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Post by OriginalWhizzinator on Sept 2, 2023 10:35:31 GMT -8
Welp, looks like the Pac is officially dead now. It’s obviously infuriating that all the traditions, rivalries, geography, and common sense, etc. have been cast to the side by our former leaguemates in pursuit of the Almighty dollar. 🤦🏼♂️ But that’s where we are.
Of the (limited) available options, I say just join up with the Mountain West and call it a day. Wazzu will probably come too. Yes, the financial hit, prestige hit, etc. totally sucks. But look on the bright side - in this conference, OSU will be one of the top schools, and should be in the running for league titles in football and baseball every year, among other sports. 👍🏻 And as much as we dearly love our Beavs, we were not really a premier Pac-12 program in most sports (baseball being a notable exception).
The geography still makes sense, we’re a good cultural fit, and the Beavs could be set up to really kick ass in our new conference. So **** the Ducks and all the other Benedict Arnolds who destroyed a 100-year old conference - a pox on their houses, always and forever. But they’re all in the rearview mirror now. Embrace a future with the MWC and get ready to start kicking some ass. LET’S GO, BEAVS!!!!! 😎👍🏻
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Post by ftd on Sept 2, 2023 13:05:02 GMT -8
Welp, looks like the Pac is officially dead now. It’s obviously infuriating that all the traditions, rivalries, geography, and common sense, etc. have been cast to the side by our former leaguemates in pursuit of the Almighty dollar. 🤦🏼♂️ But that’s where we are. Of the (limited) available options, I say just join up with the Mountain West and call it a day. Wazzu will probably come too. Yes, the financial hit, prestige hit, etc. totally sucks. But look on the bright side - in this conference, OSU will be one of the top schools, and should be in the running for league titles in football and baseball every year, among other sports. 👍🏻 And as much as we dearly love our Beavs, we were not really a premier Pac-12 program in most sports (baseball being a notable exception). The geography still makes sense, we’re a good cultural fit, and the Beavs could be set up to really kick ass in our new conference. So **** the Ducks and all the other Benedict Arnolds who destroyed a 100-year old conference - a pox on their houses, always and forever. But they’re all in the rearview mirror now. Embrace a future with the MWC and get ready to start kicking some ass. LET’S GO, BEAVS!!!!! 😎👍🏻 Baring a Christmas Miracle from the Big 12, it seems the obvious move...It's all 'how' it happens, In particular, do we quit the conference and join them, or do they dissolve their conference and join the Pac-12? Lots of potential money issues depending on how it happens. |
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Post by korculabeav on Sept 2, 2023 13:58:44 GMT -8
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Post by drunkandstoopidbeav on Sept 2, 2023 14:35:06 GMT -8
Welp, looks like the Pac is officially dead now. It’s obviously infuriating that all the traditions, rivalries, geography, and common sense, etc. have been cast to the side by our former leaguemates in pursuit of the Almighty dollar. 🤦🏼♂️ But that’s where we are. Of the (limited) available options, I say just join up with the Mountain West and call it a day. Wazzu will probably come too. Yes, the financial hit, prestige hit, etc. totally sucks. But look on the bright side - in this conference, OSU will be one of the top schools, and should be in the running for league titles in football and baseball every year, among other sports. 👍🏻 And as much as we dearly love our Beavs, we were not really a premier Pac-12 program in most sports (baseball being a notable exception). The geography still makes sense, we’re a good cultural fit, and the Beavs could be set up to really kick ass in our new conference. So **** the Ducks and all the other Benedict Arnolds who destroyed a 100-year old conference - a pox on their houses, always and forever. But they’re all in the rearview mirror now. Embrace a future with the MWC and get ready to start kicking some ass. LET’S GO, BEAVS!!!!! 😎👍🏻 Baring a Christmas Miracle from the Big 12, it seems the obvious move...It's all 'how' it happens, In particular, do we quit the conference and join them, or do they dissolve their conference and join the Pac-12? Lots of potential money issues depending on how it happens. They dissolve and join us. The other way around is much worse for us and likely worse for them. |
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Post by ftd on Sept 2, 2023 14:38:12 GMT -8
