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Post by markarmour04 on Jan 28, 2024 20:21:12 GMT -8
I am posting this after one of the best performances of the Rueck era and one of the best weekends in recent memory. So forgive me.
If what we saw from Gardner and Hunter this weekend represents their new levels, and the Beavers remain healthy, then this is a Top 10 team going forward. Both played like confident all-conference players. That would give the Beavers four star-level players, and several other good players behind them. That will compete with just about anyone.
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Post by rgeorge on Jan 28, 2024 20:33:00 GMT -8
Great weekend. It was at home. Pac12 is too good to state anything but...
- the team(s) that win upper tier road games will be the top 4 seeds;
- there are about 9 teams that can beat anyone at home;
- there's a crap load of basketball left;
I can see this team go anywhere from 9-9 to 12-6... 3rd to 6th. Just can't lose a single game you're not suppose to.
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Post by Werebeaver on Jan 28, 2024 20:38:19 GMT -8
I am posting this after one of the best performances of the Rueck era and one of the best weekends in recent memory. So forgive me. If what we saw from Gardner and Hunter this weekend represents their new levels, and the Beavers remain healthy, then this is a Top 10 team going forward. Both played like confident all-conference players. That would give the Beavers four star-level players, and several other good players behind them. That will compete with just about anyone. Time will tell. It is intriguing to note that the NCAA West Regionals are in Portland, OR this year.
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Post by beaverwbb fan on Jan 28, 2024 20:48:53 GMT -8
Oregon game at MKA will be difficult I’d imagine. Kyei has been playing very well lately and Civil War sweeps have been very rare. Even when Oregon has been the better team (aside from Ionescu’s senior year) OSU has found a way to split.
We should beat Cal at home but every other game could go either way. UCLA is very beatable at home without Betts.
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Post by bvrbooster on Jan 28, 2024 21:09:45 GMT -8
Oregon game at MKA will be difficult I’d imagine. Kyei has been playing very well lately and Civil War sweeps have been very rare. Even when Oregon has been the better team (aside from Ionescu’s senior year) OSU has found a way to split. We should beat Cal at home but every other game could go either way. UCLA is very beatable at home without Betts. Betts got hurt? What happened?
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Post by believeinthebeavs on Jan 28, 2024 21:18:18 GMT -8
We are better than some posters on here want to believe. Guess it's more fun for them to knock a team than to believe in them.
3 losses all to top 10 (at the time) opponents on their home courts. 1 could have easily gone either way and the other two were by no means blow outs. Next time they are on our court, Gill has a well deserved reputation of a court that is hard for visitors to win on.
As long as we stay healthy we can win any game. This team is getting better every game and no one knows their ceiling.
And I realize that there are those here that think Rueck can't win with his program. He had a couple of tough years where he lost important players to the portal. Now he has a team that is very close, similar to the ncaa runs in the teens. We will find out a lot about his program at the end of the season.
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Post by rgeorge on Jan 28, 2024 21:22:15 GMT -8
Oregon game at MKA will be difficult I’d imagine. Kyei has been playing very well lately and Civil War sweeps have been very rare. Even when Oregon has been the better team (aside from Ionescu’s senior year) OSU has found a way to split. We should beat Cal at home but every other game could go either way. UCLA is very beatable at home without Betts. Betts got hurt? What happened? Betts missed both games up north... undisclosed. But, sounds like WSU lost Leger-Walker for the season?! Coach says MRI will tell, but didn't look good. That's too bad for the young lady. It also sounded like she was leaving WSU to go to play for her NZ national team Feb 8th... Olympic qualifying tournament. Not sure if/when she would have returned...
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Post by believeinthebeavs on Jan 28, 2024 22:38:33 GMT -8
Betts got hurt? What happened? Betts missed both games up north... undisclosed. But, sounds like WSU lost Leger-Walker for the season?! Coach says MRI will tell, but didn't look good. That's too bad for the young lady. It also sounded like she was leaving WSU to go to play for her NZ national team Feb 8th... Olympic qualifying tournament. Not sure if/when she would have returned... It seems like every year the worn down injures start about half way through the season. I really hate to see it happen no matter who it is or what team they play for.
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Post by rgeorge on Jan 28, 2024 22:52:31 GMT -8
Betts missed both games up north... undisclosed. But, sounds like WSU lost Leger-Walker for the season?! Coach says MRI will tell, but didn't look good. That's too bad for the young lady. It also sounded like she was leaving WSU to go to play for her NZ national team Feb 8th... Olympic qualifying tournament. Not sure if/when she would have returned... It seems like every year the worn down injures start about half way through the season. I really hate to see it happen no matter who it is or what team they play for. And really why personally I don't care about rankings and such too much. It all plays out come Pac12 tourney time. Effing injuries are the one huge factor that no one can see or wants. As you said for anyone/team. But, unfortunately part of athletics and part of what some teams have to try to overcome. Hoping her MRI comes back with some good news.
