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Post by Werebeaver on Dec 21, 2023 7:34:18 GMT -8
Here's the score by quarters: 1st 21-8 2nd 43-22 3rd 58-38 4th 77-65 We got outscored in the 3rd and 4th quarter. I appreciate the win, but allowing an opponent to mount a comeback is not what we want to see in preparation for conference play. We've "tested" well against Villanova and Santa Clara, but I think the SAT's are coming (and to quote Kurt Russell in Tombstone...."hell's coming with me"). doomgloomdoomgloomdoomgloom….
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bmoc
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Post by bmoc on Dec 21, 2023 7:48:55 GMT -8
I'm Irish. With the first pint you get "appreciate the win" and "tested well against Villanova and Santa Clara". Second pint and you get "Mother England is coming to crush us under the heel of their boot."
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Post by rmancarl on Dec 21, 2023 9:27:44 GMT -8
So the Beavs had a rough time against the press. I was thrilled that both teams this week pressed to some extent and really harassed our guards last night. The is very good for the Beavs. They will learn a ton from this. I do think the refs completely messed up both games. While pressing, Texas Tech sometimes beat the Beavs up without getting fouls called. That's ok. Another learning experience. You never know how an official is going to call a game, and you have to be ready for every possibility.
Overall, I thought it was a fantastic game for the Beavs. Every time it looked like Tech would make a run, one of the Beavs would hit a 3. Where did that good 3pt shooting come from? I enjoyed the game, but no, I wasn't thrilled with the closing, but it doesn't concern me in the long run. The Beavs will come up with ways to break the press/double teams better. I'm glad Dono and Kennedie got to see what it is like.
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beav74
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Post by beav74 on Dec 21, 2023 10:04:34 GMT -8
If I was the coach....I would have gone to a 4 guard lineup of Hunter, Shuler, Martha and TVO along with Beers. Maybe not the high scoring offensive lineup but they had a 24+ lead. Just needed to protect the ball! But maybe this is why I'm not the coach! And inbounding the ball to the corner is a TO waiting to happen!
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Post by beavsteve on Dec 21, 2023 10:21:49 GMT -8
So the Beavs had a rough time against the press. I was thrilled that both teams this week pressed to some extent and really harassed our guards last night. The is very good for the Beavs. They will learn a ton from this. I do think the refs completely messed up both games. While pressing, Texas Tech sometimes beat the Beavs up without getting fouls called. That's ok. Another learning experience. You never know how an official is going to call a game, and you have to be ready for every possibility. Overall, I thought it was a fantastic game for the Beavs. Every time it looked like Tech would make a run, one of the Beavs would hit a 3. Where did that good 3pt shooting come from? I enjoyed the game, but no, I wasn't thrilled with the closing, but it doesn't concern me in the long run. The Beavs will come up with ways to break the press/double teams better. I'm glad Dono and Kennedie got to see what it is like. If you watch the warmups you know that many of our players can shoot very well - they just need time and need to relax a bit during gametime shots. My impression was that he difference last night was that most of those shots were much more wide-open than usual.
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Post by grayman on Dec 21, 2023 10:38:15 GMT -8
Yeah, I'm not sure that a strong conclusion about OSU's ability to handle pressure can be made from this game. I saw a couple of bad passes and maybe not enough immediate help when a teammate is being double-teamed. But the officials allowed way, way, way too much contact. Yeah, you have to find a way to deal with it but sometimes it becomes impossible when you're getting grabbed or pushed or hit on the arm or bumped constantly. Hunter looked really good handling the ball against one on one pressure. So did TVO. I noticed this in the last couple of games. When TVO does bring the ball down the court, she has looked solid in doing so. I've been critical of her ballhandling skills in the past but it looks like she's gotten better. I also think she looks like she has gained a step of quickness. And I'm not talking about compared to last year but earlier in her career. She's still not going to blow by people in full court sprints but it looks like she's been putting in a lot of work.
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Post by rmancarl on Dec 21, 2023 10:57:50 GMT -8
Obviously, Kennedie struggled a bit with the press. Had she used her speed and kept going into the front court, she probably would have avoided a couple issues, but she slowed up, allowed herself to become double teamed, and then trouble ensued. I'm really glad that Aleah is a coach on this team. Not that any of the other coaches couldn't work with the guards, but I think Aleah is the perfect fit to work with them. Aleah wasn't the quickest guard on the court, but she was smart and she learned a lot about dealing with the press. I have a feeling the guards are going to get a lot of practice in this area, and I really think we'll see a lot of improvement.
