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Post by badwack on Nov 20, 2023 18:53:06 GMT -8
Not much fun knowing the Beav's are hanging by finger nail over the Cliff. Just one or two moves and the whole damn thing blows up. Smith and Crew go no reason for a number of players not to go. Just one friggen mess.
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Post by Henry Skrimshander on Nov 20, 2023 19:16:39 GMT -8
I think Cal and Stanford are going to be far more despondent than us in the coming years. Their travel is going to be a nightmare and really, who is going to be fired up about home football games against Pitt, Syracuse, BC, SMU and Wake Forest?
I think the four new Big Ten teams will find out that league is not all that and a bag of chips. Especially the winter and spring (if there is such a thing in the Midwest) teams.
I foresee a lot of winning ahead for us, with new destinations and new venues to explore and with new fanbases to meet.
Maybe I am being crazily optimistic. Guilty as charged, I've found it really beats the alternative.
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Post by speakthetruth on Nov 20, 2023 19:33:25 GMT -8
I wish I could be as optimistic as some. While former pac teams know exactly where they are going to be next year we have no clue what's on the horizon. Schedule? Nope. Tv? Nope. Coaches staying? Don't know. Sports cut? Don't know. Players staying? Leaving? Don't know. If I wanted a mystery I'd read a book
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Post by Werebeaver on Nov 20, 2023 19:45:40 GMT -8
First time I've gotten up the energy to look at this board. Haven't even wanted to think about Beaver football, and still don't. There is no "Maybe next year". This was it. And we blew it. As funny as it was to quote the line from Major League about winning the whole f'ing thing, the truth is, that is exactly what I wanted. Not only wanted, but needed. It all just seems so pointless now. Even the Civil War. Why fight battles when they've already won the overall war? Their future is bright, while we are fighting like hell to be as big of a little brother as we possibly can. Yay us! It all just seems so pointless. Am I alone in my depression? I love Oregon State University. That is the prime fact and that will NEVER change. Everything else is just details. |
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Post by rgeorge on Nov 20, 2023 19:52:20 GMT -8
No teams know what's "on the horizon". Just because a team is now assigned to a new league means very little in the overall picture.
Some folks act like OSU went be playing football (or ??) at all. I'm betting an OSU rebuild goes better than 6-8 of the traitors' seasons.
The portal is always a unknown... for every team. Those making up all the negative garbage about where players want to play... are doing just that. Making stuff up. They seem to think only OSU players will be unhappy about their future. I'm guessing there are plenty of kids not thrilled about all the travel. And, players aren't stupid. They know where they are headed and the less than stellar chances for many teams to have much success.
The point is... every team in the Pac12 has a bunch of unknowns going forward. And, to be honest, with what I see as a bit of a rebuild I can see 2024 benefit from what the reality of our situation will be.
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Post by seastape on Nov 20, 2023 20:39:18 GMT -8
I am not despondent. I had a great time at the game this Saturday. First time I have been to Reser in a while. Went with a friend, he brought a lot of his friends, they all turned out to be great people, and OSU was in the game until the last drive against the #5 team in the country. It was great to be at that game right up until uw got a first down after we called our last time out. That was not a bad loss. It didn't ruin my day and I recovered within an hour of the final gun.
It was nowhere near the loss we suffered against WSU.
Of course I want to see a win against the slug eaters, but I'm not expecting it. And if we lose I'm still going to think we had a good season. Like a lot of others, I had high hopes for the season but also like a lot of others, I was cautious because of the loss of talent on D, the loss of leadership overall, and some reservations about DJU. DJU had more bad games than I thought he would, but not by much. Overall, OSU didn't do as well as I had hoped but they were still on the scale where I thought they would be and it's not ruining my season.
It sucks that the Pac 12 as we knew it is dead. No denying it. But we're still going to be a west coast team in a decent conference while still excelling in a few sports like we do now. And frankly, football is the only sport that takes perfection to get into the national tournament, but even that is changing next year. We can win a G5+ conference, which is what we'll be, and make the playoff next year. Football is not dead, not by any stretch. There may actually be more football playoff opportunity for OSU in the future than there has been for OSU in the past.
And plenty of teams from lesser conferences have had great showings in national tournaments in other sports. Why not OSU?
Athletics is not dead at OSU. It's going to change, but it's not going to die.
