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Post by bvrbooster on Aug 29, 2023 18:27:16 GMT -8
Does anybody know whether it has been rescheduled and, if so, for when?
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Post by spudbeaver on Aug 29, 2023 18:57:28 GMT -8
No, but I for one am sick of all the President/Regent etc meetings. They can all f%#* off as far as I’m concerned.
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Post by bvrbooster on Aug 29, 2023 19:51:32 GMT -8
No, but I for one am sick of all the President/Regent etc meetings. They can all f%#* off as far as I’m concerned. Can't say I disagree with the emotion, but I want this to be over. The sooner the ACC meets, the sooner we rid ourselves of the dead weight of Stanford and Cal, and, therefore, the sooner we learn what we'll be doing in 2024. Then we can get on with it. |
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Post by spudbeaver on Aug 29, 2023 19:53:55 GMT -8
No, but I for one am sick of all the President/Regent etc meetings. They can all f%#* off as far as I’m concerned. Can't say I disagree with the emotion, but I want this to be over. The sooner the ACC meets, the sooner we rid ourselves of the dead weight of Stanford and Cal, and, therefore, the sooner we learn what we'll be doing in 2024. Then we can get on with it. Don't disagree. |
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Post by EmeraldEmpire on Aug 29, 2023 20:04:13 GMT -8
No, but I for one am sick of all the President/Regent etc meetings. They can all f%#* off as far as I’m concerned. Can't say I disagree with the emotion, but I want this to be over. The sooner the ACC meets, the sooner we rid ourselves of the dead weight of Stanford and Cal, and, therefore, the sooner we learn what we'll be doing in 2024. Then we can get on with it. I was listening to Canzano interview the Wazzu prez on my way home from work today and he indicated they want to take their time with the realignment decision and it may not happen for several weeks: |
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Post by irimi on Aug 29, 2023 20:28:39 GMT -8
Can't say I disagree with the emotion, but I want this to be over. The sooner the ACC meets, the sooner we rid ourselves of the dead weight of Stanford and Cal, and, therefore, the sooner we learn what we'll be doing in 2024. Then we can get on with it. I was listening to Canzano interview the Wazzu prez on my way home from work today and he indicated they want to take their time with the realignment decision and it may not happen for several weeks: A rebuild won’t be quick. The cynical side of me suspects OSU and WSU are trying to calculate how much money they’ll get to work with for luring teams. |
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Post by wilkyisdashiznit on Aug 29, 2023 21:04:57 GMT -8
I was listening to Canzano interview the Wazzu prez on my way home from work today and he indicated they want to take their time with the realignment decision and it may not happen for several weeks: A rebuild won’t be quick. The cynical side of me suspects OSU and WSU are trying to calculate how much money they’ll get to work with for luring teams. Big 12 had everything worked out beforehand. The Big Ten had everything worked out beforehand. The Big East went down to three teams in 2011 but had invites out to get back up to seven within five days and had an invite out for an eighth team 12 days after that. Now, that fell through, and it took another 3 1/2 months to find a replacement (if it gets too close to Thanksgiving, things tend to slow down for awhile), but.......... With the correct pre-planning and the right breaks, rebuilds can be extremely fast. |
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Post by drunkandstoopidbeav on Aug 29, 2023 21:12:43 GMT -8
A rebuild won’t be quick. The cynical side of me suspects OSU and WSU are trying to calculate how much money they’ll get to work with for luring teams. Big 12 had everything worked out beforehand. The Big Ten had everything worked out beforehand. The Big East went down to three teams in 2011 but had invites out to get back up to seven within five days and had an invite out for an eighth team 12 days after that. Now, that fell through, and it took another 3 1/2 months to find a replacement (if it gets too close to Thanksgiving, things tend to slow down for awhile), but.......... With the correct pre-planning and the right breaks, rebuilds can be extremely fast. I think once Stanford and Cal make up their minds and actually announce they're leaving, it'll be real fast. They are the holdup. |
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Post by RenoBeaver on Aug 29, 2023 21:13:24 GMT -8
What can the MWC get for their next contract..7M to 8M per team?
That's what the AAC is and their locked in til 2032 or thereabouts.
Rebuild the Pac with best of what's left has to be best option, with or without Bay Area whores.
It may take 2 to 3 years but you could make a conference with a decent amount of teams that have finished in top 25 ande even played in BCS games and/or finished in top 10.
