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Post by nabeav on Oct 22, 2015 10:09:35 GMT -8
The "new system" thing doesn't hold water, because regardless of the length of time a system has been in place, a young QB is going to be new to it. Collins was running read option in high school, wasn't he? It's not like Sean Canfield stepped onto campus knowing everything about Riley's system. I'll agree that there might not be a better option right now - with the legs/arm/mind combo Andersen is looking for, it would appear that Collins is the best in the legs dept, Mitchell maybe the best in the arm dept. and McMariyon maybe being the best combo of all three qualities, which isn't saying much because he's been pretty underwhelming in the few opportunities he's had. Young QBs make mistakes regardless of the system - it was seen as a negative trait of Riley coached teams, but I think that's a universal trait. Travis Wilson at Utah throws like his arm is broken, yet he's leading the nation in passing efficiency this year because he's had four years to develop. Nobody's knocking Willingham for not having him ready to go as a freshman or sophomore. Look at Kessler's development at USC, or Goff at California. These guys weren't great their first year or two, but are all pretty valuable after getting more playing time.
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Post by mountainbeaver on Oct 22, 2015 13:44:09 GMT -8
Seth will be a lot better next year after this years trial by fire. And if he's not, it's nice to know that we've got a guy who's ready in Garretson. I think Moran is pie in the sky at this point. I hope he's the real deal, but it's a huge jump from high school to div 1. This years has and will be brutal, but I think Anderson is doing things the right way. It seems like the guy who has never played for us is always the most popular player destined for greatness.
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Post by TheGlove on Oct 22, 2015 15:52:20 GMT -8
It seems like the guy who has never played for us is always the most popular player destined for greatness. Truth.
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Post by JimBeav on Oct 22, 2015 15:54:37 GMT -8
I was excited to see what Seth could do after he electrified everybody at the Spring Game, but I've had my doubts from day one.
This isn't just a normal QB transition from High School to College; this is a transition from a high school offense that almost never passed the ball.
I don't have Collins' high school stats handy, but I distinctly remember that if you divide his passing stats by the number of games he played, he only averaged 10 pass attempts per game, and completed 5. Or put another way, he averaged just a bit over 1 completion PER QUARTER his senior year in high school.
I raised questions about this when he first committed, but figured that this is what we'll need to get used to when recruiting hybrid quarterbacks. It also explains why nobody else wanted him at quarterback.
I'm looking forward to watching him play and grow the rest of the year, but I'm also looking forward to seeing what our options are next year...
GO BEAVS!
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Post by BeaverTailChaser on Oct 22, 2015 22:47:30 GMT -8
After watching preseason scrims and the spring game...I was not that thrilled with Collins as a real thrower. He is super athletic and fast...but in the PAC-12, I think it is more important to hit the receivers (especially our great group) on the money and let them run wild. I thought Garretson and Mitchell were 1 and 2 for getting the ball to people. They may be slower as runners...but their accuracy would open up the whole offense. That includes less stacked lines for Storm and company. PS: I wonder what could have been with Vanderveen or Del Rio....both good athletes...and fast enough to do some damage.
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Post by zebraworks on Oct 23, 2015 8:17:42 GMT -8
right tailchaser...if the QB can't throw all the throws it really shows (bottom dwellers)
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