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Post by clydebeav on May 2, 2022 9:04:15 GMT -8
At the end of the Stanford series, the Beavers had lost 4 of the previous 5 Sunday games. There was a lot of concern about that trend and trying to find a reliable 3rd starter.
The last 2 Sundays, the starter has essentially been a combination of Pfennings/Ferrer. With that combination, I'm feeling pretty confident in all of our weekend starters. Hopefully, at some point, Pfennings is healthy enough to pitch without a limit and Ferrer will have more flexibility (I realize he's not only been pitching on Sunday) to pitch whenever needed.
Pretty excited by the growth of the rest of the bullpen as well with Sebby, Brown, Carpenter and Verburg (not sure what's going on with Lattery).
What are your thoughts regarding our weekend rotation compared to earlier in the year?
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Post by rgeorge on May 2, 2022 10:25:31 GMT -8
At the end of the Stanford series, the Beavers had lost 4 of the previous 5 Sunday games. There was a lot of concern about that trend and trying to find a reliable 3rd starter. The last 2 Sundays, the starter has essentially been a combination of Pfennings/Ferrer. With that combination, I'm feeling pretty confident in all of our weekend starters. Hopefully, at some point, Pfennings is healthy enough to pitch without a limit and Ferrer will have more flexibility (I realize he's not only been pitching on Sunday) to pitch whenever needed. Pretty excited by the growth of the rest of the bullpen as well with Sebby, Brown, Carpenter and Verburg (not sure what's going on with Lattery). What are your thoughts regarding our weekend rotation compared to earlier in the year? I like the progression on the mound. I think they can patch together starts and relievers to get a team to Omaha. I'm more worried about the offense versus postseason pitching staffs. OSU just strikes out too much (8.34/g) and have not faced the top of the Pac12... UCLA (tops in ERA and Ks), Zona (4th/8th), ucks lacking here (6th/9th). At this point OSU is very close to the pace of the school record for Ks in a season from 2021 (8.39/g... 512 in 61 games). Most of our offensive "bursts" result from freebies (BB and HBP). I can't see postseason teams being as generous in that regard. So over the last three series and Pac12 tourney I'll be hoping for more contact to put pressure on the D, and maybe cut the Ks to 5 or less/game?! |
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Post by chinmusic on May 2, 2022 10:54:18 GMT -8
The Beavers have eight or nine healthy arms that can consistently get outs in PAC-12 competition. With maybe the exception of UCLA, nobody else is even close in the conference.
Does good pitching beat good hitting? Analytically no, it's a wash.
Worry about our hitting - specifically 7-8-9 and the DH.
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Post by beaver1989 on May 2, 2022 11:08:40 GMT -8
Our pitchers are getting it done against Pac 12 bats. Here are their numbers after 21 conference games.
ERA WHIP IN H BB SO BA OB%
2.88 .99 190.2 142 46 212 .207 .266
I'm with rgeorge & chinmusic, on being more worried about the bats.(As of today)
That can change with good offensive performances against Oregon, Arizona, & UCLA.
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Post by clydebeav on May 2, 2022 11:13:07 GMT -8
Agree that offense is a bigger concern at this point. Kind of wish the lineup looked something like this:
1. Meckler LF
2. Boyd RF
3. Melton CF
4. Forrester 1B
5. Logan/Smith C
6. Wheeler/Fuchs DH
7. Bazzana 2B
8. Trosky SS
9. Dernedde/Dukart/Gretler 3B
What happened to Guerra?
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Post by chinmusic on May 2, 2022 11:13:30 GMT -8
Strike outs are slightly worse than a fly out or ground out. By putting the ball in play you force the opponent to make a play in executing the putout. Strike outs however, are superior to double play balls.
Most importantly, a K is just another one of your 27 outs surrendered.
Strike outs become irritating when the batter takes good hittable pitches in the zone, or chases bad pitches out of the zone, then takes a hittable 3rd strike with the bat on his shoulder. Have an idea.
If a hitter whiffs 3 times on good pitches in the strike zone, you can live with that - he's swinging the bat.