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Post by wbosh15 on Jan 29, 2024 8:19:51 GMT -8
It seems like every year the worn down injures start about half way through the season. I really hate to see it happen no matter who it is or what team they play for. And really why personally I don't care about rankings and such too much. It all plays out come Pac12 tourney time. Effing injuries are the one huge factor that no one can see or wants. As you said for anyone/team. But, unfortunately part of athletics and part of what some teams have to try to overcome. Hoping her MRI comes back with some good news. Exactly, don't worry about rankings. Step 1 - Try to earn the bye in the Pac-12 tournament. Step 2 - Try to get a top 16 seed in the NCAA and earn the home games in Gill. Do those things and the rankings will take care of themselves.
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Post by beavfan14 on Jan 29, 2024 9:25:58 GMT -8
I don't understand the "rankings don't matter" arguement. Yes they do. If OSU was 20-5 or whatever but not ranked at the end of the year, do you really think east coast voters are going to care about them and give them a regional? "Play the season and the rankings will take care of themselves." That's exactly what they're doing. It's an indicator of just that, how well they are doing and improving. We are 18th this week, that will catch the eyes of all the voters and can only help them improve their chances of hosting the first two rounds. Unranked right now, and I guarantee no one cares about Oregon State outside of Corvallis. And heaven forbid, the players get rewarded for the hard work and dedication to basketball. You don't think they appreciate the rankings? Will they play less hard now because they're ranked, ah no. Will they suddenly get full of themselves and not work towards being top 15 next week, or maybe higher? ah no. "It only matters at the end." Not true at all, play like crap all year and are unranked, you have no "end of the year" to play for. Rankings are extremely important throughout the year, and geez a little fun also. This is still just a game for college students, why not let them revel in the idea that people recognize their hard work. None of these players are going to relax because they reached #18. If we lose in the first round of the NCAA tourney or make the final four, it has NOTHING to do with being ranked in the middle of the season, so just enjoy the recognition and that our name is out there now. We are the ESPN team of the week, does that not matter either? It only matters if we are the team of the week at the end? Of course the utlimate goal is a final four and a championship. But really, let this team feel good about themselves, give them motivation for more. I for one am proud of this team for being top 20 and am excited for what they can accomplish in the rest of the season.
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Post by Werebeaver on Jan 29, 2024 9:28:11 GMT -8
I don't understand the "rankings don't matter" arguement. Yes they do. If OSU was 20-5 or whatever but not ranked at the end of the year, do you really think east coast voters are going to care about them and give them a regional? "Play the season and the rankings will take care of themselves." That's exactly what they're doing. It's an indicator of just that, how well they are doing and improving. We are 18th this week, that will catch the eyes of all the voters and can only help them improve their chances of hosting the first two rounds. Unranked right now, and I guarantee no one cares about Oregon State outside of Corvallis. And heaven forbid, the players get rewarded for the hard work and dedication to basketball. You don't think they appreciate the rankings? Will they play less hard now because they're ranked, ah no. Will they suddenly get full of themselves and not work towards being top 15 next week, or maybe higher? ah no. "It only matters at the end." Not true at all, play like crap all year and are unranked, you have no "end of the year" to play for. Rankings are extremely important throughout the year, and geez a little fun also. This is still just a game for college students, why not let them revel in the idea that people recognize their hard work. None of these players are going to relax because they reached #18. If we lose in the first round of the NCAA tourney or make the final four, it has NOTHING to do with being ranked in the middle of the season, so just enjoy the recognition and that our name is out there now. We are the ESPN team of the week, does that not matter either? It only matters if we are the team of the week at the end? Of course the utlimate goal is a final four and a championship. But really, let this team feel good about themselves, give them motivation for more. I for one am proud of this team for being top 20 and am excited for what they can accomplish in the rest of the season. Nothing like that first cup of coffee in the morning. Go Beavs!
