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Post by Bodhisattva on May 6, 2022 6:14:38 GMT -8
Simply... NO... it's not. There are no comparable matchups at this point. But, their weak NC doesn't take away from 17/20 wins vs Q1 teams and their staff dominating the #1 rated conference. OSU is getting better as a staff, but they can't match UT's. And, their bats vs that #1 conference is also impressive. A nice .535 SA, 48 HRs in 22 conference games. Decent K/BB ratio. I'd love for OSU to get the chance, but the next 9 games will tell more. But, IMHO as of now, their bats vs our arms... advantage UT. Their arms/depth vs our bats... advantage UT. Well 9 of their top 25 RPI wins are against Vandy, Florida (minus their best pitcher), and Georgia Southern. Vandy doesn't have 1 decent series win all year but is top 10 in RPI because they lost to a bunch of good teams. Florida has some good wins but is struggling, not doing well in SEC. Florida and Vandy are both projected as 3 seeds in regionals. Georgia Southern is projected as a 2, but their quality wins are series win Texas St and 1 of 2 against Georgia during midweek. If you look at their record against current top 25, it is 2-1 with the series win over Auburn at home. SEC is just not as good as they have been in the past. ACC might be better than SEC this year. Georgia, Auburn, Arkansas appear to be pretty good but all have flaws. Don't get me wrong Tennessee is very deserving of their praise, but their quality wins might not be as good as they seem. RPI is totally screwed up this year. Rankings just don't match the RPI and for some it isn't even close.
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Post by flyfishinbeav on May 6, 2022 7:12:03 GMT -8
Not that it would've been comparable anyway. Tonight was Tennessee's 10th road game of the year. 10, out of 46. They've played 32 home games. How is that possible…. Yea that's crazy! So all their non conf games were at home I assume.....but what about conf games? So they will be on the road mostly next season for conf series?
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Post by beaverbeliever71 on May 6, 2022 7:43:38 GMT -8
Yea that's crazy! So all their non conf games were at home I assume.....but what about conf games? So they will be on the road mostly next season for conf series? Almost all there Non Conference games were at home but 4. they are 2-2 in Neutral field games utsports.com/sports/baseball/schedule/2022
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Post by Bodhisattva on May 6, 2022 7:57:58 GMT -8
Yea that's crazy! So all their non conf games were at home I assume.....but what about conf games? So they will be on the road mostly next season for conf series? Arkansas only has 9. Pretty typical in SEC. Some of those gaudy numbers that Tennessee pulls up on offense is because they play in such a small park which makes their low team ERA even more impressive.
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Post by Ruh Roh Beav on May 6, 2022 8:02:13 GMT -8
Well hopefully we can meet up with the Vols in Omaha and get a chance to decide this issue once and for all
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Post by ochobeavo on May 6, 2022 9:35:29 GMT -8
Does Joyce actually throw 105? Curious what he throws on those rare occasions when they go play on the road. Have a feeling a few of those radar guns in Knoxville are a bit inflated. Not that 102-103 is anything to sneeze at - he's still bringing it...
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Post by Bodhisattva on May 6, 2022 10:24:51 GMT -8
Does Joyce actually throw 105? Curious what he throws on those rare occasions when they go play on the road. Have a feeling a few of those radar guns in Knoxville are a bit inflated. Not that 102-103 is anything to sneeze at - he's still bringing it... Yeah, he is consistently over 102 and has been clocked 104 on several different guns. It's legit. Crazy that he went under TJ in late 2020. Before that he was only throwing in the mid to upper 90's.
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Post by wilkyisdashiznit on May 6, 2022 11:40:17 GMT -8
According to Warren Nolan, their NC SOS is a dreadful 221. I think our current level of pitching is comparable to theirs. A 105mph flamethrower is impressive, but we have our 4th starting pitcher now, and a very strong bullpen. As long as everyone stays healthy, we are a juggernaut. Add in our top defense, multiple guys who like to steal, our plate patience and propensity to take walks, combined with a flair for timely multiple base hits and getting guys home, and I see a very deep run in Omaha. Simply... NO... it's not. There are no comparable matchups at this point. But, their weak NC doesn't take away from 17/20 wins vs Q1 teams and their staff dominating the #1 rated conference. OSU is getting better as a staff, but they can't match UT's. And, their bats vs that #1 conference is also impressive. A nice .535 SA, 48 HRs in 22 conference games. Decent K/BB ratio. I'd love for OSU to get the chance, but the next 9 games will tell more. But, IMHO as of now, their bats vs our arms... advantage UT. Their arms/depth vs our bats... advantage UT. There is only comparable matchup, Xavier. Tennessee played Xavier midweek but went up against the Friday and Saturday starters (Barnett and Eisenhardt, respectively) and the pitcher that finished up the Friday game (Kelly) for four of the eight innings. All-told, Tennessee faced the pitchers that threw 7/8 innings on Friday and the pitcher that threw the first 4.2 innings on Saturday. The games were played in Surprise and Knoxville. Offensive comparisons: IP H R ER BB SO WP BK HBP AB BF FO GO NPOregon State 11.2 14 10 10 7 7 2 1 3 43 56 11 13 233Tennessee 4 3 2 2 1 5 1 0 0 14 15 3 3 76
BA SLG OBP Oregon State .326 .488 .429 Tennessee .214 .286 .267
Small sample for Tennessee.
Tennessee was 2/3 stealing. Oregon State was 1/4.
Tennessee had no errors. Oregon State had one on the weekend, a throwing error by Bazzana at second that allowed Xavier to score the first run in the Thursday game.
Tennessee won 10-1 with five unearned runs.