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Post by wilkyisdashiznit on Aug 29, 2023 21:25:03 GMT -8
What can the MWC get for their next contract..7M to 8M per team? That's what the AAC is and their locked in til 2032 or thereabouts. Rebuild the Pac with best of what's left has to be best option, with or without Bay Area whores. It may take 2 to 3 years but you could make a conference with a decent amount of teams that have finished in top 25 ande even played in BCS games and/or finished in top 10. No one's locked into anything. The AAC numbers are $8 million per year, if SMU stays. But that number goes up, if SMU leaves. And, if it doesn't, SMU has to make up the difference with their buyout, which I believe is probably what is really tripping up the ACC in working this all out. No one knows what the Mountain West is going to make in three years. It would be nice to renegotiate something to have some clarity that will guarantee the $14+ million/year, which I think that Oregon State is worth without California and Stanford. |
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Post by bvrbooster on Aug 29, 2023 22:21:31 GMT -8
If WSU and OSU don't have things lined up right now for when Cal and Stanford bail, they are run by incompetents. As best you can, you have to control events, not let events control you. I'm not buying that October 1 line at all, and I don't know why you'd utter it in public. I would have to guess that there are recruits in several sports that want to finalize their commitment very early in their senior year to avoid distraction. Who the hell would commit to a school where the president is saying that maybe they'll have a home 4 1/2 weeks from now - or maybe they won't.
As I've posted elsewhere, after the betrayal by the bay becomes a done deal, there will be 2 - count 'em, 2 - schools in D1 with no home and no schedules for 2024. And this idiot wants to take his sweet ass time? That's lunacy!
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Post by wilkyisdashiznit on Aug 29, 2023 22:45:26 GMT -8
If WSU and OSU don't have things lined up right now for when Cal and Stanford bail, they are run by incompetents. As best you can, you have to control events, not let events control you. I'm not buying that October 1 line at all, and I don't know why you'd utter it in public. I would have to guess that there are recruits in several sports that want to finalize their commitment very early in their senior year to avoid distraction. Who the hell would commit to a school where the president is saying that maybe they'll have a home 4 1/2 weeks from now - or maybe they won't. As I've posted elsewhere, after the betrayal by the bay becomes a done deal, there will be 2 - count 'em, 2 - schools in D1 with no home and no schedules for 2024. And this idiot wants to take his sweet ass time? That's lunacy! You will correct me, if I am wrong, but the only schools with a 2024 schedule are the SEC schools. And "homes" are largely irrelevant without schedules. Everyone is taking their sweet ass time, because everyone wants to get this as right as possible. |
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Post by drunkandstoopidbeav on Aug 29, 2023 22:50:42 GMT -8
And we do have 3 games scheduled I believe.
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Post by 2ndGenBeaver on Aug 29, 2023 22:54:52 GMT -8
My suspicion is that after the ACC wait a "suitable" amount of time out of respect for the UNC shooting victim (no disrespect intended - esp. having been in a doctoral program, I can attest to lots of potential tension between students and advisors - especially as the years mount.....), the ACC will convene, one or more votes will have flipped, and Stanford, Cal and SMU will heave a sigh of relief at having "landed". And then they too will discover, per the late great England Dan Seals that "everything that glitters is not gold". Not that it will matter to us or WSU. If we (and perhaps more acutely, WSU) can make the numbers work for a couple years, it seems like the MWC is where we land - preserves some semblance of regionality, some like-minded (land grant research) schools, and a (relatively) short runway to the next TV contract. Or create a Pac-MWC conference to keep the name alive for the next round of contract negotiations and school invites/realignment. But to the point made earlier, being the last school with certainty or a semblance of a 2024 schedule is probably not where we want to be all season long..... My wife and I had a retirement "plan" of taking in Pac-12 road games as a pastime (we've done Cal and Stanford as a dry run thanks to family in the Bay Area). It's not the worst thing in the world to go to Logan, Ft. Collins, San Diego, Vegas, Reno - might all be superior destinations to LA :-). And in a few years, who knows where we will be journeying to?
Go Beavers!!
(note - no idea why this message has this formatting issue - attempted to edit and change, but not sure I grok the issue) |
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Post by wilkyisdashiznit on Aug 29, 2023 22:57:53 GMT -8
And we do have 3 games scheduled I believe. Although one is a road trip to Boise. I am assuming that Oregon State could replace the game with a trip to Seattle, just to royally piss off the cut off your nose to spite your face / vengeance at all costs crowd. I am hoping that that could gross Oregon State a cool $2+ million to help offset some of the lost media revenue. |
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