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Post by greybeav on Dec 1, 2022 20:32:49 GMT -8
Interesting grayman, and yeah, I was unfair to say "clueless".
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Post by rmancarl on Dec 6, 2022 12:29:22 GMT -8
Well, that's good news if Eggers is right. It will help to get Timea on the court, but from what I've seen so far, she's going to walk into a complete mess. Rueck and the Beavers have a month to find some sort of positive continuity on offense. If they get things on track, it will make Timea's transition to college ball much easier. First time I’ve seen any timeline on Gardiner at all, nice to see something finally. Let me preface this by saying I like Ann Schatz. As a broadcaster though, she misspeaks often, and that can bug the daylight out of me. Saying that though, I'm not sure how many caught what she said during the Jackson State game. On a couple occasions during the game, she said Timea's return would be early January, or late December, and she said from a 'non-sports related' injury. Unless I missed something, that is the only talk I've heard of the injury, or how it may have happened. She also said Bendu had been out because of a knee. Certainly possible, but did she wear any type of knee brace post injury? If not, it may not have been anything a brace would help. Hope to see Timea soon. Beavs need more talented depth! |
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Post by grayman on Dec 6, 2022 14:58:18 GMT -8
First time I’ve seen any timeline on Gardiner at all, nice to see something finally. Let me preface this by saying I like Ann Schatz. As a broadcaster though, she misspeaks often, and that can bug the daylight out of me. Saying that though, I'm not sure how many caught what she said during the Jackson State game. On a couple occasions during the game, she said Timea's return would be early January, or late December, and she said from a 'non-sports related' injury. Unless I missed something, that is the only talk I've heard of the injury, or how it may have happened. She also said Bendu had been out because of a knee. Certainly possible, but did she wear any type of knee brace post injury? If not, it may not have been anything a brace would help. Hope to see Timea soon. Beavs need more talented depth! Yes, she did say that. It definitely goes along with what has been reported by Eggers and possibly others and she probably got the info from either Rueck or the previous report, so I'm inclined to think it's accurate. Bendu was not wearing a brace. Not sure if she had a banged up knee or not. She looks like she's not having any problem with movement, which is good. |
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Post by beaverstever on Dec 6, 2022 15:45:35 GMT -8
That seems like really good news. We'll probably never know the reality, but it makes sense if you look at some logical possibilities. Let's say she had ovarian cyst surgery (NOT STARTING A RUMOR, JUST AN EXAMPLE), it would be sensitive info that's nobody's business, but people in the know might learn what's happening, and be able to then speak confidently on a timeline.
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Post by beav74 on Dec 6, 2022 15:58:43 GMT -8
I know where Eggers got the information.
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Post by willtalk on Dec 10, 2022 6:56:52 GMT -8
In respect to the direction of the OSU woman's basketball program- There are variable factors involved. A major one is that the WCBB field is and has undergone major changes in the last 5 or so years. Almost every other program is having to undergo adjustments. It involves the type and number of players coming out of high school. Also the Covid seasons and the new standards that make transfers much easier. I also believe that the program got away from thier core philosophy which had been working for them, which ironically was the very thing pushed by some of the very posters who are now complaining of the programs direction. The program lost its identity ( it was that very identity that atracted the type of players that made the program successful ) and will take a bit to restore and get on track. Perhaps there needs to be some tweeking along the way.
There was a recent thread on the boneyard about all the upsets in WCBB this season. This was foreseaable, if one was aware of the changes that had already happened in high school and AAU BB, which was eventually going to affect college. Most people that are womans college BB fans do not follow or are aware of the high school feeder system that supplys their players. So it is not that surprising that they are not aware.
By the way, Princton almost upset UConn. So it is possible to have a successful program with the right chemistry trumping superstars.
