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Post by nuclearbeaver on May 29, 2022 17:07:06 GMT -8
If our players are scared of Gonzaga, maybe we should just forfeit. I’m watching the Big 12 Championship and I’d much rather have the Zags then Oklahoma as a 2 seed. Never said Oregon State players were afraid of Gonzaga. Just saying they can cause major problems. Big difference. I just kind of think it’s boring. We’re already 3-1 against them this year and they haven’t seen any of our starters. |
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Post by Judge Smails on May 29, 2022 17:07:27 GMT -8
the lower righthand part of the country bias is amazing. The team density is much higher. It’s more the disrespect of the p12 than a bias to me. P12 has 29 titles of 73 possible. Next closest is the SEC with 14 Big 12 has 9 and ACC has 6. SEC will add Oklahoma and Texas closing the gap to 29 vs 22. That’s right, they add two of the greatest baseball teams in college history and they still won’t be within 5. Even if you go with the ‘what have you done lately’ concept the P12 has 3 In the last 10 years, SEC has 4, ACC has 1 and coastal Carolina got one. Just silly. Those totals are skewed with all of the old USC titles. |
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Post by nuclearbeaver on May 29, 2022 17:21:16 GMT -8
The team density is much higher. It’s more the disrespect of the p12 than a bias to me. P12 has 29 titles of 73 possible. Next closest is the SEC with 14 Big 12 has 9 and ACC has 6. SEC will add Oklahoma and Texas closing the gap to 29 vs 22. That’s right, they add two of the greatest baseball teams in college history and they still won’t be within 5. Even if you go with the ‘what have you done lately’ concept the P12 has 3 In the last 10 years, SEC has 4, ACC has 1 and coastal Carolina got one. Just silly. Those totals are skewed with all of the old USC titles. That’s the same as SEC skewed with the recent ones though. Even if you pull all of USC titles we still lead the SEC 17-14. |
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Post by Henry Skrimshander on May 29, 2022 18:00:26 GMT -8
The team density is much higher. It’s more the disrespect of the p12 than a bias to me. P12 has 29 titles of 73 possible. Next closest is the SEC with 14 Big 12 has 9 and ACC has 6. SEC will add Oklahoma and Texas closing the gap to 29 vs 22. That’s right, they add two of the greatest baseball teams in college history and they still won’t be within 5. Even if you go with the ‘what have you done lately’ concept the P12 has 3 In the last 10 years, SEC has 4, ACC has 1 and coastal Carolina got one. Just silly. Those totals are skewed with all of the old USC titles. Wasn't USC a member of the PCC or the Pac-8 when it won those titles? The only ones that shouldn't count are pre-1976 Arizona and ASU titles (if there are any). |
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Post by lebaneaver on May 29, 2022 18:14:19 GMT -8
Awesome! Expected. Now, for those thinking “the west” gets s%#t on…. yeah….. maybe….. but…… and I’m NOT going to do the math on this…… at LEAST 3/4 of the American population lives EAST of the “big muddy.” It’s simply demographics (and population density). They can HAVE IT!! Go Beavs!!
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Post by wilkyisdashiznit on May 29, 2022 20:51:39 GMT -8
Those totals are skewed with all of the old USC titles. Wasn't USC a member of the PCC or the Pac-8 when it won those titles? The only ones that shouldn't count are pre-1976 Arizona and ASU titles (if there are any). The California teams all joined CIBA and never joined the Pacific Coast Conference. When the Pacific Coast Conference broke apart in the 50s, the remaining teams still stayed together for baseball. And CIBA continued on. The Pac-8 joined together for the 1967 season. But the eight teams only held together for three seasons before breaking apart into divisions again. When Arizona and Arizona State were added, they were added to the South. When Oregon got rid of baseball, the North added Eastern Washington, Gonzaga, Portland and Portland State from the Northern Pacific Conference. The reason that they did that was that they were able to retain the Northern Pacific Conference's automatic bid into the Tournament after one final year of the North team playing the South team for a spot in the Tournament. The Pac-10 North added a Tournament in 1983 and were a de facto separate conference from the South beginning then. Eastern Washington dropped baseball after the 1990 season, and the Pac-10 North dropped the Pac-10 North Tournament after the 1991 season. Pepperdine won a National Championship in 1992, and Gonzaga and Portland, seeing more opportunity in the West Coast Conference left the Pac-10 North for the West Coast Conference between the 1995 and 1996 seasons. The Pac-10 joined back together in 1999 without Portland State. Northern Colorado and Sacramento State were the only two Big Sky members with baseball teams and both were in the WAC. However, no WAC invitation ever arrived for Portland State, so they folded their program. |
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