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Post by wilkyisdashiznit on Nov 19, 2023 22:28:01 GMT -8
So OSU could go to the Alamo Bowl assuming UW goes to the CFP and UO plays in a New Year's bowl and Arizona gets picked by another bowl game. I was confused for a few minutes but there's no set order for the Pac-12 bowl games. My choices for OSU would be either the Alamo Bowl or the Holiday Bowl. This year's Pac-12 bowl-selection order: 1. New Year's Six Bowl(s)
2. Alamo Bowl
3. Las Vegas Bowl
4. Holiday Bowl
5. Sun Bowl
6. Los Angeles Bowl |
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Post by seastape on Nov 20, 2023 6:19:32 GMT -8
I would love the Holiday Bowl, as it's less than an hour's drive away.
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Post by drunkandstoopidbeav on Nov 20, 2023 8:38:47 GMT -8
I would love the Holiday Bowl, as it's less than an hour's drive away. I am about an hour’s worth of driving from there, it’s the long day in airports and planes I find taxing. |
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Post by grayman on Nov 20, 2023 11:24:00 GMT -8
So OSU could go to the Alamo Bowl assuming UW goes to the CFP and UO plays in a New Year's bowl and Arizona gets picked by another bowl game. I was confused for a few minutes but there's no set order for the Pac-12 bowl games. My choices for OSU would be either the Alamo Bowl or the Holiday Bowl. This year's Pac-12 bowl-selection order: 1. New Year's Six Bowl(s)
2. Alamo Bowl
3. Las Vegas Bowl
4. Holiday Bowl
5. Sun Bowl
6. Los Angeles BowlYes, this was what I was assuming to be the case. But I read that there's no set order for 2023 (thus my confusion)...my guess is they meant that they don't have to choose a team in order of how they placed in the Pac-12...but that's not how it was worded. Whatever. What I posted still works. UW or UO goes to the CFP. The loser of the Pac-12 title game goes to a New Year's Six bowl. That opens Alamo, Las Vegas and Holiday as possible spots for OSU. Thankfully, there's not a high chance that they would drop to the Sun Bowl. |
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Post by grayman on Nov 20, 2023 12:04:42 GMT -8
Also it will be interesting to see which team the Alamo Bowl picks if OSU wins the Civil War and Arizona defeats ASU but loses the Pac-12 title game. I think a 10-2 UO team still gets a NY6 bid. Also, UA playing in the title game might have extra pull but selectors would no doubt understand that OSU's Civil War win put them there.
Arizona won the head to head game at home and might have a leg up with the selectors to highlight an early matchup against a Big 12 team in the bowl.
OSU would be coming off a huge win of national note and most likely would end the season ranked higher after the win over UO (and was a ranked team throughout the season).
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Post by grayman on Nov 20, 2023 12:27:21 GMT -8
This year's Pac-12 bowl-selection order: 1. New Year's Six Bowl(s)
2. Alamo Bowl
3. Las Vegas Bowl
4. Holiday Bowl
5. Sun Bowl
6. Los Angeles BowlYes, this was what I was assuming to be the case. But I read that there's no set order for 2023 (thus my confusion)...my guess is they meant that they don't have to choose a team in order of how they placed in the Pac-12...but that's not how it was worded. Whatever. What I posted still works. UW or UO goes to the CFP. The loser of the Pac-12 title game goes to a New Year's Six bowl. That opens Alamo, Las Vegas and Holiday as possible spots for OSU. Thankfully, there's not a high chance that they would drop to the Sun Bowl. I will add that the Las Vegas Bowl is very unlikely to want to take OSU. |
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Post by ftd on Nov 20, 2023 12:56:22 GMT -8
Yes, this was what I was assuming to be the case. But I read that there's no set order for 2023 (thus my confusion)...my guess is they meant that they don't have to choose a team in order of how they placed in the Pac-12...but that's not how it was worded. Whatever. What I posted still works. UW or UO goes to the CFP. The loser of the Pac-12 title game goes to a New Year's Six bowl. That opens Alamo, Las Vegas and Holiday as possible spots for OSU. Thankfully, there's not a high chance that they would drop to the Sun Bowl. I will add that the Las Vegas Bowl is very unlikely to want to take OSU. I don't think LV takes a team two years in row |
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Post by wilkyisdashiznit on Nov 20, 2023 13:09:36 GMT -8
