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Post by fridaynightlights on Jan 14, 2023 22:09:01 GMT -8
The Beavs have lost 25 out of their last 27 conference games.
A+ for consistency.
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Post by treasurevalleybeav on Jan 14, 2023 22:34:03 GMT -8
I’m sure you know who on here will have some sort of excuse for a coach taking his elite 8 magical run…..and turning it into…..ummm THAT
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Post by wilkyisdashiznit on Jan 14, 2023 23:11:54 GMT -8
The Beavs have lost 25 out of their last 27 conference games. A+ for consistency. Oregon State won 17 of the 27 conference games before the 2021-22 basketball season. You have to include games that GP1 played in, in order to find a better 27-game run. And then you talk about consistency.  |
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Post by treasurevalleybeav on Jan 17, 2023 10:53:43 GMT -8
The fact things were going so well really makes it extra disappointing things have gone so poorly. That should have been a time to BUILD on.....not crash and burn.
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Post by beaverology on Jan 17, 2023 11:37:12 GMT -8
Some people disapproved of the WT hire at the onset. They've never been on board with it. They're the grumblers who complain here during every game and in between games. It's their right to come here and bitch about it with same repetitive material. When the team does good, they're silent. You'd think MBB was a successful program from 1990 thru 2014 and WT had run it into the ground. The opposite is actually true, but some people just like to whine.
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Post by treasurevalleybeav on Jan 17, 2023 12:53:49 GMT -8
Some people disapproved of the WT hire at the onset. They've never been on board with it. They're the grumblers who complain here during every game and in between games. It's their right to come here and bitch about it with same repetitive material. When the team does good, they're silent. You'd think MBB was a successful program from 1990 thru 2014 and WT had run it into the ground. The opposite is actually true, but some people just like to whine. There are some who never gave him a chance in their minds. Sure. Probably not as many as you seem to assume, but yeah, they're out there. But I know a lot of people w/ my way of thinking too. And that's how I liked the hire, I liked that we got some top recruits (the sons) that we certainly wouldn't have gotten otherwise. Making the tourney was amazing a few years back. And if Tres was healthy, that could've been a sweet 16 team imho. But where Tinks lost almost all of my confidence was that disaster last year where his complete lack of leadership began the terrible downslide. If you've been on this board a while, you know I've shared as much as I've been able to regarding what people in that locker room have said. He even tried to blame some of the upperclassman for not handling issues that TInkle and his staff caused by not enforcing basic rules and expectations. Players sitting out when they could have played was just the tip of the iceberg in that disaster of a season. It goes way past the abysmal record. What went on last year was inexcusable for even a first year coach. I have no issue hoping he succeeds and somehow overcomes last year's abomination. But there have to be some results in conference this year. And so far we have one single win......that we was nearly blown by a massive udub comeback naturally using the press. |
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Post by beaver94 on Jan 17, 2023 13:10:34 GMT -8
Some people disapproved of the WT hire at the onset. They've never been on board with it. They're the grumblers who complain here during every game and in between games. It's their right to come here and bitch about it with same repetitive material. When the team does good, they're silent. You'd think MBB was a successful program from 1990 thru 2014 and WT had run it into the ground. The opposite is actually true, but some people just like to whine. There are some who never gave him a chance in their minds. Sure. Probably not as many as you seem to assume, but yeah, they're out there. But I know a lot of people w/ my way of thinking too. And that's how I liked the hire, I liked that we got some top recruits (the sons) that we certainly wouldn't have gotten otherwise. Making the tourney was amazing a few years back. And if Tres was healthy, that could've been a sweet 16 team imho. But where Tinks lost almost all of my confidence was that disaster last year where his complete lack of leadership began the terrible downslide. If you've been on this board a while, you know I've shared as much as I've been able to regarding what people in that locker room have said. He even tried to blame some of the upperclassman for not handling issues that TInkle and his staff caused by not enforcing basic rules and expectations. Players sitting out when they could have played was just the tip of the iceberg in that disaster of a season. It goes way past the abysmal record. What went on last year was inexcusable for even a first year coach. I have no issue hoping he succeeds and somehow overcomes last year's abomination. But there have to be some results in conference this year. And so far we have one single win......that we was nearly blown by a massive udub comeback naturally using the press. I agree with pretty much everything you say here. I'm just curious, with almost an entirely new team of mostly freshman, what type conference results are you wanting to see? I've been a little disappointed with some of the games but not really surprised with what I've seen so far. I'm still hopeful that they can win a few more games. |
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Post by drunkandstoopidbeav on Jan 17, 2023 14:15:04 GMT -8