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Post by 56chevy on May 2, 2022 11:24:02 GMT -8
I think our offense will come around. We squared up a lot of balls on Sunday that were at defenders. The hitters who are struggling a bit saw some first pitch fastballs grooved right down the middle of the plate that were taken. Not sure what they were waiting for. While we've been struggling a bit with the run production, pitching and defense has kept us right on track. We are due at the plate...
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Post by blodgettbeaver on May 2, 2022 11:54:24 GMT -8
I just will never get use to people in the DH spot looking at the 3rd strike (Fuchs seriously works my nerve on that). It is like they think their job is to walk so they are watching pitches on the black.
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Post by rgeorge on May 2, 2022 12:02:12 GMT -8
Agree that offense is a bigger concern at this point. Kind of wish the lineup looked something like this: 1. Meckler LF 2. Boyd RF 3. Melton CF 4. Forrester 1B 5. Logan/Smith C 6. Wheeler/Fuchs DH 7. Bazzana 2B 8. Trosky SS 9. Dernedde/Dukart/Gretler 3B What happened to Guerra? This deep into a season I'm going to say players aren't going to change their "stripes" much. They will have "bumps" in their performances, but will generally settle to the averages they have over 43 games. I'd tend to go more "high school" with OSU's lineup and cut down on the strikeouts with some small ball throughout the game. I've been surprised how inefficient some teams have handled the bunt game defensively. Yet, I'm not real sure who can do what as we've not played much small ball? 1. Meckler... gets on, not great all out base stealer who also is a bit careless 2. Dernedde/Dukart/Trosky... table setters that can handle the bat... Sac, slap, H&R 3. Melton 4. Boyd... wheels and average following wheels and average 5. Forrester 6. Smith 7. Banzana... need to get a bat at the bottom and one who can also get on base multiple ways 8. DH 9. Trosky/Dukart/Dernedde Again... I've not seen enough of several players to know who can actually handle the bat in multiple situations. I just know small can can add to the pressure on the D and cut down on free outs/double plays possibilities. |
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Post by irimi on May 2, 2022 12:08:43 GMT -8
Agree that offense is a bigger concern at this point. Kind of wish the lineup looked something like this: 1. Meckler LF 2. Boyd RF 3. Melton CF 4. Forrester 1B 5. Logan/Smith C 6. Wheeler/Fuchs DH 7. Bazzana 2B 8. Trosky SS 9. Dernedde/Dukart/Gretler 3B What happened to Guerra? I like Trosky at second. I prefer Dernedde's glove at short. I think having two viable third basemen is enough. Dukart and Gretler are good with the glove and can hit--they just don't hit as often as we would like. So the real question is what is up with Bazzana. If he's just struggling, then let's go with Trosky at second and wait for Bazzana to return to his old form. I would consider playing him at DH for a bit. I don't think Fuchs or Wheeler have a lock on that spot. |
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Post by badwack on May 2, 2022 12:10:09 GMT -8
I don't have the numbers but on a 3 and 2 count Fuchs will take a 3rd. strike. It amazing me. Whatever Meckler is doing or drinking he should be sharing with everyone. He makes contact! Donkey is finally driving the ball. Pulling the ball and not soo late with his swing. Something has changed with Melton and Bazz. Both are not driving the ball like they were early in the year. Trosky has been a spark but doesn't appear to have a real SS arm. With my outstanding wisdom (huh) I would consider using Duckart at SS. I still think he as the ability to be a real stud at the plate. We need a DH who makes solid contact all the time. Fix Melton and Bazz, get production out of SS and then we can talk about a real run in the Playoffs. Just saying.....