Also it will be interesting to see which team the Alamo Bowl picks if OSU wins the Civil War and Arizona defeats ASU but loses the Pac-12 title game. I think a 10-2 UO team still gets a NY6 bid. Also, UA playing in the title game might have extra pull but selectors would no doubt understand that OSU's Civil War win put them there. Arizona won the head to head game at home and might have a leg up with the selectors to highlight an early matchup against a Big 12 team in the bowl. OSU would be coming off a huge win of national note and most likely would end the season ranked higher after the win over UO (and was a ranked team throughout the season). Of course, you could always run into a situation, where Arizona wins the Pac-12 Championship Game against a 12-0 Washington. In which case, you might see three Pac-12 teams in NY6 bowls. Arizona would be the auto-bid probably in the Fiesta. Washington would probably be in the Cotton. And Oregon would probably be in the Peach. It is important to note that, unless Oregon or Washington get into the CFP, the NY6 bowls can only invite three Pac-12 teams. Who does the Alamo Bowl pick then? The choices would be Oregon State, USC, UCLA (with a win over Cal), or Utah (with a win over Colorado). Oregon State would have the best record and probably be the highest-ranked choice. |
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Post by grayman on Nov 20, 2023 13:16:11 GMT -8
Also it will be interesting to see which team the Alamo Bowl picks if OSU wins the Civil War and Arizona defeats ASU but loses the Pac-12 title game. I think a 10-2 UO team still gets a NY6 bid. Also, UA playing in the title game might have extra pull but selectors would no doubt understand that OSU's Civil War win put them there. Arizona won the head to head game at home and might have a leg up with the selectors to highlight an early matchup against a Big 12 team in the bowl. OSU would be coming off a huge win of national note and most likely would end the season ranked higher after the win over UO (and was a ranked team throughout the season). Of course, you could always run into a situation, where Arizona wins the Pac-12 Championship Game against a 12-0 Washington. In which case, you might see three Pac-12 teams in NY6 bowls. Arizona would be the auto-bid probably in the Fiesta. Washington would probably be in the Cotton. And Oregon would probably be in the Peach. It is important to note that, unless Oregon or Washington get into the CFP, the NY6 bowls can only invite three Pac-12 teams. Who does the Alamo Bowl pick then? The choices would be Oregon State, USC, UCLA (with a win over Cal), or Utah (with a win over Colorado). Oregon State would have the best record and probably be the highest-ranked choice. That's going to OSU all day. A 9-3 record and coming off a win at Oregon would put them far ahead of USC, UCLA and Utah, IMO. |
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Post by wilkyisdashiznit on Nov 20, 2023 13:17:16 GMT -8
Yes, this was what I was assuming to be the case. But I read that there's no set order for 2023 (thus my confusion)...my guess is they meant that they don't have to choose a team in order of how they placed in the Pac-12...but that's not how it was worded. Whatever. What I posted still works. UW or UO goes to the CFP. The loser of the Pac-12 title game goes to a New Year's Six bowl. That opens Alamo, Las Vegas and Holiday as possible spots for OSU. Thankfully, there's not a high chance that they would drop to the Sun Bowl. I will add that the Las Vegas Bowl is very unlikely to want to take OSU. The Las Vegas Bowl last took the same team two years in a row back in 2014 and 2015. That was when the Las Vegas Bowl was further down the bowl selection order, though. |
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Post by wilkyisdashiznit on Nov 20, 2023 13:24:40 GMT -8
This year's Pac-12 bowl-selection order: 1. New Year's Six Bowl(s)
2. Alamo Bowl
3. Las Vegas Bowl
4. Holiday Bowl
5. Sun Bowl
6. Los Angeles BowlYes, this was what I was assuming to be the case. But I read that there's no set order for 2023 (thus my confusion)...my guess is they meant that they don't have to choose a team in order of how they placed in the Pac-12...but that's not how it was worded. Whatever. What I posted still works. UW or UO goes to the CFP. The loser of the Pac-12 title game goes to a New Year's Six bowl. That opens Alamo, Las Vegas and Holiday as possible spots for OSU. Thankfully, there's not a high chance that they would drop to the Sun Bowl. There are several awful websites, which state that there is no set order for 2023. But that is not true. There is no "set order" in a bunch of other conferences, as well. And that is also rarely true. There is almost always a set order. Other conferences tend to be a lot more accommodating, though, to allow bowls to select teams with far worse records in certain circumstances. The Alamo, Las Vegas, and Holiday can choose the remaining team with the best record or a team within one game. The Sun Bowl must select the team with the best record, unless that team is UCLA. (UCLA played in El Paso last year. In that eventuality, the Sun Bowl can select--and almost has--the next best team.) If UCLA is skipped over, the Los Angeles Bowl must select UCLA. |
