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Post by irimi on Jun 12, 2022 15:18:49 GMT -8
I don't necessarily disagree with you, but there are many who want to preserve the nuance and character of the game. Just trying to find a happy medium. Also, I think if most umps were subjected to a digital strike zone you would start to see more consistency across the board. Everyone wins. Last thing I want is technology to take over the plate……blue is part of the game….always has been and always will be as far as I am concerned. I’m okay with the coaches being to challenge close calls as they currently allow it but I definitely don’t want to progress where some friggin computer is calling the game So let's look at last night's game as an example. Clearly, the pitchers MUST adjust their pitches to the zone that is in the ump's mind. But the ump was inconsistent, so it was challenging to figure out where the top part of the zone was and the bottom line. But all year long, pitchers are training to just touch those edges, to get the called strike or to have the ball in a location that the batter can't do much with it. Down the middle? Not often. So what that means is you have pitchers training for failure. There's nothing they can do to know what the ump will call a strike and what the ump won't. And we saw the results. Pfennigs was flummoxed. His pitches were strikes, but not by Blue. His "location" was off because he didn't adapt quickly enough. But why should it be incumbent on the pitcher to adapt to a different strike zone every game? I used to think like you, but I don't anymore. It's one part of the game that can be immensely improved without difficulty. And the improvement would mean more consistency for pitchers and batters. Remember the first Auburn game against ND? Auburn would keep their fielder because he wouldn't have turned around to curse at a machine. There are still enough other calls for the ump to screw up. Balls and strikes shouldn't be one. |
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Post by beaver1989 on Jun 12, 2022 15:46:39 GMT -8
Bring on the strike box that you see all over the place.
I use to be for the human element, but now I just want a good & consistent strike zone for everybody.
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Post by beaver55to7 on Jun 12, 2022 15:51:41 GMT -8
I think the ump caused the pitchers problems. Some guys on each team were practically yelling at him. Funny how a bad ump causes us to think we need computers to decide balls and strikes. Most games take over three hours already . Some 4. We just need them to call the zone. I umpired for 4 years in top softball leagues in Nw fast pitch. If a guy is missing the black I would walk out to mound dust it off and let pitcher know. Would stop the questioning of black. I liked quick games well called. Not that hard. “Missing the black”. Just for those that don’t know, the plate is 17 inches wide, which is the width of the white plate, the black bevel is not part of the plate. I think most know this and are just using the black as a euphemism, but not everyone here knows the rules. mlbrulesproject.blogspot.com/2012/05/rule-105.html#:~:text=The%20beveled%20area%20is%20part,black%20beveled%20edge%20upon%20measurement. |
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Post by beaver1989 on Jun 12, 2022 15:54:23 GMT -8
Last thing I want is technology to take over the plate……blue is part of the game….always has been and always will be as far as I am concerned. I’m okay with the coaches being to challenge close calls as they currently allow it but I definitely don’t want to progress where some friggin computer is calling the game So let's look at last night's game as an example. Clearly, the pitchers MUST adjust their pitches to the zone that is in the ump's mind. But the ump was inconsistent, so it was challenging to figure out where the top part of the zone was and the bottom line. But all year long, pitchers are training to just touch those edges, to get the called strike or to have the ball in a location that the batter can't do much with it. Down the middle? Not often. So what that means is you have pitchers training for failure. There's nothing they can do to know what the ump will call a strike and what the ump won't. And we saw the results. Pfennigs was flummoxed. His pitches were strikes, but not by Blue. His "location" was off because he didn't adapt quickly enough. But why should it be incumbent on the pitcher to adapt to a different strike zone every game? I used to think like you, but I don't anymore. It's one part of the game that can be immensely improved without difficulty. And the improvement would mean more consistency for pitchers and batters. Remember the first Auburn game against ND? Auburn would keep their fielder because he wouldn't have turned around to curse at a machine. There are still enough other calls for the ump to screw up. Balls and strikes shouldn't be one. It was Notre Dame & Tennessee not Notre Dame & Auburn. But I know the point you're making & I agree with it. |
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Post by irimi on Jun 12, 2022 16:10:35 GMT -8
So let's look at last night's game as an example. Clearly, the pitchers MUST adjust their pitches to the zone that is in the ump's mind. But the ump was inconsistent, so it was challenging to figure out where the top part of the zone was and the bottom line. But all year long, pitchers are training to just touch those edges, to get the called strike or to have the ball in a location that the batter can't do much with it. Down the middle? Not often. So what that means is you have pitchers training for failure. There's nothing they can do to know what the ump will call a strike and what the ump won't. And we saw the results. Pfennigs was flummoxed. His pitches were strikes, but not by Blue. His "location" was off because he didn't adapt quickly enough. But why should it be incumbent on the pitcher to adapt to a different strike zone every game? I used to think like you, but I don't anymore. It's one part of the game that can be immensely improved without difficulty. And the improvement would mean more consistency for pitchers and batters. Remember the first Auburn game against ND? Auburn would keep their fielder because he wouldn't have turned around to curse at a machine. There are still enough other calls for the ump to screw up. Balls and strikes shouldn't be one. It was Notre Dame & Tennessee not Notre Dame & Auburn. But I know the point you're making & I agree with it. Duh. Thanks for understanding. |
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