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Post by Judge Smails on Jan 31, 2024 6:27:48 GMT -8
Traffic on the 217 corridor - yikes. When I was still working in Portland (1998+/-), there was a developer from Abu Dhabi who started buying up parcels in a triangle bordered by 217, Oak Street and Hall Blvd. He had major plans. I know there was 500-foot tall office tower and lots of high density housing. He was negotiating with Tri-Met and said he would commit $100M to a light-rail line from Beaverton Center to Tualatin. Those meetings were a couple of levels over my head but I know he put the project on the back burner and developed the mixed use project in Vancouver between 6th, 8th, Columbia and Washington Streets. Anyway, the preliminary traffic studies 26 years ago were scary horrible, therefore the proposed light rail solution. It's possible he still holds the options on properties near Washington Square. If there is an MLB park at the existing Progress Downs Golf Course, it will have to be served by rail. 217 will never by four lanes in each direction and Portland is done building freeways. I like the Progress Downs reference. They changed the name to Red Tail in 1999.
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Post by beavheart on Jan 31, 2024 9:55:39 GMT -8
Too bad they had to turn Portland Meadows into yet another stupid distribution center. It would have been the perfect location.
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Post by pabeaver on Jan 31, 2024 18:22:26 GMT -8
I was literally telling my kids a couple of weeks ago, while on a Saturday morning drive to their basketball game, that 217 is by far the worst highway in Oregon. Worst design (countless entrance/exit ramps??), worst traffic
I can’t imagine why you would put a professional stadium there. Just about anywhere else would have better access to the airport, transportation, restaurants, etc.
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Post by rgeorge on Jan 31, 2024 19:01:43 GMT -8
Well... where is PDX proper is a good spot?
Going up I5 toward Vancouver is just as bad. Downtown terrible just for 3/4 full Blazers' games. Anywhere out of PDX, better traffic flow, less residential and business traffic, yet a short commute would be perfect.
Way back in the day, well before this MLB group (?) I thought the best idea (in comparison) was the combined casino/ballpark entertainment area south of PDX. It's been a while, but somewhere near Langdon Farms? Pretty sure it was Tribe/State based??
Or am I dreaming it was proposed??
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Post by p8nted on Jan 31, 2024 19:48:46 GMT -8
I can't imagine that area hosting 20-30k plus. The "redtail" property is City of PDX owned, annexed to Beaverton. It's in a cluster eff area already. How in the world are they going to feed a stadium off 217 and those other surrounding smaller roads? Yeah I heard Canzano talking about it on the radio earlier and that was also one of my first thoughts with the traffic situation ... and also the houses that surround that golf course I am sure the neighbors would raise holy hell having a big loud stadium replacing that course. Yep. There is no real way to manage large crowds driving in and out of that area. Maybe 217 to HALL and turn in there by Target? 210 up alongside the golf course is not really expandable.
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Post by beavaristotle on Jan 31, 2024 19:51:31 GMT -8
As I recall it, the tribe offered to build a stadium in wood village (6 miles east of PDX)for the city in exchange for the rights to build a casino in Portland proper. But following a long tradition of idiot politicians in Portland, it was turned down.
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Post by ftd on Feb 1, 2024 14:02:35 GMT -8
I seem to recall a proposal from the last time we did this to use the Memorial Coliseum property. Keep the glass sides and have the filed point to the downtown skyline. Yes the issue is it on national register of historical places, and is a 'memorial'.
Good transit to the area from all directions. Lloyd center would be good too, but an affordable housing sector would be better for the LC
Also if Portland gets a pro team...Seattle would want on too! (old seahawk joke)
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Post by cake on Feb 1, 2024 18:01:05 GMT -8
As I recall it, the tribe offered to build a stadium in wood village (6 miles east of PDX)for the city in exchange for the rights to build a casino in Portland proper. But following a long tradition of idiot politicians in Portland, it was turned down. Yeah, at the old greyhound track.
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