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Post by TheGlove on Dec 1, 2022 21:16:07 GMT -8
Gebbia have any eligibility left?
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Post by ochobeavo on Dec 1, 2022 21:27:40 GMT -8
That’s not the person I am talking about, but that is an example of the concept. He was a DB who went to Montana or Montana State, I think, can't remember his name. Think it was Justin Strong. Ended up at Montana. Don’t know why I remember this but don’t know where I put my car keys.
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Post by spudbeaver on Dec 1, 2022 21:35:16 GMT -8
Quitter. We make it so easy now days for kids to quit. That’s all I have to say.
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Post by irimi on Dec 1, 2022 21:45:53 GMT -8
BG's ceiling is higher. If it's a close call now, BG is going to be way ahead by the end of Fall Camp 2023. CN's skills would flourish in a different system or at a different level of competition. They do not translate against USC and Utah. The safeties are able to creep up too close to the line. I sure hope you are right. Way back in 2020 when he played off the bench just a bit, I thought he was going to be great. But seeing him up close these weeks, I sure hope we just run the ball. BG doesn’t impress me much.
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Post by spudbeaver on Dec 1, 2022 21:49:42 GMT -8
My memory is fuzzy on this, but didn’t we have a guy who had to medically retire with us, he then transferred to a different team and was allowed to play? I think it was toward the end of the Riley years. Chance could be doing something like that. Had to be the Andersen disaster.
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Post by pabeaver on Dec 1, 2022 22:13:55 GMT -8
He was a DB who went to Montana or Montana State, I think, can't remember his name. Think it was Justin Strong. Ended up at Montana. Don’t know why I remember this but don’t know where I put my car keys. That’s the one. Victor Butler’s brother. Didn’t play the last 4 games due to concussion and transferred out. Gave Ovgard also medically retired due to concussion before the next season.
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Post by drunkandstoopidbeav on Dec 1, 2022 23:08:19 GMT -8
I think at one point I'd heard or read somewhere that Gebbia had a pretty darned serius hamstring injury, like tendon detached from bone type injury. I could be mixing him up with another athlete somewhere. Those type of surgeries they basically staple tendon to bone and hope they hold, it's not a fast recovery process. If that's the type he had I'm kinda amazed he got back on the field. Here ya go doc.... www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6591667/To summarize, return to sport at pre-injury level was around 6 months in this study.....I realize maybe his could've not healed properly or something, but he was on the depth chart, suited up, and got mop up duty......I think he was good to go. I'd have to find the article. Seems to me it said he was returning back to practice in the next fall a couple months ahead of expected schedule and reinjured it. Average is average, not specific, some recover more quickly, some take longer. Gebbia's hamstring wasn't your typical hard cut hamstring pull or tear, every injury is potentially different, as can be recovery time. As I said, I can't really remember where I saw it .
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Post by flyfishinbeav on Dec 2, 2022 5:50:14 GMT -8
Here ya go doc.... www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6591667/To summarize, return to sport at pre-injury level was around 6 months in this study.....I realize maybe his could've not healed properly or something, but he was on the depth chart, suited up, and got mop up duty......I think he was good to go. I'd have to find the article. Seems to me it said he was returning back to practice in the next fall a couple months ahead of expected schedule and reinjured it. Average is average, not specific, some recover more quickly, some take longer. Gebbia's hamstring wasn't your typical hard cut hamstring pull or tear, every injury is potentially different, as can be recovery time. As I said, I can't really remember where I saw it . And that's fine....we don't get much info on injuries. It's almost always a guessing game. My issue is you respond like I'm an idiot for suggesting Gebbia could've played. I guess I shouldnt be surprised. It's kinda the norm on this board.
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Post by korculabeav on Dec 2, 2022 6:29:22 GMT -8
We may be over complicating the CN situation. It is pretty simple why CN lost his starting role permanently injury aside. He can’t play well under pressure. In 2021 he was glorious against a usc team that gave him all day to throw. Fast forward one year under a new Lincoln Riley usc D and CN pooped his pants and imploded. Similar performance in other games when a pass rush came after him. Something mentally gets to him preventing him from focusing to make a sound split second decision. Leads to sacks, TFL or bad throws. CN is not going to become Cam Rising anywhere he goes. OSU needs better at QB.
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Post by nuclearbeaver on Dec 2, 2022 6:59:21 GMT -8
Quitter. We make it so easy now days for kids to quit. That’s all I have to say. Aw golly sir. You're right he should sacrifice his opportunities to make you happy. Why would he ride the pine when he can probably get paid to play somewhere else. HHr won't be able to make the NFL or other league sitting. He likely already has his degree so what do we have to offer that has a high probability of happening?