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Post by rgeorge on Jan 29, 2024 10:00:18 GMT -8
I don't understand the "rankings don't matter" arguement. Yes they do. If OSU was 20-5 or whatever but not ranked at the end of the year, do you really think east coast voters are going to care about them and give them a regional? "Play the season and the rankings will take care of themselves." That's exactly what they're doing. It's an indicator of just that, how well they are doing and improving. We are 18th this week, that will catch the eyes of all the voters and can only help them improve their chances of hosting the first two rounds. Unranked right now, and I guarantee no one cares about Oregon State outside of Corvallis. And heaven forbid, the players get rewarded for the hard work and dedication to basketball. You don't think they appreciate the rankings? Will they play less hard now because they're ranked, ah no. Will they suddenly get full of themselves and not work towards being top 15 next week, or maybe higher? ah no. "It only matters at the end." Not true at all, play like crap all year and are unranked, you have no "end of the year" to play for. Rankings are extremely important throughout the year, and geez a little fun also. This is still just a game for college students, why not let them revel in the idea that people recognize their hard work. None of these players are going to relax because they reached #18. If we lose in the first round of the NCAA tourney or make the final four, it has NOTHING to do with being ranked in the middle of the season, so just enjoy the recognition and that our name is out there now. We are the ESPN team of the week, does that not matter either? It only matters if we are the team of the week at the end? Of course the utlimate goal is a final four and a championship. But really, let this team feel good about themselves, give them motivation for more. I for one am proud of this team for being top 20 and am excited for what they can accomplish in the rest of the season. A bit over the skis there "14". There was no "argument". Two posters stated personal opinions. That in the whole scheme of "team" selection its where you stand come the beginning of March, not where you happened to be ranked today. The remainder of your post seems to be some wild interpretation that has zero merit.
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Post by lavrentyyb on Jan 29, 2024 10:37:50 GMT -8
I don't understand the "rankings don't matter" arguement. Yes they do. If OSU was 20-5 or whatever but not ranked at the end of the year, do you really think east coast voters are going to care about them and give them a regional? "Play the season and the rankings will take care of themselves." That's exactly what they're doing. It's an indicator of just that, how well they are doing and improving. We are 18th this week, that will catch the eyes of all the voters and can only help them improve their chances of hosting the first two rounds. Unranked right now, and I guarantee no one cares about Oregon State outside of Corvallis. And heaven forbid, the players get rewarded for the hard work and dedication to basketball. You don't think they appreciate the rankings? Will they play less hard now because they're ranked, ah no. Will they suddenly get full of themselves and not work towards being top 15 next week, or maybe higher? ah no. "It only matters at the end." Not true at all, play like crap all year and are unranked, you have no "end of the year" to play for. Rankings are extremely important throughout the year, and geez a little fun also. This is still just a game for college students, why not let them revel in the idea that people recognize their hard work. None of these players are going to relax because they reached #18. If we lose in the first round of the NCAA tourney or make the final four, it has NOTHING to do with being ranked in the middle of the season, so just enjoy the recognition and that our name is out there now. We are the ESPN team of the week, does that not matter either? It only matters if we are the team of the week at the end? Of course the utlimate goal is a final four and a championship. But really, let this team feel good about themselves, give them motivation for more. I for one am proud of this team for being top 20 and am excited for what they can accomplish in the rest of the season. White space is our friend.
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Post by beavfan14 on Jan 29, 2024 10:45:25 GMT -8
I don't understand the "rankings don't matter" arguement. Yes they do. If OSU was 20-5 or whatever but not ranked at the end of the year, do you really think east coast voters are going to care about them and give them a regional? "Play the season and the rankings will take care of themselves." That's exactly what they're doing. It's an indicator of just that, how well they are doing and improving. We are 18th this week, that will catch the eyes of all the voters and can only help them improve their chances of hosting the first two rounds. Unranked right now, and I guarantee no one cares about Oregon State outside of Corvallis. And heaven forbid, the players get rewarded for the hard work and dedication to basketball. You don't think they appreciate the rankings? Will they play less hard now because they're ranked, ah no. Will they suddenly get full of themselves and not work towards being top 15 next week, or maybe higher? ah no. "It only matters at the end." Not true at all, play like crap all year and are unranked, you have no "end of the year" to play for. Rankings are extremely important throughout the year, and geez a little fun also. This is still just a game for college students, why not let them revel in the idea that people recognize their hard work. None of these players are going to relax because they reached #18. If we lose in the first round of the NCAA tourney or make the final four, it has NOTHING to do with being ranked in the middle of the season, so just enjoy the recognition and that our name is out there now. We are the ESPN team of the week, does that not matter either? It only matters if we are the team of the week at the end? Of course the utlimate goal is a final four and a championship. But really, let this team feel good about themselves, give them motivation for more. I for one am proud of this team for being top 20 and am excited for what they can accomplish in the rest of the season. A bit over the skis there "14". There was no "argument". Two posters stated personal opinions. That in the whole scheme of "team" selection its where you stand come the beginning of March, not where you happened to be ranked today. The remainder of your post seems to be some wild interpretation that has zero merit. I have heard this opinion more then just two posters today. People say it for football, basketball, baseball whatever. So their opinions are just that, opinions, but mine has zero merit. Most of my post was about enjoying the ride, and letting the players enjoy their accomplishments and ranking. But yeah, zero merit, along with my opinion about your posts.
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