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Post by grayman on Nov 20, 2023 13:31:14 GMT -8
I will add that the Las Vegas Bowl is very unlikely to want to take OSU. The Las Vegas Bowl last took the same team two years in a row back in 2014 and 2015. That was when the Las Vegas Bowl was further down the bowl selection order, though. Yeah..I actually would be fine with it if the Las Vegas Bowl picked OSU. I just don't want the Beavers to drop to the Sun Bowl or lower. If OSU loses at Oregon, you have basically a logjam with OSU, Utah and UCLA at 8-4, 5-4 and USC at 7-5, 5-4. Then it gets interesting. But I still like OSU's chances to at least get a Holiday Bowl berth. The Las Vegas Bowl picks one of the other three. If that's Utah or USC (particularly USC), it should increase OSU's chances for the Holiday Bowl because UCLA is probably a no-go. I don't think Utah with its QB situation is necessarily going to be top of the list for the LV and Holiday Bowls. |
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Post by wilkyisdashiznit on Nov 20, 2023 13:50:23 GMT -8
The Las Vegas Bowl last took the same team two years in a row back in 2014 and 2015. That was when the Las Vegas Bowl was further down the bowl selection order, though. Yeah..I actually would be fine with it if the Las Vegas Bowl picked OSU. I just don't want the Beavers to drop to the Sun Bowl or lower. If OSU loses at Oregon, you have basically a logjam with OSU, Utah and UCLA at 8-4, 5-4 and USC at 7-5, 5-4. Then it gets interesting. But I still like OSU's chances to at least get a Holiday Bowl berth. The Las Vegas Bowl picks one of the other three. If that's Utah or USC (particularly USC), it should increase OSU's chances for the Holiday Bowl because UCLA is probably a no-go. I don't think Utah with its QB situation is necessarily going to be top of the list for the LV and Holiday Bowls. Man, the last thing that the Las Vegas Bowl wants is that choice. I have heard that the Las Vegas Bowl does not like UCLA or Utah. UCLA has not played there since 2007. The last two times that the Las Vegas Bowl selected Utah, they were forced to by contract. The time before that was in 2010, when the Las Vegas Bowl tried to set up the best non-BCS bowl between #10 Boise and #20 Utah. The Las Vegas Bowl probably would jump at Arizona or Oregon. The Las Vegas Bowl might be itchy to get Oregon State back rather than matching up USC with a team in the Big Ten that UCLA (Penn State, Minnesota, Rutgers, Nebraska, and Iowa) or USC (Michigan, Wisconsin, Minnesota, Penn State, Maryland, Rutgers, and Nebraska) plays next year. |
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Post by grayman on Nov 20, 2023 14:36:49 GMT -8
Yeah..I actually would be fine with it if the Las Vegas Bowl picked OSU. I just don't want the Beavers to drop to the Sun Bowl or lower. If OSU loses at Oregon, you have basically a logjam with OSU, Utah and UCLA at 8-4, 5-4 and USC at 7-5, 5-4. Then it gets interesting. But I still like OSU's chances to at least get a Holiday Bowl berth. The Las Vegas Bowl picks one of the other three. If that's Utah or USC (particularly USC), it should increase OSU's chances for the Holiday Bowl because UCLA is probably a no-go. I don't think Utah with its QB situation is necessarily going to be top of the list for the LV and Holiday Bowls. Man, the last thing that the Las Vegas Bowl wants is that choice. I have heard that the Las Vegas Bowl does not like UCLA or Utah. UCLA has not played there since 2007. The last two times that the Las Vegas Bowl selected Utah, they were forced to by contract. The time before that was in 2010, when the Las Vegas Bowl tried to set up the best non-BCS bowl between #10 Boise and #20 Utah. The Las Vegas Bowl probably would jump at Arizona or Oregon. The Las Vegas Bowl might be itchy to get Oregon State back rather than matching up USC with a team in the Big Ten that UCLA (Penn State, Minnesota, Rutgers, Nebraska, and Iowa) or USC (Michigan, Wisconsin, Minnesota, Penn State, Maryland, Rutgers, and Nebraska) plays next year. That's a good point about the Big Ten matchup in the Las Vegas Bowl. Maybe it does pick OSU. I think the chances that Oregon would be available for the Las Vegas Bowl to select are extremely slim. If they don't go to a NY6 bowl, I think the Alamo Bowl snatches them up over UA for sure. But again, I think UO is going to a NY6 game even with a loss on Friday. USC is kind of the wild card in all of this and maybe I'm underselling Utah. |
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