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Post by rgeorge on Jan 5, 2024 23:24:50 GMT -8
We can disagree...
But, Juju shoots 45/44/79 with 7 boards, 2.5 steals, 2 blocks. As a true frosh with really not a lot of other perimeter talent. She has to carry this team, and is.
Beers got away with two elbow hooks to Davis' neck to start the 4th. Beers is very undisciplined at times. Every foul she may not deserve she gets away with a lot of bumps and hooks too. She needs to be smarter as a team leader. She puts herself in bad situations at times.
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Post by grayman on Jan 5, 2024 23:41:23 GMT -8
No, I wouldn't want Juju on my team. Not because of any supposed attitude problem or whatever. It would be hugely boring. She just gets the ball, goes into mid range and shoots, making 30% of her shots. I think she tried to drive three times and made one. Her blocks reminded me of Sasha wherein her speed and agility could take people by surprise and that was cool. But otherwise no, I like basketball because it's a team game. If the Beav's started to shove the ball to one player and stood there waiting to see if she wins the game or not, I would stop coming to their games. I don't think the officiating was particularly bad, but the foul on Beers when she was steamrolled by the USC player was a bit bizarre. Two of the three fouls were pretty bad calls, IMO. She had to spend way too much time on the bench and it did affect how the Beavers were able to operate on offense.
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Post by scottybooks on Jan 6, 2024 6:39:41 GMT -8
Two strategic choices:
It's Timea time, she needs to start.
And Scott needs to change his long-practiced two-fouls-you-sit policy: I'd rather see Raegan with five fouls and 30 minutes than three fouls and less than 20. He stole hundreds of minutes from the incomparable Mikayla Pivec with a too quick hook.
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Post by lotrader on Jan 6, 2024 6:47:40 GMT -8
Great game. OSU WBB next milestone is to win on the road in PAC-12. There were a lot of positives in this game. Hunter was outstanding! Love to see Dono take some big time shots and make them--especially as the shot clock was expiring. Hunter is truly a star in the making. Timea's rebounding was fantastic. TvO had an awesome first 3 quarters but then settled on too many NBA length 3-pointers that didn't fall. I thought our defense on JuJu was pretty darn good. 11 for 33 is not great. If USC's Padilla hadn't made her incredible 3-pointers we had this in the bag.
Now for the things that need improving: Kelsey Rees needs to be quicker with her decision making when she catches in the post. Multiple times when Rees caught the ball near the basket she hesitated and all she had to do was turn and shoot (either get fouled or make it). Other times she needs to make a quick pass to another Beaver for a clean shot. Too many times the ball stalled when it went into Kelsey. I would like to see more Lily, as I think Lily is a quiet big time player. Coaches had Martha give Dono a breather. Martha really needs to get in the gym and work on creating space for her outside shot. Martha had opportunities but it seemed Martha took the shot late and her shot was always under duress.
Was surprised Kennedie didn't play, but possibly going to play a lot vs UCLA's quicker guards.
All-in-all, OSU is not a pushover anymore. I believe with the character of this team, road wins are coming. Let's hope our first is Sunday. GO BEAVS!
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Post by Henry Skrimshander on Jan 6, 2024 11:34:42 GMT -8
Holy crap, 11-for-33, that's Jamie Redd territory, she was an absolute ball-hogging gunner. Juju needed 38 shots (33 from the field, five from the line) to get 28 points, that's atrocious. I remember Kat Tudor having 34 points on only 23 total shots against Oregon one game.
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Post by Judge Smails on Jan 6, 2024 12:58:12 GMT -8
Holy crap, 11-for-33, that's Jamie Redd territory, she was an absolute ball-hogging gunner. Juju needed 38 shots (33 from the field, five from the line) to get 28 points, that's atrocious. I remember Kat Tudor having 34 points on only 23 total shots against Oregon one game. Who won? That’s all that matters.
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Post by grayman on Jan 6, 2024 13:39:42 GMT -8
Holy crap, 11-for-33, that's Jamie Redd territory, she was an absolute ball-hogging gunner. Juju needed 38 shots (33 from the field, five from the line) to get 28 points, that's atrocious. I remember Kat Tudor having 34 points on only 23 total shots against Oregon one game. Who won? That’s all that matters. Well, OSU lost by two. So they played very well on the road against a pretty (maybe very) good team. If the Beavers had lost by 25, well... And improving a team is a work in progress, so looking at every game is important for the coaches and players. So it seems to me that there are a bunch of things that matter that come out of a game.