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Post by Bodhisattva on Dec 2, 2022 7:06:43 GMT -8
He could be looking for a NIL payout from a middle of the road school looking for immediate QB help. It may not be huge, but 50-100k to a college kid can really help.
Everyone says it is between Chiles, Ben, and possibly a transfer to compete for starting QB next year. I think Chiles is a long shot. What about Throckmorton, I honestly haven't seen him play at all, could he be in the mix.
We probably need to get some receivers too in the portal, but until we get a QB that may be difficult.
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Post by spudbeaver on Dec 2, 2022 8:07:21 GMT -8
He could be looking for a NIL payout from a middle of the road school looking for immediate QB help. It may not be huge, but 50-100k to a college kid can really help. Everyone says it is between Chiles, Ben, and possibly a transfer to compete for starting QB next year. I think Chiles is a long shot. What about Throckmorton, I honestly haven't seen him play at all, could he be in the mix. We probably need to get some receivers too in the portal, but until we get a QB that may be difficult. Everyone says? Maybe everyone except Coach Smith, who has said it’s wide open next year. And I think you’re nuts if you believe someone is going to give a turnover prone, semi-inaccurate Qb $50-100 large!
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Post by spudbeaver on Dec 2, 2022 8:38:59 GMT -8
Quitter. We make it so easy now days for kids to quit. That’s all I have to say. Aw golly sir. You're right he should sacrifice his opportunities to make you happy. Why would he ride the pine when he can probably get paid to play somewhere else. HHr won't be able to make the NFL or other league sitting. He likely already has his degree so what do we have to offer that has a high probability of happening? That's just my opinion. You have yours. That's fine. But you're wrong about one thing. It has nothing to do with making me happy. At the risk of sounding old, I appreciate when someone fights for something, not just quits and moves on. You're in a fight with Ben Gulbranson and maybe an incoming Freshman for heck sakes! It's not like you're trying to unseat Penix. And last I noticed the NFL wasn't really looking for QB's that can't take care of the ball, sometimes can't even throw it away out of bounds without getting picked, and have questionable accuracy. Having said all that, I think he has promise. I had hoped to see him come back and let Smith and Lindgren work with him to accent his positives and reduce the negatives. If he really wasn't sitting because of a concussion it's a pretty telling sign that he couldn't even beat out a very average Gulbranson.
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Post by Judge Smails on Dec 2, 2022 8:45:36 GMT -8
Aw golly sir. You're right he should sacrifice his opportunities to make you happy. Why would he ride the pine when he can probably get paid to play somewhere else. HHr won't be able to make the NFL or other league sitting. He likely already has his degree so what do we have to offer that has a high probability of happening? That's just my opinion. You have yours. That's fine. But you're wrong about one thing. It has nothing to do with making me happy. At the risk of sounding old, I appreciate when someone fights for something, not just quits and moves on. You're in a fight with Ben Gulbranson and maybe an incoming Freshman for heck sakes! It's not like you're trying to unseat Penix. And last I noticed the NFL wasn't really looking for QB's that can't take care of the ball, sometimes can't even throw it away out of bounds without getting picked, and have questionable accuracy. Having said all that, I think he has promise. I had hoped to see him come back and let Smith and Lindgren work with him to accent his positives and reduce the negatives. If he really wasn't sitting because of a concussion it's a pretty telling sign that he couldn't even beat out a very average Gulbranson. It could just be an issue with medical clearance. He may think that OSU is not going to clear him to play, but someone else will.
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Post by spudbeaver on Dec 2, 2022 8:51:23 GMT -8
That's just my opinion. You have yours. That's fine. But you're wrong about one thing. It has nothing to do with making me happy. At the risk of sounding old, I appreciate when someone fights for something, not just quits and moves on. You're in a fight with Ben Gulbranson and maybe an incoming Freshman for heck sakes! It's not like you're trying to unseat Penix. And last I noticed the NFL wasn't really looking for QB's that can't take care of the ball, sometimes can't even throw it away out of bounds without getting picked, and have questionable accuracy. Having said all that, I think he has promise. I had hoped to see him come back and let Smith and Lindgren work with him to accent his positives and reduce the negatives. If he really wasn't sitting because of a concussion it's a pretty telling sign that he couldn't even beat out a very average Gulbranson. It could just be an issue with medical clearance. He may think that OSU is not going to clear him to play, but someone else will. Yes, it could be a lot of things I suppose. I loved the scrambling ability he has, and really hoped he could improve his obvious deficiencies. Maybe he will somewhere else I guess.
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