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Post by nuclearbeaver on Aug 5, 2023 12:16:59 GMT -8
OSU should just go independent. Continue to play all Pac schools out of conference, except Hole and USuCk. Add in a few G5 games each season and we're basically where we are now without a CCG to deal with. Go 11-1 or 12-0 with that kind of schedule and they would still have to consider us for the playoff, and we wouldn't have to deal with any revenue sharing at all. Just go it alone. Couldn't be any worse than treading water in the MWC. There's a lot of cost with independence we probably can't handle. Broadcast and officials being the front facing ones. Put that across all sports and we just do t have the endowment for that |
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Post by nuclearbeaver on Aug 5, 2023 12:17:57 GMT -8
. Those same teams did the exact same thing, why would that be different? with all due respect that is not true. All Pac 10 schools (except UW) were going to sign the deal. UW was staying or going based on what Oregon decided. So...not the same Except the 3 schools that already left and Arizona who also refused? |
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Post by fridaynightlights on Aug 5, 2023 12:20:42 GMT -8
Once the emotions and anger die down, we will end up scheduling Oregon, too much to gain financially and exposure wise. Similar to Gonzaga in basketball and BSU in football, they play in relatively weak conferences, so it behooves them to play up in their non-conference games. Business 101, don't make decisions when you're emotional and angry.
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Post by rgeorge on Aug 5, 2023 12:22:04 GMT -8
OSU should just go independent. Continue to play all Pac schools out of conference, except Hole and USuCk. Add in a few G5 games each season and we're basically where we are now without a CCG to deal with. Go 11-1 or 12-0 with that kind of schedule and they would still have to consider us for the playoff, and we wouldn't have to deal with any revenue sharing at all. Just go it alone. Couldn't be any worse than treading water in the MWC. Without a conference and not being 11-1, 12-0 ND an indy OSU prob doesn't get a sniff. 6 spots are assigned and guaranteed. The other 6 are highest ranked remaining. With the SEC and B10. Future schedules I can easily see 2, (maybe 3 if all to top 5 type teams) loss teams be ranked ahead of independent OSU. OSU would basically have to schedule 8-9 to tier B12, B10, SEC teams and lose once, win the others without them being "directional" softies. Not happening. The wins or the other conferences allowing that scheduling. Best to be in a conference win it and hope to be in top 12. Then you're guaranteed in. |
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Post by rgeorge on Aug 5, 2023 12:25:16 GMT -8
Plus if you want a $ NC game make it in a recruiting hotbed. That argument does make sense. Unfortunately that means USC/UCLA or UW. Not really... Texas, A&M, Houston, etc. Even middling SEC teams... Arkansas, Miss St types. I'd personally avoid all former Pac12 schools that said they were all in, then left. At least SC & UCLA were open and gave the conference time to adjust. Of course it never did. |
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Post by nuclearbeaver on Aug 5, 2023 13:31:38 GMT -8
That argument does make sense. Unfortunately that means USC/UCLA or UW. Not really... Texas, A&M, Houston, etc. Even middling SEC teams... Arkansas, Miss St types. I'd personally avoid all former Pac12 schools that said they were all in, then left. At least SC & UCLA were open and gave the conference time to adjust. Of course it never did. No thanks. Scheduling road games across the Rockies is a great way to get your ass kicked on national tv. We know that. |
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Post by spudbeaver on Aug 5, 2023 13:51:58 GMT -8
Not really... Texas, A&M, Houston, etc. Even middling SEC teams... Arkansas, Miss St types. I'd personally avoid all former Pac12 schools that said they were all in, then left. At least SC & UCLA were open and gave the conference time to adjust. Of course it never did. No thanks. Scheduling road games across the Rockies is a great way to get your ass kicked on national tv. We know that. Others will learn. |
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Post by irimi on Aug 5, 2023 14:31:21 GMT -8
Plus if you want a $ NC game make it in a recruiting hotbed. That argument does make sense. Unfortunately that means USC/UCLA or UW. Or Texas, Mississippi, FLA |
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Post by irimi on Aug 5, 2023 14:32:41 GMT -8
Once the emotions and anger die down, we will end up scheduling Oregon, too much to gain financially and exposure wise. Similar to Gonzaga in basketball and BSU in football, they play in relatively weak conferences, so it behooves them to play up in their non-conference games. Business 101, don't make decisions when you're emotional and angry. There’s no business anymore. |
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Post by Henry Skrimshander on Aug 5, 2023 15:48:07 GMT -8
with all due respect that is not true. All Pac 10 schools (except UW) were going to sign the deal. UW was staying or going based on what Oregon decided. So...not the same Except the 3 schools that already left and Arizona who also refused? They were all staying if Oregon stayed. They did not leave until Oregon and UW bailed. |
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Post by Henry Skrimshander on Aug 5, 2023 15:54:06 GMT -8
Oregon's not going to pay us a huge guarantee if we play them on a home-and-home basis, which is the only way we should play them.
When they play up here, we give them $100k for expenses and keep the rest.
When we play down there, they give us $100 K for expenses and keep the rest.
That's how it works. You only get the huge payment, like we did at Ohio State, when there is no return game.
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Post by nuclearbeaver on Aug 5, 2023 15:55:54 GMT -8
Oregon's not going to pay us a huge guarantee if we play them on a home-and-home basis, which is the only way we should play them. When they play up here, we give them $100k for expenses and keep the rest. When we play down there, they give us $100 K for expenses and keep the rest. That's how it works. You only get the huge payment, like we did at Ohio State, when there is no return game. Doesn't have to be that way. There's no rules. |
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Post by nuclearbeaver on Aug 5, 2023 15:56:31 GMT -8
Except the 3 schools that already left and Arizona who also refused? They were all staying if Oregon stayed. They did not leave until Oregon and UW bailed. USC, UCLA and Colorado. |
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Post by Henry Skrimshander on Aug 5, 2023 16:04:37 GMT -8
Oregon's not going to pay us a huge guarantee if we play them on a home-and-home basis, which is the only way we should play them. When they play up here, we give them $100k for expenses and keep the rest. When we play down there, they give us $100 K for expenses and keep the rest. That's how it works. You only get the huge payment, like we did at Ohio State, when there is no return game. Doesn't have to be that way. There's no rules. Dude they are not going to pay us $1 million to go there and then take something less in return to play at Reser. Maybe there are no rules but that's how it works. |
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Post by beaverbeliever71 on Aug 5, 2023 16:08:15 GMT -8
My only worry with scheduling Oregon in OOC is that somehow I think they will only do it if all the games are in Eugene and the OSU "home games" get played in Portland. lol
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