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Post by bvrbooster on Aug 10, 2023 14:44:28 GMT -8
I've said before I will say again. There are going to be lawsuits. For what? Anyone was free to leave the conference after this year. The $420 million comes to mind.
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Post by ee1990 on Aug 10, 2023 17:35:36 GMT -8
cut back on beer.....it's a win win yeah, that's not gonna happen.
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Post by ee1990 on Aug 10, 2023 17:36:50 GMT -8
For what? Anyone was free to leave the conference after this year. The $420 million comes to mind. I don't understand why people think the remaining 4 have any right to the money that was slotted to all conference members as a whole through the 23-24 season. They aren't leaving until after that money is allocated to them per the contract.
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Post by cake on Aug 10, 2023 17:46:18 GMT -8
For what? Anyone was free to leave the conference after this year. Only legal action that could have any meaning would come from Salem... in OSU's case. But, then that would counter their own move a decade ago that allowed Oregon to decide its own fate. that plus oregon and Washington leaning toward going along with the Apple deal before Fox told them to reject it because they found some more money. Another thing people ignore, we just spent $150M+ on the football stadium. If we get left out, why would...I don't know, Wake Forest or Georgia Tech spend on football? Even if we're the most misfit of the misfit toys, we're going to the Big 12.
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Post by sparty on Aug 10, 2023 18:15:11 GMT -8
For what? Anyone was free to leave the conference after this year. I don't think there is any question Fox conspired with the Big Ten and Big 12 to kill off the Pac-12 Conference. Proving that is another kettle of fish. But sometimes you don't have to prove it. Sometimes you just have to make the guy you're suing think you can prove it and make them see it's easier to settle than take a chance with a jury. If that settlement is full and equal membership in the Big 12, I'd take that. There will be plenty of excellent antitrust attorneys who see the payout from a settlement that could be in the hundreds of millions, when actual and punitive damages are figures as reason to represent us and Wazzu. Fox sports revenue is anywhere from one billion to two billion per year. I think it would be a case of team of lawyers against teams of lawyers and and years years in court. Do you want the University to spend tens of millions and years in litigation. The pac-12 conference killed itself. Sue the athletics directors and schools Presidents for lack of oversight for the fraud that was making the decisions in the pac-12 conference. Sue a conference and you will never play a team in that conference again let alone ever belong to one.
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Post by Henry Skrimshander on Aug 10, 2023 18:18:26 GMT -8
Oregon State is represented by lawyers from the state, not the institution.
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Post by sparty on Aug 10, 2023 18:20:22 GMT -8
The $420 million comes to mind. I don't understand why people think the remaining 4 have any right to the money that was slotted to all conference members as a whole through the 23-24 season. They aren't leaving until after that money is allocated to them per the contract. Yeah I don't know where the 420 million dollar rumor comes from. Not one word from the media on that story and people like Canzano who is in the know has not heard that from his sources yet. And he has stellar sources because he all ways makes a point to tell us he does.
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Post by Henry Skrimshander on Aug 10, 2023 18:25:12 GMT -8
I don't understand why people think the remaining 4 have any right to the money that was slotted to all conference members as a whole through the 23-24 season. They aren't leaving until after that money is allocated to them per the contract. Yeah I don't know where the 420 million dollar rumor comes from. Not one word from the media on that story and people like Canzano who is in the know has not heard that from his sources yet. And he has stellar sources because he all ways makes a point to tell us he does. From Canzano's 8/5 column: Q: San Diego State was so patient waiting for what seemed to be a most likely invite. Do you envision SDSU teaming up with the remaining Pac-12 teams? What’s the next step? — @newsmanlou A: I was in contact with both San Diego State and SMU on Friday morning during that fateful Pac-12 CEO Group meeting. Both schools were told to be on standby. One or both was going to be added via expansion. I still think that could happen, but both schools might be hesitant without solid financial guarantees. SDSU and any other MWC teams would come with a $34 million buyout if they were to join in time for the 2024 football season. There is a significant war chest available to the four remaining schools, however. A big chunk of media-rights distributions, payments and postseason distributions that were due to the Pac-12 in the next distribution could end up in the hands of the four remaining members.
The estimated total: $420 million.
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Post by ee1990 on Aug 10, 2023 18:27:14 GMT -8
Yeah I don't know where the 420 million dollar rumor comes from. Not one word from the media on that story and people like Canzano who is in the know has not heard that from his sources yet. And he has stellar sources because he all ways makes a point to tell us he does. From Canzano's 8/5 column: Q: San Diego State was so patient waiting for what seemed to be a most likely invite. Do you envision SDSU teaming up with the remaining Pac-12 teams? What’s the next step? — @newsmanlou A: I was in contact with both San Diego State and SMU on Friday morning during that fateful Pac-12 CEO Group meeting. Both schools were told to be on standby. One or both was going to be added via expansion. I still think that could happen, but both schools might be hesitant without solid financial guarantees. SDSU and any other MWC teams would come with a $34 million buyout if they were to join in time for the 2024 football season. There is a significant war chest available to the four remaining schools, however. A big chunk of media-rights distributions, payments and postseason distributions that were due to the Pac-12 in the next distribution could end up in the hands of the four remaining members.