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Post by beaveragain on Dec 10, 2022 11:35:13 GMT -8
"By the way, Princton almost upset UConn. So it is possible to have a successful program with the right chemistry trumping superstars" Um, with almost UConn's entire starting team sitting on the bench with injuries they still managed to win. You think that's parity?
OSU has had three problems, injuries, Covid and transfers.
2019-20 lost both Taya and Brown to injury so no 4 (like this year with no 4).
2020-21 totally messed up year of Covid, but by the end of the year the only teams OSU lost to were in the top 4 in the country.
2021-22 Lost Taylor and so no real 5 and Sasha transfers.
2022-23 4 starters transfer and Timea out with injury.
There are three teams in women's ball who can take these kinds of loses and keep winning. And we aren't Stanford, UConn, or S. Carolina. Look at Texas this year, they were thought to be a top four team and lose their starting guard to injury and they lose. Get her back and lose Taylor and they lose. 99% of the teams can't afford the loses that OSU has had and to go on about "what's happened to OSU" is absurd. There isn't anything wrong with Rueck's coaching, just bad luck and whatever reason that caused the 4 players to transfer last season.
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Post by Werebeaver on Dec 10, 2022 12:07:23 GMT -8
"By the way, Princton almost upset UConn. So it is possible to have a successful program with the right chemistry trumping superstars" Um, with almost UConn's entire starting team sitting on the bench with injuries they still managed to win. You think that's parity? OSU has had three problems, injuries, Covid and transfers. 2019-20 lost both Taya and Brown to injury so no 4 (like this year with no 4). 2020-21 totally messed up year of Covid, but by the end of the year the only teams OSU lost to were in the top 4 in the country. 2021-22 Lost Taylor and so no real 5 and Sasha transfers. 2022-23 4 starters transfer and Timea out with injury. There are three teams in women's ball who can take these kinds of loses and keep winning. And we aren't Stanford, UConn, or S. Carolina. Look at Texas this year, they were thought to be a top four team and lose their starting guard to injury and they lose. Get her back and lose Taylor and they lose. 99% of the teams can't afford the loses that OSU has had and to go on about "what's happened to OSU" is absurd. There isn't anything wrong with Rueck's coaching, just bad luck and whatever reason that caused the 4 players to transfer last season. Also, the loss of Andrea Aquino certainly had an impact. |
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Post by escott58 on Dec 10, 2022 12:18:39 GMT -8
I've finally overcome the "woulda-coulda-shoulda" with Miss Aquino. You never really know, but it was an incredible opportunity lost. The whole story turned out well in the end for her, and we all gained a heart-warming OSU graduate who will be fondly remembered.
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Post by Henry Skrimshander on Dec 11, 2022 18:04:33 GMT -8
I think recruiting plays a big part as well -- particularly evaluations. The level of talent simply does not seem to be where it was 2-3 seasons ago (and further back, of course). There's definitely talent on this team, but I'm not sure who besides Talia, Raegan, and possibly Bendu (and Jelena on the teams that needed a big) would have logged a lot of minutes on OSU teams excluding this year and last years teams. Hopefully Donovyn and Kennedie will bring immediate impact, but I really think its important we land a really good 2024 class. Hopefully Timea will be cleared soon. I think her skill set will be impactful and needed for this team. Timea, crickets.... Something is a little fishy there me thinks. Seems to be more than a little issue? The longer it goes the less likely we'll see her, something feels hay wire, more serious than a little thing. If not by mid, to later December, I'd bet not this year, if ever... She had an accident on her scooter. Should be back soon. |
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Post by greybeav on Dec 12, 2022 7:35:11 GMT -8
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Post by william44 on Dec 13, 2022 12:43:37 GMT -8
I have felt He needs to open up the offense. When so many have left it makes recruiting a whole different ballgame. We will be at full strength soon. Are we good? It seems there was more leeway Years ago. We really need to attack the basket when pressed. Very few do. I hope we can rebound outlet and score. We tend to pass it around a lot. We do not take the first good shot.
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