This was really the first time though that I remember thinking "we really need to get Donovyn back on the court". I'm really curious to see how the minutes per game changes as we get into Pac12 play.
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Post by grayman on Dec 21, 2023 11:32:58 GMT -8
Obviously, Kennedie struggled a bit with the press. Had she used her speed and kept going into the front court, she probably would have avoided a couple issues, but she slowed up, allowed herself to become double teamed, and then trouble ensued. I'm really glad that Aleah is a coach on this team. Not that any of the other coaches couldn't work with the guards, but I think Aleah is the perfect fit to work with them. Aleah wasn't the quickest guard on the court, but she was smart and she learned a lot about dealing with the press. I have a feeling the guards are going to get a lot of practice in this area, and I really think we'll see a lot of improvement. This was really the first time though that I remember thinking "we really need to get Donovyn back on the court". I'm really curious to see how the minutes per game changes as we get into Pac12 play. I'm not too concerned about Shuler...it's not a matter of ballhandling or lack of quickness, etc. She'll figure it out.
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Post by osu82 on Dec 21, 2023 11:46:47 GMT -8
Beavs just made some basic mistakes with the press, inbounding to the corners being one, or hesitating after the inbound pass and then the double arrives, etc. They did a nice job that one time with the pass and got an easy lay up at the other end (Dom, I think). Burn the press a few times and it goes away.
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Post by greybeav on Dec 21, 2023 17:41:13 GMT -8
Beavs just made some basic mistakes with the press, inbounding to the corners being one, or hesitating after the inbound pass and then the double arrives, etc. They did a nice job that one time with the pass and got an easy lay up at the other end (Dom, I think). Burn the press a few times and it goes away. Well put, and that play with Dom, reminded me of Jaz Simmons always first down the court and waiting for someone to see her, Dom is doing some of that also. Smart player with good all-around physical skills.
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Post by Henry Skrimshander on Dec 21, 2023 20:36:16 GMT -8
Obviously we're not undefeated enough. We should be better undefeated.
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Post by Werebeaver on Dec 21, 2023 21:02:48 GMT -8
Obviously we're not undefeated enough. We should be better undefeated. We lost too many quarters.
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Post by jimbob on Dec 21, 2023 21:30:19 GMT -8
Obviously, Kennedie struggled a bit with the press. Had she used her speed and kept going into the front court, she probably would have avoided a couple issues, but she slowed up, allowed herself to become double teamed, and then trouble ensued. I'm really glad that Aleah is a coach on this team. Not that any of the other coaches couldn't work with the guards, but I think Aleah is the perfect fit to work with them. Aleah wasn't the quickest guard on the court, but she was smart and she learned a lot about dealing with the press. I have a feeling the guards are going to get a lot of practice in this area, and I really think we'll see a lot of improvement. This was really the first time though that I remember thinking "we really need to get Donovyn back on the court". I'm really curious to see how the minutes per game changes as we get into Pac12 play. Well if Dono continues to shoot like she did in this game---6/10 FG and 3/5 3 pt---I'm thinking she will command 80+% of the pg minutes come Pac12 time. She had been a bit tentative with her outside shooting up until this game including passing up some open looks, but in this game when she was open she took the shot and looked confident in doing so and with good results---fingers crossed that she can keep this up!
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Post by believeinthebeavs on Dec 21, 2023 21:44:21 GMT -8
Last year we would have lost this game. This year we walk away with a win and a game to build on. I bet they learned a lot and will be better prepared next time.
Two things I don't understand. If a player is two feet from the out of bounds line and you physically push them over the line it's a turnover but if you push them in the middle of the court it's a foul. And why when you run a trap it's OK to slap the other player's arms but if it's 1 on 1 it will often be called a foul.
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Post by Werebeaver on Dec 22, 2023 11:43:24 GMT -8
Lots to like here:
1. Dono’s absolute dart of a post entry pass. 2. Raegan’s positioning (strength) and setup (finesse) of her defender who was in decent defensive position. 3. Finishing through hard contact.
What else can you say? Must be fun to have her as your teammate. (PS. Can’t imagine what TT’s Mulkey-wannabe HC thought the refs missed on that)
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