Baring a Christmas Miracle from the Big 12, it seems the obvious move...It's all 'how' it happens, In particular, do we quit the conference and join them, or do they dissolve their conference and join the Pac-12? Lots of potential money issues depending on how it happens. They dissolve and join us. The other way around is much worse for us and likely worse for them. I agree..Let's hope they see it that way too |
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Post by Henry Skrimshander on Sept 2, 2023 14:46:07 GMT -8
 Take it from the expert. A reverse merger is the way to go. |
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Post by p8nted on Sept 2, 2023 14:48:42 GMT -8
They dissolve and join us. The other way around is much worse for us and likely worse for them. I agree..Let's hope they see it that way too That is the consensus of MWC fans of what will happen on their conference message board. Very active place |
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Post by drunkandstoopidbeav on Sept 2, 2023 15:03:01 GMT -8
They dissolve and join us. The other way around is much worse for us and likely worse for them. I agree..Let's hope they see it that way too They would basically be stupid not to if Apple is willing to do a half way reasonable contract. Apple was willing to go 25 mil a team, with 9 teams, with several teams that were doing worse than several MWC teams. Apple could go half that per team, get more content, and save a ton of money. |
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Post by korculabeav on Sept 2, 2023 15:07:11 GMT -8
Take it from the expert. A reverse merger is the way to go. LOL. In all seriousness, actual reverse mortgages are a complete scam and ripoff. |
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Post by wilkyisdashiznit on Sept 2, 2023 15:11:26 GMT -8
Take it from the expert. A reverse merger is the way to go. LOL. In all seriousness, actual reverse mortgages are a complete scam and ripoff. It really depends on the situation. They certainly are not for everyone. But if you get in the right one, it's basically free money to you and let your heirs clean up the mess on the back end. |
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Post by NativeBeav on Sept 2, 2023 15:34:52 GMT -8
LOL. In all seriousness, actual reverse mortgages are a complete scam and ripoff. It really depends on the situation. They certainly are not for everyone. But if you get in the right one, it's basically free money to you and let your heirs clean up the mess on the back end. Like the bumper sticker "We are spending our kids' inheritance?"  |
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Post by korculabeav on Sept 2, 2023 16:37:44 GMT -8
LOL. In all seriousness, actual reverse mortgages are a complete scam and ripoff. It really depends on the situation. They certainly are not for everyone. But if you get in the right one, it's basically free money to you and let your heirs clean up the mess on the back end. well summarized |
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Post by Judge Smails on Sept 2, 2023 17:31:05 GMT -8
LOL. In all seriousness, actual reverse mortgages are a complete scam and ripoff. It really depends on the situation. They certainly are not for everyone. But if you get in the right one, it's basically free money to you and let your heirs clean up the mess on the back end. There’s not much of a mess for your heirs. The just don’t get the house they thought they were getting. Unless, you told them 😃 |
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Post by korculabeav on Sept 2, 2023 17:37:18 GMT -8
It really depends on the situation. They certainly are not for everyone. But if you get in the right one, it's basically free money to you and let your heirs clean up the mess on the back end. There’s not much of a mess for your heirs. The just don’t get the house they thought they were getting. Unless, you told them 😃 The big problem is the steady decline of equity and you are paying a reverse mortgage fee of 7 to 11%. It is the opposite of retirement assets/investments making someone a positive return on the principal they draw against. Fred Thompson sold a bad bill of goods in the 1990’s. |
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Post by Judge Smails on Sept 2, 2023 17:55:32 GMT -8
There’s not much of a mess for your heirs. The just don’t get the house they thought they were getting. Unless, you told them 😃 The big problem is the steady decline of equity and you are paying a reverse mortgage fee of 7 to 11%. It is the opposite of retirement assets/investments making someone a positive return on the principal they draw against. Fred Thompson sold a bad bill of goods in the 1990’s. It should be a last option for people, but you can get lower fees than that. And, it does work for some people. It’s a much more regulated industry than in the Fred Thompson days. |
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