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General Preseason News Thread Oct 10, 2023 11:20:37 GMT -8 norm likes this

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Oct 10, 2023 10:35:25 GMT -8 beav74 said:

We'll be much better that 10th place. Predictions are based on last years performance. A healthy Timea Gardiner and TVO and some pretty good newbies should put us somewhere in the middle of the Pac. Ducks could very well finish 8-10 with what they lost.

No idea where any team might finish, but 5-6 teams landed outstanding recruiting classes with multiple top 100 players. The ducks landed a top 20 class and a couple outstanding grad transfers that can score/board (Scott), and one with quicks and very high hoop IQ and A/TO ratio in Williams. Even a better Timea, healthy TVO, and Beers doesn't lead me to believe the Beavs fair much better than 8th. The overall roster and talented depth just doesn't match up to the top 6-7 teams. BUT, lots can happen and it is why ranking are on paper and you play the games.

I have no idea on what happened in the late summer as far as transfers or injuries, but:

UCLA has extra year from Osborne & Brown plus a highly talented returning Soph. class and...
Amanda Muse, 6-4, P, Brentwood, Calif./Heritage HS - #32 espnW HoopGurlz /(McD's AA)

Utah has maybe the most talent returning as a team, but 1 or 3 teams NOT to land a Top100 player, added...
Daniela Hernández - 6-2, F, Las Palmas de Gran Canaria, Spain/Citizens HS
Reese Ross - 6-0, F, Rapid City, S.D./St. Thomas More HS

Stanford returns key players and...
Nunu Agara - 6-2, F, Minnetonka, Minn./Hopkins HS - #37 espnW HoopGurlz
Chloe Clardy - 5-9, G, Conway, Ark./Conway HS - #39 espnW HoopGurlz
Courtney Ogden - 6-1, F, Atlanta, Ga./Westminster School - #10 espnW HoopGurlz /(McD's AA)

Arizona has a very nice roster plus...
Breya Cunningham - 6-4, P, Chula Vista, Calif./La Jolla Country Day School - #14 espnW HoopGurlz /(McD's AA)
Montaya Dew - 6-2, F, Las Vegas, Nev./Centennial HS - #8 espnW HoopGurlz
Jada Williams - 5-6, G, San Diego, Calif./La Jolla Country Day School - #21 espnW HoopGurlz /(McD's AA)

Colorado an excellent duo returns plus...
Jadyn Atchison - 6-1, G, Cedar Hill, Texas/Cedar Hill HS
Mikayla Johnson - 6-1, G, Anchorage, Alaska/Bartlett HS
Ruthie Loomis-Goltl - 6-3, P, Bridgeport, Neb./Bridgeport HS - #78 espnW HoopGurlz
Kennedy Sanders - 5-8, F, Chaska, Minn./Chaska HS - #75 espnW HoopGurlz
Lele Tanuvasa - 6-0, G, Eureka, Calif./St. Mary’s HS (Stockton, Calif.)

USC returns a very solid roster and...
Malia Samuels - 5-6, G, Seattle, Wash./Garfield HS - #49 espnW HoopGurlz
JuJu Watkins - 6-1, G, Watts, Calif./Sierra Canyon HS - #1 espnW HoopGurlz /(McD's AA)

WSU has an outstanding duo and added...
Alex Covill - 6-6, C, Missoula, Mont./Hellgate HS
Candace Kpetikou - 6-3, C, Niamey, Niger/Saint Joseph HS (Santa Maria, Calif.)
Jenna Villa - 6-1, G, Arlington, Wash./Arlington HS - #68 espnW HoopGurlz

UW has a weaker returning roster but bolstered their talent with (3) top 100 players...
Olivia Anderson - 6-6, F, Ellensburg, Wash./Ellensburg HS
Chloe Briggs - 5-10, G, Ontario, Calif./Ontario Christian HS - #93 espnW HoopGurlz
Ari Long - 6-0, G, Moreno Valley, Calif./Valley View HS - #46 espnW HoopGurlz
Sayvia Sellers - 5-7, PG, Anchorage, Alaska/Anchorage Christian HS - #28 espnW HoopGurlz

The top of this league could be very interesting. If I was made to make a guess, UCLA would be my #1 as they have a very deep roster and talented roster. Their unfortunate seasons of the injury bug can't keep happening?!

