younger players? Is it because younger players could transfer at a moments notice? Has society changed (less team more me)? Both? I think that part of it is "everybody is doing it so if I'm not, I'm missing out." There's probably also the aspect of getting paid, to be honest. If Hunter was able to get $50k AND play at the same level of competition, should she? I do think society is a component of it, though. I know in my field (engineering), the average tenure length for millennials was/is around 18 months at a job, probably less for generations after. I think everyone is exploring a brand new world. And as a few people here have pointed out, they may not discover until years later that they never should have left.
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Post by beavdowg on Apr 6, 2024 20:16:04 GMT -8
The “something must be up inside the program” statements were rampant a couple years ago when Brown and Jones and some others transferred out. The easy scapegoat was that SR was difficult to play for and he was too rigid on offense, etc. who knows if that was the case then but I’m pretty sure that’s not the case this time around. If so, it would confirm that it takes exactly 2 years for the girls to figure it out, ‘cause that’s how long it took Jones and Brown to transfer out and that’s the exact time frame with Beers and TG. So, it’s either SR is on his way out or the WCC demotion is the culprit. I still really don’t think it’s an NIL short coming. If this does all hit the fan, and Rueck isn’t gone, and our roster falls on its face it’s a WCC thing.
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