There are some who never gave him a chance in their minds. Sure. Probably not as many as you seem to assume, but yeah, they're out there. But I know a lot of people w/ my way of thinking too. And that's how I liked the hire, I liked that we got some top recruits (the sons) that we certainly wouldn't have gotten otherwise. Making the tourney was amazing a few years back. And if Tres was healthy, that could've been a sweet 16 team imho. But where Tinks lost almost all of my confidence was that disaster last year where his complete lack of leadership began the terrible downslide. If you've been on this board a while, you know I've shared as much as I've been able to regarding what people in that locker room have said. He even tried to blame some of the upperclassman for not handling issues that TInkle and his staff caused by not enforcing basic rules and expectations. Players sitting out when they could have played was just the tip of the iceberg in that disaster of a season. It goes way past the abysmal record. What went on last year was inexcusable for even a first year coach. I have no issue hoping he succeeds and somehow overcomes last year's abomination. But there have to be some results in conference this year. And so far we have one single win......that we was nearly blown by a massive udub comeback naturally using the press. I agree with pretty much everything you say here. I'm just curious, with almost an entirely new team of mostly freshman, what type conference results are you wanting to see? I've been a little disappointed with some of the games but not really surprised with what I've seen so far. I'm still hopeful that they can win a few more games. Nail on the head. Last year was bad, but this year doing great would be difficult for any coach. In this case Tinkle basically dealt himself the cards he has, but they made the decision to keep him and give him a shot, so we should be watching for realistic improvement. |
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Post by alwaysorange on Jan 17, 2023 15:54:21 GMT -8
Something to think about.
Craig Robinson's league win/loss percentage at oregon state was.362.
Tinkle needs to win 11 of the final 13 league games to surpass that.
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Post by beaver94 on Jan 17, 2023 16:16:57 GMT -8
Something to think about. Craig Robinson's league win/loss percentage at oregon state was.362. Tinkle needs to win 11 of the final 13 league games to surpass that. Something else to think about. Craig Robinson's greatest accomplishment at OSU was a CBI championship. Tinkle led them to the elite 8 of the NCAA tournament. |
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Post by Judge Smails on Jan 17, 2023 16:17:21 GMT -8
Something to think about. Craig Robinson's league win/loss percentage at oregon state was.362. Tinkle needs to win 11 of the final 13 league games to surpass that. And Craig would need to win 4 NCAA tournament games to surpass Tinkle......something to think about. |
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Post by beaverology on Jan 17, 2023 16:18:45 GMT -8
CR was flat-lined for 6 seasons. The CBI was as big as it got. He was a good recruiter, but deserved to be fired. At least WT delivered the best MBB season in the modern era, maybe longer. Were some people really okay with not winning an NCAA tournament game in 40 years? No wonder Barnes was happy.
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Post by drunkandstoopidbeav on Jan 17, 2023 16:28:42 GMT -8
Something to think about. Craig Robinson's league win/loss percentage at oregon state was.362. Tinkle needs to win 11 of the final 13 league games to surpass that. Something to think about. Several significant starters and players on Jay John's final team were major players for Robinson for 3 years. He basically inherited the entire team except Marcel Jones. Tinkle inherited zero starters, zero players who averaged over 4.0 points a game, and all but 1 oft injured player (N'diaye) was out of eligibility or gone after 2 years. Tinkle was also hired well after recruiting season. Year three was a disaster in the making before he was even hired. Eliminate that season and the won loss record looks quite a bit better. If Tinkle could win those 11 games, and the league tournament, and go to another Elite 8 (with one of the youngest teams in the country) there'd still be haters using the "his league record wasn't any better than Robinson's" argument every game they lose next year. "League record" is, and will be, heavily skewed by those 2 bad seasons for a long time even if the team does well from here on. The biggest deal is not having another horrible season again... we'll know if that happens this year a couple of months from now, the rest is just noise. |
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Post by drunkandstoopidbeav on Jan 17, 2023 16:32:41 GMT -8
CR was flat-lined for 6 seasons. The CBI was as big as it got. He was a good recruiter, but deserved to be fired. At least WT delivered the best MBB season in the modern era, maybe longer. Were some people really okay with not winning an NCAA tournament game in 40 years? No wonder Barnes was happy. Gotta remember, his teams really only deserved the CBI once... he got in with just 13 wins once, think he had a winning record going in just once. If Tinkle's brother in law was the US President he'd have been in the CBI or better all but 2 seasons. |
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Post by irimi on Jan 17, 2023 16:42:27 GMT -8
The fact things were going so well really makes it extra disappointing things have gone so poorly. That should have been a time to BUILD on.....not crash and burn. This is how I felt. Whatever happened last year came at the worst possible time for the Beavers. It erased a lot of the good progress and respectability that the team had. Truly unfortunate. |
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