Stanford, Arizona, Utah all could be in the top spot... and would make up my top four some order.

SC, Colorado, WSU are in my next grouping with returning players, recruits, and recent successes to give them a bump over Oregon, OSU, UW.

Cal and ASU are definitely in a tier by themselves.

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General Preseason News Thread Oct 12, 2023 22:37:27 GMT -8 steinlager, 411500, and 2 more like this

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Post by bvrbooster on Oct 12, 2023 22:37:27 GMT -8

The Beavs are, hopefully, more than just Raegan, Timea, and Talia - although that's a pretty nice base. AJ was the #63 recruit in the nation. Hopefully, this is the year she blossoms and fills her role very nicely. Adlee gained great confidence and shot a very high percentage from behind the arc the last several games - against PAC 12 competition.

We'll need a few others to step to the fore as well, but the pre-conference schedule isn't too testing. Scott should be able to get his rotation grooved fairly readily this year; due to youth and injury, that never seemed to happen last year.

I don't know where we'll finish this year, but I just don't see how it can possibly be near the bottom.

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General Preseason News Thread Oct 13, 2023 4:14:32 GMT -8 via mobile markwbeaver, greybeav, and 3 more like this

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Post by norm on Oct 13, 2023 4:14:32 GMT -8

Oct 12, 2023 22:37:27 GMT -8 bvrbooster said:

The Beavs are, hopefully, more than just Raegan, Timea, and Talia - although that's a pretty nice base. AJ was the #63 recruit in the nation. Hopefully, this is the year she blossoms and fills her role very nicely. Adlee gained great confidence and shot a very high percentage from behind the arc the last several games - against PAC 12 competition.

We'll need a few others to step to the fore as well, but the pre-conference schedule isn't too testing. Scott should be able to get his rotation grooved fairly readily this year; due to youth and injury, that never seemed to happen last year.

I don't know where we'll finish this year, but I just don't see how it can possibly be near the bottom.

Keep your eye on Dom. Expecting her to be a solid contributor. As the season progresses, she will become one of the better and more important players on the team.

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General Preseason News Thread Oct 13, 2023 7:37:40 GMT -8 rgeorge likes this

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Post by 411500 on Oct 13, 2023 7:37:40 GMT -8

Oct 12, 2023 22:37:27 GMT -8 bvrbooster said:

The Beavs are, hopefully, more than just Raegan, Timea, and Talia - although that's a pretty nice base. AJ was the #63 recruit in the nation. Hopefully, this is the year she blossoms and fills her role very nicely. Adlee gained great confidence and shot a very high percentage from behind the arc the last several games - against PAC 12 competition.

We'll need a few others to step to the fore as well, but the pre-conference schedule isn't too testing. Scott should be able to get his rotation grooved fairly readily this year; due to youth and injury, that never seemed to happen last year.

I don't know where we'll finish this year, but I just don't see how it can possibly be near the bottom.

I'm hoping along the same lines as bvrbooster on this year's team....
Rueck's got a solid, very solid, trio to help build a winning team: Reagan, Timea and Talia....
As everyone clearly sees, success is gong to ride on the quality of the next 5 players who get major floor time this season...

If (a very important "IF") AJ & Adlee mature and perform at a higher level than they have thus far, then things are looking up for the Beavs.

The two major problems for this year's team, (and they are big ones): (1) lack of a proven point guard and (2) lack of overall team speed. The Beavs ain't slow, but they for sure ain't fast. Not one player on the roster qualifies as both athletic and fast...AJ fits as athletic, so does Raegan, but in today's WBB world, the top teams must have 4 or 5 athletic-fast "players." Athletic and fast, unto itself, is not enough. They must also be "players." Athletic-fast-players. You must have them.