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Post by bigorangebeaver on Nov 21, 2023 6:16:51 GMT -8
I think Cal and Stanford are going to be far more despondent than us in the coming years. Their travel is going to be a nightmare and really, who is going to be fired up about home football games against Pitt, Syracuse, BC, SMU and Wake Forest? I think the four new Big Ten teams will find out that league is not all that and a bag of chips. Especially the winter and spring (if there is such a thing in the Midwest) teams. As ever, "Be careful what you wish for." The other thing is that their Athletic Departments will like all of the (presumed) $$$$$ they are going to bring in, but the kids who do the actual playing will probably find that it sucks, which is too bad, since they really aren't responsible for the conference break up. But if they choose to go to one of those schools after this, well, "Be careful what you wish for." |
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Post by bigorangebeaver on Nov 21, 2023 6:25:12 GMT -8
As for the Despondency, yeah, I am pretty unhappy that the Pac-12 blew up, even more unhappy that it was all due to media $$$$$ and perceived "National Brand" considerations, and the unhappiest of all that those effing mallards (dumbest ducks alive) had a big hand in it.
But,
I like Oregon State, our older son (a Benny Beaver 2000-2002) went to school there, I like going to games there. That is not going to change. The things I look for in sports will still be there. The competition, excitement, and fun will still be there.
Go Beavs.
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Post by drunkandstoopidbeav on Nov 21, 2023 7:46:03 GMT -8
I think Cal and Stanford are going to be far more despondent than us in the coming years. Their travel is going to be a nightmare and really, who is going to be fired up about home football games against Pitt, Syracuse, BC, SMU and Wake Forest? I think the four new Big Ten teams will find out that league is not all that and a bag of chips. Especially the winter and spring (if there is such a thing in the Midwest) teams. As ever, "Be careful what you wish for." The other thing is that their Athletic Departments will like all of the (presumed) $$$$$ they are going to bring in, but the kids who do the actual playing will probably find that it sucks, which is too bad, since they really aren't responsible for the conference break up. But if they choose to go to one of those schools after this, well, "Be careful what you wish for." Cal and Stanford won’t even be bringing money in, barely any anyways, they agreed to take only a 30% share for the next 7 years. Yippee, maybe 14 million a year while spending the bulk of it on travel alone. It will be interesting to see if and when they acknowledge it was a mistake to join that conference. |
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Post by beavfan14 on Nov 21, 2023 9:17:45 GMT -8
I think Cal and Stanford are going to be far more despondent than us in the coming years. Their travel is going to be a nightmare and really, who is going to be fired up about home football games against Pitt, Syracuse, BC, SMU and Wake Forest? I think the four new Big Ten teams will find out that league is not all that and a bag of chips. Especially the winter and spring (if there is such a thing in the Midwest) teams. I foresee a lot of winning ahead for us, with new destinations and new venues to explore and with new fanbases to meet. Maybe I am being crazily optimistic. Guilty as charged, I've found it really beats the alternative. yes! I agree with this. Does it suck to no longer have the Pac12, of course. Does it suck to not have a public plan going forward, yep. We could have had a special year this year, no question, but it was still fun and exciting to watch even if a little disappointing. But I am also more then intrigued and excited to see where we go from here, there's nothing I can do about it now so why not embrace it. It will be a huge change, some for the worse, some for the better, but I will still go to every game and root for the Beavers. This is will be a big challenge but I trust our leadership at OSU more then I have in awhile. They seem to all understand that academics comes first, but to have a successful athletics program can also be vital for a university. I choose to believe, and like Skrimshander said maybe overly optimistic, that we will be good in the long run. Get a media deal that is streaming, most live tv is or will be streaming soon so we should try and get it first. This is our chance to lead the pack, not follow along. We need to be aggressive in PR and have some forward thinking. I am pssed off and disappointed that we have been "left out" of the conversation. But now is not the time to wallow in pity or give up. I choose to continue to support the Beavers in any way I can and will happily do so whatever happens next year in all sports. Build up the Pac12 again, and maybe in a few years we will be back in the conversation and maybe even be out front of these teams that had no true understanding of what they were doing. Either way, I will continue to show up, tailgate, have some brews and root on my teams and have some fun a couple of weekends a year where nothing else matters. Go Beavers!!! |
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