Oregon State won 13-3, 9-0 and 5-4. One unearned run on the weekend. The 5-4 game was a 4-0 lead in the eighth until Carpenter gave up three runs (1B, 1B, K and HR) to make things interesting.
Walker scored the only Xavier run after a triple. Walker went 0-8 with four Ks on the weekend in Surprise.
Ben Joyce threw, facing two batters with an inherited runner. 14 pitches. Two strikeouts and two wild pitches, stranding the runner at third. About what you would expect.
The bullpen was strong into the ninth with two pitchers that I do not believe throw that often.
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Post by rainmanrich on May 6, 2022 13:27:48 GMT -8
In a podcast for D1 baseball, they were saying on an 80/20 scale he was a 20 for accuracy. Does Joyce actually throw 105? Curious what he throws on those rare occasions when they go play on the road. Have a feeling a few of those radar guns in Knoxville are a bit inflated. Not that 102-103 is anything to sneeze at - he's still bringing it... Yeah, he is consistently over 102 and has been clocked 104 on several different guns. It's legit. Crazy that he went under TJ in late 2020. Before that he was only throwing in the mid to upper 90's.
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Post by tamatrix on May 6, 2022 13:42:26 GMT -8
In a podcast for D1 baseball, they were saying on an 80/20 scale he was a 20 for accuracy. Yeah, he is consistently over 102 and has been clocked 104 on several different guns. It's legit. Crazy that he went under TJ in late 2020. Before that he was only throwing in the mid to upper 90's. They said he was pre-season 20 but has learned how to pitch and now he's up to what they alluded to of 40-50
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Post by rainmanrich on May 6, 2022 13:55:08 GMT -8
I have selective hearing sometimes. In a podcast for D1 baseball, they were saying on an 80/20 scale he was a 20 for accuracy. They said he was pre-season 20 but has learned how to pitch and now he's up to what they alluded to of 40-50
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Post by wilkyisdashiznit on May 6, 2022 22:57:13 GMT -8
Any chance to match our 2018 season win/loss record now gone for Tennessee. They lose tonight in 13 innings to Kentucky 3-2. In other news, the Kentucky-Tennessee game was suspended in the eighth with Kentucky up 4-2 due to lightning. The game picks up at 11 a.m. PT. The finale will be a seven-inning game after the first game of the morning ends.
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Post by nuclearbeaver on May 7, 2022 7:29:22 GMT -8
Simply... NO... it's not. There are no comparable matchups at this point. But, their weak NC doesn't take away from 17/20 wins vs Q1 teams and their staff dominating the #1 rated conference. OSU is getting better as a staff, but they can't match UT's. And, their bats vs that #1 conference is also impressive. A nice .535 SA, 48 HRs in 22 conference games. Decent K/BB ratio. I'd love for OSU to get the chance, but the next 9 games will tell more. But, IMHO as of now, their bats vs our arms... advantage UT. Their arms/depth vs our bats... advantage UT. Well 9 of their top 25 RPI wins are against Vandy, Florida (minus their best pitcher), and Georgia Southern. Vandy doesn't have 1 decent series win all year but is top 10 in RPI because they lost to a bunch of good teams. Florida has some good wins but is struggling, not doing well in SEC. Florida and Vandy are both projected as 3 seeds in regionals. Georgia Southern is projected as a 2, but their quality wins are series win Texas St and 1 of 2 against Georgia during midweek. SEC is just not as good as they have been in the past. ACC might be better than SEC this year. Georgia, Auburn, Arkansas appear to be pretty good but all have flaws. Don't get me wrong Tennessee is very deserving of their praise, but their quality wins might not be as good as they seem. RPI is totally screwed up this year. Rankings just don't match the RPI and for some it isn't even close. RPI vs ranking is interesting. One of the biggest factors is opponents D1 winning percentage in RPI. As usual the SEC is way ahead in the scheduling game making sure they win games by stacking easy non-conf games at home. This boosts RPI for the whole conference. SOS doesn’t really matter aslong as your opponents are D1 and they have a good record. As far as I understand a team can have a high RPI with a terrible SOS as long as the opponents records are decent. Easier way to say it is there’s no real reward for a quality win vs a win. With rankings it’s mostly just perception. A team like TN hasn’t really been tested but they are #1 due to RPI and record. With most of the SEC keeping a very vanilla non-con schedule there’s no true reference until the post season. This is a bit less true with other conferences who are still doing non-con games with other playoff teams. ACC, Big 12 and PAC 12 play each other a fair amount in non-con plus they play smaller conference powerhouses like Zaga, Dirt Bags, DBU, WSU or GCU. We won’t get a real picture until we find out how many teams make it out of the regionals for each conference
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Post by bennyskid on May 7, 2022 9:12:47 GMT -8
Now that that the season is well along, my favorite rankings are Boyd's World ISR. It's a very clean algorithm that does a really good job of accounting for strength of schedule. For quite a while it has #1-Tenn, #2-OSU. What's striking is that there is a tiny gap between #1 and #2 and a huge gap between #2 and #3. Basically, it's #1-Tennessee, #1a-OSU, #3-Everyone Else. www.boydsworld.com/baseball/isr/currentisr.html
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Post by nuclearbeaver on May 7, 2022 9:13:52 GMT -8
Now that that the season is well along, my favorite rankings are Boyd's World ISR. It's a very clean algorithm that does a really good job of accounting for strength of schedule. For quite a while it has #1-Tenn, #2-OSU. What's striking is that there is a tiny gap between #1 and #2 and a huge gap between #2 and #3. Basically, it's #1-Tennessee, #1a-OSU, #3-Everyone Else. www.boydsworld.com/baseball/isr/currentisr.htmlHadnt seen that one before! Thank you!
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