Right now the Beavs have 3 or 4 good players; 1 or 2 good athletes, and I-don't-know-who on this team qualifies as fast.
How is this predicament resolved? In a nutshell: excellent shooting and premiere defense.

And that's another topic for another day.
GO BEAVS!!

Last Edit: Oct 13, 2023 7:40:39 GMT -8 by 411500

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General Preseason News Thread Oct 13, 2023 8:16:31 GMT -8

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Post by lotrader on Oct 13, 2023 8:16:31 GMT -8

Oct 13, 2023 7:37:40 GMT -8 411500 said:

Oct 12, 2023 22:37:27 GMT -8 bvrbooster said:

The Beavs are, hopefully, more than just Raegan, Timea, and Talia - although that's a pretty nice base. AJ was the #63 recruit in the nation. Hopefully, this is the year she blossoms and fills her role very nicely. Adlee gained great confidence and shot a very high percentage from behind the arc the last several games - against PAC 12 competition.

We'll need a few others to step to the fore as well, but the pre-conference schedule isn't too testing. Scott should be able to get his rotation grooved fairly readily this year; due to youth and injury, that never seemed to happen last year.

I don't know where we'll finish this year, but I just don't see how it can possibly be near the bottom.

bvrbooster, we do have athletic & fast. Our two all-state guards are both athletic and fast. I watched the OSAA WBB playoff games in their senior year, and was so impressed with how fast both of these young ladies are pushing the ball from backcourt to frontcourt. I think you will see more team speed this season. Also I watched many of Dominika's games this summer and Dom is also fast. Lastly, don't forget who is coaching the guards this season...HUGE upgrade for OSU WBB. We may not have the "quickness" of some of the elite guards in the conference, but I think our height at the perimeter defensively is going to help OSU a great deal.

I'm hoping along the same lines as bvrbooster on this year's team....
Rueck's got a solid, very solid, trio to help build a winning team: Reagan, Timea and Talia....
As everyone clearly sees, success is gong to ride on the quality of the next 5 players who get major floor time this season...

If (a very important "IF") AJ & Adlee mature and perform at a higher level than they have thus far, then things are looking up for the Beavs.

The two major problems for this year's team, (and they are big ones): (1) lack of a proven point guard and (2) lack of overall team speed. The Beavs ain't slow, but they for sure ain't fast. Not one player on the roster qualifies as both athletic and fast...AJ fits as athletic, so does Raegan, but in today's WBB world, the top teams must have 4 or 5 athletic-fast "players." Athletic and fast, unto itself, is not enough. They must also be "players." Athletic-fast-players. You must have them.

Right now the Beavs have 3 or 4 good players; 1 or 2 good athletes, and I-don't-know-who on this team qualifies as fast.
How is this predicament resolved? In a nutshell: excellent shooting and premiere defense.

And that's another topic for another day.
GO BEAVS!!

Last Edit: Oct 13, 2023 8:21:10 GMT -8 by lotrader

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General Preseason News Thread Oct 13, 2023 10:19:29 GMT -8 lebaneaver likes this

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Oct 13, 2023 7:37:40 GMT -8 411500 said:

Oct 12, 2023 22:37:27 GMT -8 bvrbooster said:

The Beavs are, hopefully, more than just Raegan, Timea, and Talia - although that's a pretty nice base. AJ was the #63 recruit in the nation. Hopefully, this is the year she blossoms and fills her role very nicely. Adlee gained great confidence and shot a very high percentage from behind the arc the last several games - against PAC 12 competition.

We'll need a few others to step to the fore as well, but the pre-conference schedule isn't too testing. Scott should be able to get his rotation grooved fairly readily this year; due to youth and injury, that never seemed to happen last year.