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Post by irimi on May 2, 2022 12:12:15 GMT -8
At the end of the Stanford series, the Beavers had lost 4 of the previous 5 Sunday games. There was a lot of concern about that trend and trying to find a reliable 3rd starter. The last 2 Sundays, the starter has essentially been a combination of Pfennings/Ferrer. With that combination, I'm feeling pretty confident in all of our weekend starters. Hopefully, at some point, Pfennings is healthy enough to pitch without a limit and Ferrer will have more flexibility (I realize he's not only been pitching on Sunday) to pitch whenever needed. Pretty excited by the growth of the rest of the bullpen as well with Sebby, Brown, Carpenter and Verburg (not sure what's going on with Lattery). What are your thoughts regarding our weekend rotation compared to earlier in the year? My thoughts are pretty much the same as at the beginning of the year. We have had players develop and fill our needs. That will continue to happen. We have a strong bullpen that has only gotten better. Folks should take a good look at what our pitching staff was like last year and what it has accomplished this year. Dorman has really proven his worth. |
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Post by irimi on May 2, 2022 12:18:39 GMT -8
I don't have the numbers but on a 3 and 2 count Fuchs will take a 3rd. strike. It amazing me. Whatever Meckler is doing or drinking he should be sharing with everyone. He makes contact! Donkey is finally driving the ball. Pulling the ball and not soo late with his swing. Something has changed with Melton and Bazz. Both are not driving the ball like they were early in the year. Trosky has been a spark but doesn't appear to have a real SS arm. With my outstanding wisdom (huh) I would consider using Duckart at SS. I still think he as the ability to be a real stud at the plate. We need a DH who makes solid contact all the time. Fix Melton and Bazz, get production out of SS and then we can talk about a real run in the Playoffs. Just saying..... I agree with your comments about Dukart...except playing him at shortstop. I like the kid and think he has a lot of potential. Gretler, too. I'd really like both of these guys to get in more regularly. Duke's 3 triples in half as many at bats as anyone else on the team with 3 triples is impressive. Gretler's last homer--a slash homer--was impressive. Put one at DH and the other on 3rd and be done with it. |
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Post by wilkyisdashiznit on May 2, 2022 12:43:15 GMT -8
I just will never get use to people in the DH spot looking at the 3rd strike (Fuchs seriously works my nerve on that). It is like they think their job is to walk so they are watching pitches on the black. I was looking at strikeouts as a percentage of outs. Thomas Dukart has struck out each time that he has climbed into the batter's box. Second is Paul Myro IV, striking out at an 88% clip. Third is Mason Guerra striking out at a 68% clip. Fourth is Brady Kasper striking out at a 56% clip. Fifth is Greg Fuchs striking out at a 41% clip. This is probably why you are not seeing Thomas, Myro, Guerra and Kasper all that much. Among players with more than one at bat, Guerra is fourth on the team in OBP. Fuchs is eighth. Myro is 10th. Trosky is 11th. Dernedde is 13th. Kasper is 14th. Gretler is 17th. Thomas Dukart is dead last, 18th. You have to play Fuchs or Guerra at DH. They get on. Both also strike out a lot. |
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Post by clydebeav on May 2, 2022 12:55:33 GMT -8
I just will never get use to people in the DH spot looking at the 3rd strike (Fuchs seriously works my nerve on that). It is like they think their job is to walk so they are watching pitches on the black. I was looking at strikeouts as a percentage of outs. Thomas Dukart has struck out each time that he has climbed into the batter's box. Second is Paul Myro IV, striking out at an 88% clip. Third is Mason Guerra striking out at a 68% clip. Fourth is Brady Kasper striking out at a 56% clip. Fifth is Greg Fuchs striking out at a 41% clip. This is probably why you are not seeing Thomas, Myro, Guerra and Kasper all that much. Among players with more than one at bat, Guerra is fourth on the team in OBP. Fuchs is eighth. Myro is 10th. Trosky is 11th. Dernedde is 13th. Kasper is 14th. Gretler is 17th. Thomas Dukart is dead last, 18th. You have to play Fuchs or Guerra at DH. They get on. Both also strike out a lot. Interesting. Didn't realize that Guerra struck out at such a high percentage. His batting average is good so it's almost like he either strikes out or gets on. I like irimi's idea of possibly using Bazzana as DH. If Trosky is going to keep playing 2nd and Dernedde's glove is too valuable to take him out, the Beavers have to find a way to get Bazzana's bat back on track. He's too talented to ride the pine. BTW.. this is your cousin, Brandon. I read the board frequently and decided to start adding to the conversation. |
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