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Post by grayman on Jan 6, 2024 13:46:57 GMT -8
Great game. OSU WBB next milestone is to win on the road in PAC-12. There were a lot of positives in this game. Hunter was outstanding! Love to see Dono take some big time shots and make them--especially as the shot clock was expiring. Hunter is truly a star in the making. Timea's rebounding was fantastic. TvO had an awesome first 3 quarters but then settled on too many NBA length 3-pointers that didn't fall. I thought our defense on JuJu was pretty darn good. 11 for 33 is not great. If USC's Padilla hadn't made her incredible 3-pointers we had this in the bag. Now for the things that need improving: Kelsey Rees needs to be quicker with her decision making when she catches in the post. Multiple times when Rees caught the ball near the basket she hesitated and all she had to do was turn and shoot (either get fouled or make it). Other times she needs to make a quick pass to another Beaver for a clean shot. Too many times the ball stalled when it went into Kelsey. I would like to see more Lily, as I think Lily is a quiet big time player. Coaches had Martha give Dono a breather. Martha really needs to get in the gym and work on creating space for her outside shot. Martha had opportunities but it seemed Martha took the shot late and her shot was always under duress. Was surprised Kennedie didn't play, but possibly going to play a lot vs UCLA's quicker guards. All-in-all, OSU is not a pushover anymore. I believe with the character of this team, road wins are coming. Let's hope our first is Sunday. GO BEAVS! As far as Kennedie not playing (assuming she didn't have some sort of physical setback), I think it was more about some of the decisions she made as a ballhandler in the last game and maybe others. I seriously doubt that it has anything to do with her speed/quickness, especially when the option is Martha. I doubt that there's much difference between the two in that respect.
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Post by Werebeaver on Jan 6, 2024 14:27:32 GMT -8
No, I wouldn't want Juju on my team. Not because of any supposed attitude problem or whatever. It would be hugely boring. She just gets the ball, goes into mid range and shoots, making 30% of her shots. I think she tried to drive three times and made one. Her blocks reminded me of Sasha wherein her speed and agility could take people by surprise and that was cool. But otherwise no, I like basketball because it's a team game. If the Beav's started to shove the ball to one player and stood there waiting to see if she wins the game or not, I would stop coming to their games. I don't think the officiating was particularly bad, but the foul on Beers when she was steamrolled by the USC player was a bit bizarre. I think I could find a spot for her on the roster.
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Post by beaveragain on Jan 6, 2024 14:50:33 GMT -8
No, I wouldn't want Juju on my team. Not because of any supposed attitude problem or whatever. It would be hugely boring. She just gets the ball, goes into mid range and shoots, making 30% of her shots. I think she tried to drive three times and made one. Her blocks reminded me of Sasha wherein her speed and agility could take people by surprise and that was cool. But otherwise no, I like basketball because it's a team game. If the Beav's started to shove the ball to one player and stood there waiting to see if she wins the game or not, I would stop coming to their games. I don't think the officiating was particularly bad, but the foul on Beers when she was steamrolled by the USC player was a bit bizarre. I think I could find a spot for her on the roster. And I think Steph Curry would be a nice addition. But probably not.
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Post by rgeorge on Jan 6, 2024 15:19:23 GMT -8
Who won? That’s all that matters. Well, OSU lost by two. So they played very well on the road against a pretty (maybe very) good team. If the Beavers had lost by 25, well... And improving a team is a work in progress, so looking at every game is important for the coaches and players. So it seems to me that there are a bunch of things that matter that come out of a game. I'll say, and I know some will think it is disparaging the OSU effort... which it is not, but after seeing USC for the 3rd time I see them as vastly overrated. They have ONE outstanding talent. Some decent role players, and an overrated C in RM. I do not think they are deep, and can't see them being better than 12-6 in this conference. In addition I think they will struggle on the road in conference play as their team makeup (5 Grads) is not one that has played many games, let alone meaningful games together. If I had to guess, IF SC falters and isn't top 3 in the Pac12 with all the players they will lose (5 Grads and one SR), and with (5) G and (2) centers returning Juju could easily be one and done into the portal.
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Post by grayman on Jan 6, 2024 15:38:06 GMT -8
All I know is that Beers has to stay on the floor. TVO did a great job of picking up the slack as far as scoring but you combine the two when they're on and that's just so tough for opponents to deal with. Someone mentioned that Gardiner needs to start. I don't really think it's a matter of starting her but she needs to play more than 25 minutes against a team like USC. And Sunday against UCLA. I know she's been a work in progress and slowed some because of injury last season but I think it's time. And I can't say enough about how much Hunter has meant to this team so far.
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Post by Judge Smails on Jan 6, 2024 15:42:52 GMT -8
Who won? That’s all that matters. Well, OSU lost by two. So they played very well on the road against a pretty (maybe very) good team. If the Beavers had lost by 25, well... And improving a team is a work in progress, so looking at every game is important for the coaches and players. So it seems to me that there are a bunch of things that matter that come out of a game. Moral victory. Got it.
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Post by Henry Skrimshander on Jan 6, 2024 15:44:23 GMT -8
Holy crap, 11-for-33, that's Jamie Redd territory, she was an absolute ball-hogging gunner. Juju needed 38 shots (33 from the field, five from the line) to get 28 points, that's atrocious. I remember Kat Tudor having 34 points on only 23 total shots against Oregon one game. Who won? That’s all that matters. Yeah, I know. Just remarking that 11-for-33 is remarkably poor shooting and would be a quick way to become the most unpopular player on the team on any team I ever played for, should such performances continue.
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Post by Judge Smails on Jan 6, 2024 15:45:45 GMT -8
Who won? That’s all that matters. Yeah, I know. Just remarking that 11-for-33 is remarkably poor shooting and would be a quick way to become the most unpopular player on the team on any team I ever played for, should such performances continue. Depends on the team. She normally shoots a lot better percentage.
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