I don't know where we'll finish this year, but I just don't see how it can possibly be near the bottom.

I'm hoping along the same lines as bvrbooster on this year's team....
Rueck's got a solid, very solid, trio to help build a winning team: Reagan, Timea and Talia....
As everyone clearly sees, success is gong to ride on the quality of the next 5 players who get major floor time this season...

If (a very important "IF") AJ & Adlee mature and perform at a higher level than they have thus far, then things are looking up for the Beavs.

The two major problems for this year's team, (and they are big ones): (1) lack of a proven point guard and (2) lack of overall team speed. The Beavs ain't slow, but they for sure ain't fast. Not one player on the roster qualifies as both athletic and fast...AJ fits as athletic, so does Raegan, but in today's WBB world, the top teams must have 4 or 5 athletic-fast "players." Athletic and fast, unto itself, is not enough. They must also be "players." Athletic-fast-players. You must have them.

Right now the Beavs have 3 or 4 good players; 1 or 2 good athletes, and I-don't-know-who on this team qualifies as fast.
How is this predicament resolved? In a nutshell: excellent shooting and premiere defense.

And that's another topic for another day.
GO BEAVS!!

Great post and analysis. And, for clarification... having watch boy's & girl's OSAA tourneys for 30+ years, being quick and fast in the Oregon HS playoffs is not quite the same as what OSU has/will see vs quality Pac12 players. The top half of the league is full of highly skilled, fast, and athletic guards. Most are also very experienced.

Beers and Timea are "athletic" in tight spaces, but not what I would consider great athletes, certainly not great hops or fast. Great footwork and use of their bodies, but do not matchup well in one-on-one defense with athletic bigs. As you stated OSU will have to shoot lights out, play great D to fair well in this conference.

I totally get the "orange goggles"... I mean read all the hype over the last 2-3+ seasons that basically turned on OSU being less athletic and not deep enough to overcome injuries. There are far more questions than answers on this roster. This conference is loaded... and the recruiting classes and transfers bolstered it even more. Barring key injuries to multiple teams, for OSU to be a top 5 team in this conference they will have to have 4-5 players truly exceed anything they've done since arriving at OSU.

Some will poo poo away the reality saying it's negativity. But, any objective look at the returners + newcomers shows OSU's preseason placement is about right. They could be anywhere from 5th to 10th in a conference that is very tightly bunched at the top and mid levels.

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General Preseason News Thread Oct 13, 2023 10:44:14 GMT -8 lebaneaver, oldbeav, and 1 more like this

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Post by lotrader on Oct 13, 2023 10:44:14 GMT -8

With total respect I disagree. We have enough team speed and completely disagree about Raegan Beers who is a great athlete, and much faster than the opponents she will match up against. My daughter saw Raegan playing outdoor volleyball with guys this summer and was blown away with her athletic ability.

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General Preseason News Thread Oct 13, 2023 11:19:00 GMT -8 rgeorge likes this

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Post by nwhoopfan on Oct 13, 2023 11:19:00 GMT -8

Oct 10, 2023 11:20:37 GMT -8 rgeorge said:

Oct 10, 2023 10:35:25 GMT -8 beav74 said:

We'll be much better that 10th place. Predictions are based on last years performance. A healthy Timea Gardiner and TVO and some pretty good newbies should put us somewhere in the middle of the Pac. Ducks could very well finish 8-10 with what they lost.

No idea where any team might finish, but 5-6 teams landed outstanding recruiting classes with multiple top 100 players. The ducks landed a top 20 class and a couple outstanding grad transfers that can score/board (Scott), and one with quicks and very high hoop IQ and A/TO ratio in Williams. Even a better Timea, healthy TVO, and Beers doesn't lead me to believe the Beavs fair much better than 8th. The overall roster and talented depth just doesn't match up to the top 6-7 teams. BUT, lots can happen and it is why ranking are on paper and you play the games.