The estimated total: $420 million.But that next distribution is going to occur before August 1 2024 when the hateful 8 leave. That's when our media deal expires, and when our guaranteed playoff spot expires. There's a reason they are leaving officially in August '24. 420 million reasons. This will also mean the $70,000,000 owed to Comcast will be split between all 12 schools.
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Post by sparty on Aug 10, 2023 18:29:39 GMT -8
Yeah I don't know where the 420 million dollar rumor comes from. Not one word from the media on that story and people like Canzano who is in the know has not heard that from his sources yet. And he has stellar sources because he all ways makes a point to tell us he does. From Canzano's 8/5 column: Q: San Diego State was so patient waiting for what seemed to be a most likely invite. Do you envision SDSU teaming up with the remaining Pac-12 teams? What’s the next step? — @newsmanlou A: I was in contact with both San Diego State and SMU on Friday morning during that fateful Pac-12 CEO Group meeting. Both schools were told to be on standby. One or both was going to be added via expansion. I still think that could happen, but both schools might be hesitant without solid financial guarantees. SDSU and any other MWC teams would come with a $34 million buyout if they were to join in time for the 2024 football season. There is a significant war chest available to the four remaining schools, however. A big chunk of media-rights distributions, payments and postseason distributions that were due to the Pac-12 in the next distribution could end up in the hands of the four remaining members.
The estimated total: $420 million.I feel better that it came from Canzanos stellar sources. .....could end up in the hands of the four remaining members. Emphasis....could.
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Post by giantkillers83 on Aug 10, 2023 18:32:16 GMT -8
If there were a way to go after the USC President for sabotaging conference expansion 2 years ago while secretly negotiating an exit, that'd be nice. UCLA, maybe? Otherwise, most everything else was kind of a known possibility. Was really their AD that drove that….. over years. His intro presser placed a shot across the bow… like 5 years ago…. “SC will take care of SC…. “
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Post by sparty on Aug 10, 2023 18:33:30 GMT -8
From Canzano's 8/5 column: Q: San Diego State was so patient waiting for what seemed to be a most likely invite. Do you envision SDSU teaming up with the remaining Pac-12 teams? What’s the next step? — @newsmanlou A: I was in contact with both San Diego State and SMU on Friday morning during that fateful Pac-12 CEO Group meeting. Both schools were told to be on standby. One or both was going to be added via expansion. I still think that could happen, but both schools might be hesitant without solid financial guarantees. SDSU and any other MWC teams would come with a $34 million buyout if they were to join in time for the 2024 football season. There is a significant war chest available to the four remaining schools, however. A big chunk of media-rights distributions, payments and postseason distributions that were due to the Pac-12 in the next distribution could end up in the hands of the four remaining members.
The estimated total: $420 million.But that next distribution is going to occur before August 1 2024 when the hateful 8 leave. That's when our media deal expires, and when our guaranteed playoff spot expires. There's a reason they are leaving officially in August '24. 420 million reasons. This will also mean the $70,000,000 owed to Comcast will be split between all 12 schools. As long as your a member up to the last day the contract in the pac ends for everyone then everyone gets the spoils. They would be out in June if it was not for that. Because there is no pac-12 after that unless the four left write a new contract and that would be a separate document.
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Post by ee1990 on Aug 10, 2023 18:34:41 GMT -8
From Canzano's 8/5 column: Q: San Diego State was so patient waiting for what seemed to be a most likely invite. Do you envision SDSU teaming up with the remaining Pac-12 teams? What’s the next step? — @newsmanlou A: I was in contact with both San Diego State and SMU on Friday morning during that fateful Pac-12 CEO Group meeting. Both schools were told to be on standby. One or both was going to be added via expansion. I still think that could happen, but both schools might be hesitant without solid financial guarantees. SDSU and any other MWC teams would come with a $34 million buyout if they were to join in time for the 2024 football season. There is a significant war chest available to the four remaining schools, however. A big chunk of media-rights distributions, payments and postseason distributions that were due to the Pac-12 in the next distribution could end up in the hands of the four remaining members.
The estimated total: $420 million.I feel better that it came from Canzanos stellar sources. .....could end up in the hands of the four remaining members. Emphasis....could. The media deals with fox and espn expire 7/1/24. No teams are leaving until after 8/1/24. That is the date stipulated in the conference agreement after which there are no penalties for leaving.
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Post by ee1990 on Aug 10, 2023 18:35:16 GMT -8
If there were a way to go after the USC President for sabotaging conference expansion 2 years ago while secretly negotiating an exit, that'd be nice. UCLA, maybe? Otherwise, most everything else was kind of a known possibility. Was really their AD that drove that….. over years. Stanford and Cal are the ones who voted to not take Oklahoma and Texas when we had the opportunity 10 years ago or whenever. There's a lot of blame to go around.
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Post by sparty on Aug 10, 2023 18:37:00 GMT -8
I feel better that it came from Canzanos stellar sources. .....could end up in the hands of the four remaining members. Emphasis....could. The media deals with fox and espn expire 7/1/24. No teams are leaving until after 8/1/24. That is the date stipulated in the conference agreement after which there are no penalties for leaving. Exactly the way it reads...
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