Tinkle replacement…

Robert "Bob" Hager coached Amory Tingle "Slats" Gill in Gill's Junior and Senior seasons.  After Gill graduated he coached in high school for a year and did something else for a second year before coming back to coach the freshman and also gymnastics in 1926.  After Bob Hager was fired in 1928, Gill was promoted to head coach.  Gill coached for the next 36 years, only taking some time off to recover from his heart attack in 1960.

Be still, my heart!

Beavers would be lucky to get a guy like Holtmann when Tinkle is finally shown the door. Seven straight NCAA tourney appearances with 2 different schools is a nice resume. Especially when factor in that 6 of those teams won a game, including a S16. He’s had two down years that combined are still better than Tinkle’s previous two seasons. My only hesitation with Holtmann would be his recruiting has been a bit up and down, and have to consider how much of his success has been on the back of his predecessors’ players. That said, he did pretty well with them except for the Oral Roberts loss.

The 3 pots from which Tinkle’s replacement will come are top assistant from a top school, HC at a mid-majorish school or a HC at a P4 school that has been let go. I want nothing to do with the first, but depending on the coach/circumstances I might prefer the third. Need to have someone who has dealt with portal and NIL is why I prefer a HC. Having dealt with those at a high level could be a plus for a school like Oregon State.

Wilky, Wilky, Wilky. Do you just write stuff hoping someone with knowledge on the subject won’t read it or someone won’t do a little simple research?

He can’t recruit? While at OSU he brought in classes ranked 8, 12, 14, 27 and 29 — and two classes in the 40s. In the two down HS recruiting years he brought in the number 3 and 4 transfer classes. Tinkle’s top class during that time was 43 and that was in large part because of Ethan that it was that high. I wish Tinkle could “not recruit” as well as Holtmann.

Program killer? Butler was 14-17 the year before Holtmann took ever (he didn’t directly follow Stevens), and he took them to 3 NCAA tournaments. OSU finished 10th in BIG the year before Holtmann arrived and only an NIT the year before that. Holtmann then took the Buckeyes to 4 straight NCAA tournaments and was 21-10 the Covid no tourney year. I hope the next Beavers coach kills the program like that.

And the whole west coast is different is a bunch of cr@p. Maybe 20 years ago. Top coaches recruit nationally. The guy at WA who basically spent his whole life at Syracuse has had no problems recruiting to west coast. He’s had other issues but recruiting hasn’t been one of them. So sure a lot of Holtmann’s recruits have been from Ohio or nearby states, but why wouldn’t they be. It’s fertile bball land. But over the last few years he’s had a couple recruits from CA (both of whom likely would have led the Beavers respective recruiting classes) and a top 50 recruit from UT.

Oregon State's budget is less than half of Ohio State's now. Ohio State is paying the full $12.8 million buyout to fire Holtmann.  It is amazing the standards that you can afford to have with the 15th-largest budget in the country.

There is no doubt Ohio State has a huge advantage over Oregon State budget wise. And for that reason, I’ve resigned myself to the fact Tinkle will very likely be the coach next year if not beyond. Hopefully Barnes and company realize keeping Tinkle into “if not beyond” is being penny wise and pound foolish, but who knows.

As depressing as all that is, it pales in comparison for me to the “we’ve been bad for 35 years, Tinkle is the best we can do” crowd. Of course that is quickly followed by every type of justification known to man to try and show Tinkle’s tenure hasn’t been bad overall. And let’s not forget the no decent coach will take the job argument. It’s to the point now that my reaction to that is So? If people think the guy who is on the brink of having the worst 3-year record in school history is even close to a decent coach in today’s college basketball landscape, lack of funding for program isn’t the biggest hurdle to overcome.

I wonder how much Tinkle complains about lack of resources these days. He has to know if the program was funded better, he’d be out on his a$$ after this season. Guessing his motto these days is Head Down, Show Up, Collect Big Bag of Money, Repeat as Often as They’ll Let Me.

Tinkle should never complain about resources. He is on the upper end of pac12 coaching salaries.