I have no idea on what happened in the late summer as far as transfers or injuries, but:

UCLA has extra year from Osborne & Brown plus a highly talented returning Soph. class and...
Amanda Muse, 6-4, P, Brentwood, Calif./Heritage HS - #32 espnW HoopGurlz /(McD's AA)

Utah has maybe the most talent returning as a team, but 1 or 3 teams NOT to land a Top100 player, added...
Daniela Hernández - 6-2, F, Las Palmas de Gran Canaria, Spain/Citizens HS
Reese Ross - 6-0, F, Rapid City, S.D./St. Thomas More HS

Stanford returns key players and...
Nunu Agara - 6-2, F, Minnetonka, Minn./Hopkins HS - #37 espnW HoopGurlz
Chloe Clardy - 5-9, G, Conway, Ark./Conway HS - #39 espnW HoopGurlz
Courtney Ogden - 6-1, F, Atlanta, Ga./Westminster School - #10 espnW HoopGurlz /(McD's AA)

Arizona has a very nice roster plus...
Breya Cunningham - 6-4, P, Chula Vista, Calif./La Jolla Country Day School - #14 espnW HoopGurlz /(McD's AA)
Montaya Dew - 6-2, F, Las Vegas, Nev./Centennial HS - #8 espnW HoopGurlz
Jada Williams - 5-6, G, San Diego, Calif./La Jolla Country Day School - #21 espnW HoopGurlz /(McD's AA)

Colorado an excellent duo returns plus...
Jadyn Atchison - 6-1, G, Cedar Hill, Texas/Cedar Hill HS
Mikayla Johnson - 6-1, G, Anchorage, Alaska/Bartlett HS
Ruthie Loomis-Goltl - 6-3, P, Bridgeport, Neb./Bridgeport HS - #78 espnW HoopGurlz
Kennedy Sanders - 5-8, F, Chaska, Minn./Chaska HS - #75 espnW HoopGurlz
Lele Tanuvasa - 6-0, G, Eureka, Calif./St. Mary’s HS (Stockton, Calif.)

USC returns a very solid roster and...
Malia Samuels - 5-6, G, Seattle, Wash./Garfield HS - #49 espnW HoopGurlz
JuJu Watkins - 6-1, G, Watts, Calif./Sierra Canyon HS - #1 espnW HoopGurlz /(McD's AA)

WSU has an outstanding duo and added...
Alex Covill - 6-6, C, Missoula, Mont./Hellgate HS
Candace Kpetikou - 6-3, C, Niamey, Niger/Saint Joseph HS (Santa Maria, Calif.)
Jenna Villa - 6-1, G, Arlington, Wash./Arlington HS - #68 espnW HoopGurlz

UW has a weaker returning roster but bolstered their talent with (3) top 100 players...
Olivia Anderson - 6-6, F, Ellensburg, Wash./Ellensburg HS
Chloe Briggs - 5-10, G, Ontario, Calif./Ontario Christian HS - #93 espnW HoopGurlz
Ari Long - 6-0, G, Moreno Valley, Calif./Valley View HS - #46 espnW HoopGurlz
Sayvia Sellers - 5-7, PG, Anchorage, Alaska/Anchorage Christian HS - #28 espnW HoopGurlz

The top of this league could be very interesting. If I was made to make a guess, UCLA would be my #1 as they have a very deep roster and talented roster. Their unfortunate seasons of the injury bug can't keep happening?!

Stanford, Arizona, Utah all could be in the top spot... and would make up my top four some order.

SC, Colorado, WSU are in my next grouping with returning players, recruits, and recent successes to give them a bump over Oregon, OSU, UW.

Cal and ASU are definitely in a tier by themselves.

UCLA also added Lauren Betts, 6-7 transfer from Stanford. Was one of the top recruits in the '22 class.

Stanford lost about half of their roster from last year. Still talent there, but they will look much different.

Colorado returns virtually everybody from last year. Jada Wynn transferred out, I think that's their only loss.

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