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Post by rgeorge on Dec 28, 2023 16:57:16 GMT -8
Again my far removed post on tempering comments. The posts here about rated recruits and numerous about the ducks & Graves.
Graves, ducks... who cares for one.
But, if you're going to throw shade on a rival make sure it doesn't mirror your own program.
Highly rated recruits are just a start. Injuries, jelling as a unit, strength of conference, etc are all unknowns.
So some of the duck comments make our program look pretty bad when turned around. Especially... highly ranked recruits should equal wins.
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Post by nwhoopfan on Dec 28, 2023 16:57:34 GMT -8
MSU's # 0 is the type of point guard who would be excellent in our program. Quick, quick hands on defense, can drive and dish, break a press all by herself. We never seem to have a player of her ilk, although a player with her skill set would definitely help us. For all the grief Rueck received for signing Heide, it looks like a very smart move. She can give us a lot of valuable minutes off the bench and is not without skills. Injuries and poor coaching must have really held her back. Daniels has been an entirely different player at Washington than she was at Cal. Makes one wonder what they are doing as far as development of post players down there in Berkeley.
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Post by grayman on Dec 28, 2023 17:02:41 GMT -8
MSU's # 0 is the type of point guard who would be excellent in our program. Quick, quick hands on defense, can drive and dish, break a press all by herself. We never seem to have a player of her ilk, although a player with her skill set would definitely help us. For all the grief Rueck received for signing Heide, it looks like a very smart move. She can give us a lot of valuable minutes off the bench and is not without skills. Injuries and poor coaching must have really held her back. I think Hunter fits some of that but yeah, OSU really hasn't had a player like that, at least not under Rueck. I like Heide but it would mean bad news if she had to play significant minutes. A nice backup with really good touch, not to mention her height and length, both major weapons on defense.
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Post by rgeorge on Dec 28, 2023 17:09:19 GMT -8
MSU's # 0 is the type of point guard who would be excellent in our program. Quick, quick hands on defense, can drive and dish, break a press all by herself. We never seem to have a player of her ilk, although a player with her skill set would definitely help us. For all the grief Rueck received for signing Heide, it looks like a very smart move. She can give us a lot of valuable minutes off the bench and is not without skills. Injuries and poor coaching must have really held her back. Daniels has been an entirely different player at Washington than she was at Cal. Makes one wonder what they are doing as far as development of post players down there in Berkeley. Wonder if Cal fan thinks the same in reverse since they beat OSU with far less talent on the roster? Sometimes a coach, a system, a fresh start is what turns a player around.
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Post by grayman on Dec 28, 2023 17:09:49 GMT -8
Again my far removed post on tempering comments. The posts here about rated recruits and numerous about the ducks & Graves. Graves, ducks... who cares for one. But, if you're going to throw shade on a rival make sure it doesn't mirror your own program. Highly rated recruits are just a start. Injuries, jelling as a unit, strength of conference, etc are all unknowns. So some of the duck comments make our program look pretty bad when turned around. Especially... highly ranked recruits should equal wins. Well, we all know that recruiting rankings tell just a part of the story. But I think in women's basketball, they might tend to be a little more accurate than, say, football. Of course you can't control injuries or whether or not a player would want to stay, etc. Rueck does a very good job of filling in with 3 star players and foreign players (which don't even get rated). I think when you get down to 3 star players, there might not be much difference between someone like Hunter or Blacklock and a lot of 4 star types.
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Post by ag87 on Dec 28, 2023 17:11:47 GMT -8
Pro football Hall of Famer, Leroy Kelly played for Morgan State, WAAAAAYY before the turn of the century……. Sounds WICKED to put it that way. As did former NBA center Marvin Webster. The Human Eraser?
