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Post by ag87 on Jul 5, 2022 10:19:08 GMT -8
I saw a video on youtube by D1 360. I don't vouch for his numbers at all but he lists ratings for the PAC schools minus the LA schools. I'm only taking an average and he doesn't give OSU a rating for Fox (not sure why - I make an assumption putting us only ahead of Cal and Arizona). The video maker states these are for games from 2012-2021 except 2020. He has eliminated all games against the LA schools and it's only for conference games. So here are the averages of Fox, FS1, ESPN and ESPN2. Numbers are in millions of viewers. Oregon 1.75, Washington 1.47, Utah 1.44, WashingtonState 1.40, Stanford 1.40, OregonState 1.30, California 1.28, ArizonaState 1.23, Colorado 1.22, and Arizona 1.10.
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Post by nuclearbeaver on Jul 5, 2022 10:22:11 GMT -8
Does that include online viewership or just cable?
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Post by ag87 on Jul 5, 2022 10:27:42 GMT -8
Does that include online viewership or just cable? No idea
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Post by nuclearbeaver on Jul 5, 2022 10:41:17 GMT -8
Does that include online viewership or just cable? No idea If so we’re in way better shape than expected. It would also show that the size of the tv market doesn’t really matter, it’s the size of your slice of the market.
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Post by ag87 on Jul 5, 2022 11:24:51 GMT -8
It was a little better than I expected also. It includes the worst 4 years for results of the last 25 years.
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Post by beavheart on Jul 5, 2022 11:35:49 GMT -8
The last 10 years of OSU football is really hurting us right now.
Wouldn't all of these TV "ratings" be effected by when and where your games are being televised? If your school was a Top 25 team during the years listed then your games were on the national channels at prime time. Conversely, if your school was struggling through bad coaching hires and a bad period in the program then your games were only on regional channels (Pac12) and at off times, or even not at all. Seems like a self-fulfilling metric to me. To me it's the only way Utah is relevant right now. If that program fell on hard times the rest of their metrics don't put them in front of really anyone else in the conference.
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Post by bvrbred on Jul 5, 2022 12:44:46 GMT -8
And the Arizona schools are bringing up the bottom. Wonder how the Phoenix media market compares, size-wise, to Salt Lake's? It has to dwarf it. A very good indication that how well the program does on the field matters to viewership. What's going to happen to Utah if Wittingham retires/leaves? Is this another Bill Snyder/K-State situation where the right coach has been the perfect fit for a program otherwise not terribly advantaged?
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Post by wilkyisdashiznit on Jul 5, 2022 13:19:31 GMT -8
And the Arizona schools are bringing up the bottom. Wonder how the Phoenix media market compares, size-wise, to Salt Lake's? It has to dwarf it. A very good indication that how well the program does on the field matters to viewership. What's going to happen to Utah if Wittingham retires/leaves? Is this another Bill Snyder/K-State situation where the right coach has been the perfect fit for a program otherwise not terribly advantaged? Phoenix' media market is more than 96% larger than Salt Lake City's media market, i.e. almost double the size. And Phoenix is one of four media markets in the state of Arizona, whereas Salt Lake City is the only media market in Utah (and Salt Lake City also covers three counties in Idaho and Nevada and four counties in Wyoming). Phoenix and Tucson together are approximately 140% larger than Salt Lake City's media market. The two Whittinghams (more Kyle but Mad Dog, too) have been a godsend to Utah. Ron McBride poached Kyle from Idaho State. After McBride was fired, Utah hired Urban Meyer, who kept Kyle on as DC. After Meyer bolted for Florida, Whittingham took over. Basically Utah has had the same defensive coordinator and special teams coach since 1995, amazing continuity. Kirk Ferentz has been head coach at Iowa longer, but I do not believe that any FBS head coach has been at the same school longer than Kyle at Utah.
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