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Post by Werebeaver on Dec 28, 2023 17:19:28 GMT -8
MSU's # 0 is the type of point guard who would be excellent in our program. Quick, quick hands on defense, can drive and dish, break a press all by herself. We never seem to have a player of her ilk, although a player with her skill set would definitely help us. For all the grief Rueck received for signing Heide, it looks like a very smart move. She can give us a lot of valuable minutes off the bench and is not without skills. Injuries and poor coaching must have really held her back. She got her degree and was apparently looking for a change of scenery. I'm glad Sela's a Beav. It's in her blood.
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Post by TheGlove on Dec 28, 2023 17:21:07 GMT -8
Is it too much to ask for a livestream that doesn't have some sort of sound issue? I mean, every time. Mine had a ticking noise.
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Post by finleybandbeav on Dec 28, 2023 17:30:56 GMT -8
I thought Heide looked great out there today. In just 9 minutes of PT, she was really filling the stat sheet. Poised, good hands, maximizing her height w/rebounds, blocks, and offensive put backs - gotta love it.
Two points combined from starters TVO and AJ was not good, but the bench made up for it. Blacklock did her sharpshooting, and Dom's 7 assists as a reserve is not something you see very often, to say the least. I wish Lily had a few more chances to iron out her shot more before conference play. Timea looked great, Don looked great, and what else can you say about Beers?
The Ducks may land higher-ranked players overall, but who cares? Many of them leave to get away from that coach, and the Sabrina days are long gone.
I honestly believe they are ready to make some significant conference waves, starting this Sunday in Gill.
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Post by Werebeaver on Dec 28, 2023 17:33:34 GMT -8
Again my far removed post on tempering comments. The posts here about rated recruits and numerous about the ducks & Graves. Graves, ducks... who cares for one. But, if you're going to throw shade on a rival make sure it doesn't mirror your own program. Highly rated recruits are just a start. Injuries, jelling as a unit, strength of conference, etc are all unknowns. So some of the duck comments make our program look pretty bad when turned around. Especially... highly ranked recruits should equal wins. God save us from insufficently tempered sports message board comments.
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Post by beaverwbb fan on Dec 28, 2023 18:37:21 GMT -8
I view the Civil War as a tossup. Since Ionescu left, despite Oregon having considerably more talent and performing better in the Pac-12 and post season, OSU has a 4-3 record against Oregon. OSU usually won the second matchup as Oregon seemed to slide late the past few years.
Oregon will have a pretty large size advantage. OSU will have to control the glass and shoot it well from outside (two things UO doesn't do well).
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Post by bdudbeaver on Dec 28, 2023 19:15:33 GMT -8
We need to beat the Ducks. We need to go 12-8 (are there 20 games?) or about that in Pac-12 play, so winning this is crucial to start. Record of at least 23-8 or 22-7 or whatever heading into the tournament. Anything less for this team is a letdown, for the talent. A good deep bench is nice, but the leaders must lead, rather than everyone waiting for someone else to step up.
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Post by rgeorge on Dec 28, 2023 19:27:49 GMT -8
We need to beat the Ducks. We need to go 12-8 (are there 20 games?) or about that in Pac-12 play, so winning this is crucial to start. Record of at least 23-8 or 22-7 or whatever heading into the tournament. Anything less for this team is a letdown, for the talent. A good deep bench is nice, but the leaders must lead, rather than everyone waiting for someone else to step up. Only 18 games for the women.
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Post by bmoc on Dec 28, 2023 19:30:35 GMT -8
I was at the game. Nice crowd for a Thursday afternoon during Christmas break. We definitely out”bigged” them. My concern: 19 turnovers.
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Post by believeinthebeavs on Dec 28, 2023 19:35:59 GMT -8
I view the Civil War as a tossup. Since Ionescu left, despite Oregon having considerably more talent and performing better in the Pac-12 and post season, OSU has a 4-3 record against Oregon. OSU usually won the second matchup as Oregon seemed to slide late the past few years. Oregon will have a pretty large size advantage. OSU will have to control the glass and shoot it well from outside (two things UO doesn't do well). We went 4-4 in the i years. Commendable record if you ask me.
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