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Post by nuclearbeaver on May 1, 2022 7:14:35 GMT -8
That’s gonna be a box score deep dive. He lost plenty of games where we were up at half time. I’ll message you when I get time to get data. You are going to be disappointed in your research, besides the Alamo bowl there are hardly any late collapse games by Riley. He was generally genius in frustrating the fans while salting away games with long time consuming drives that sometimes led to no points, but took the air out of the ball and led to victory. I never said anything about losses. I found about two games a year where we almost lost or did lose after big 2nd/3rd quarter leads. I stopped looking after 2009 civil war for my own sanity. Message me if you want the list.
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Post by beaver55to7 on May 1, 2022 7:18:22 GMT -8
You are going to be disappointed in your research, besides the Alamo bowl there are hardly any late collapse games by Riley. He was generally genius in frustrating the fans while salting away games with long time consuming drives that sometimes led to no points, but took the air out of the ball and led to victory. I never said anything about losses. I found about two games a year where we almost lost or did lose after big 2nd/3rd quarter leads. I stopped looking after 2009 civil war for my own sanity. Message me if you want the list. “almost lost” lol
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Post by beaverbeliever71 on May 1, 2022 7:20:18 GMT -8
You are going to be disappointed in your research, besides the Alamo bowl there are hardly any late collapse games by Riley. He was generally genius in frustrating the fans while salting away games with long time consuming drives that sometimes led to no points, but took the air out of the ball and led to victory. I never said anything about losses. I found about two games a year where we almost lost or did lose after big 2nd/3rd quarter leads. I stopped looking after 2009 civil war for my own sanity. Message me if you want the list. Actually you did. Read your post. You say in your post "He LOST plenty of games where we were up at half time".
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Post by beaverbeliever71 on May 1, 2022 7:22:50 GMT -8
Just curious. What game did the Beavers ever lose under Riley, taking their "foot off the gas?" That’s gonna be a box score deep dive. He lost plenty of games where we were up at half time. I’ll message you when I get time to get data. You say in your post "He LOST plenty of games where we were up at half time". Did I misread it? That sounds like you were talking about losses. I could be wrong I guess. You say you never said anything about losses. lol
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Post by nuclearbeaver on May 1, 2022 10:03:40 GMT -8
That’s gonna be a box score deep dive. He lost plenty of games where we were up at half time. I’ll message you when I get time to get data. You say in your post "He LOST plenty of games where we were up at half time". Did I misread it? That sounds like you were talking about losses. I could be wrong I guess. You say you never said anything about losses. lol Got me there, I was looking at the top post.
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Post by irimi on May 1, 2022 10:57:43 GMT -8
I wasn’t upset that he ran, though I did think it was unnecessary. I was upset he got caught. Meckler’s aggression is great, but sometimes he’s a bit cocky, I think.
And not having Pac 12 I didn’t see the game, but Parker made it sound like Meckler wasn’t vacating the field in a respectable/timely manner after getting thrown out. Sounded like the 3b coach wasn’t happy.
I’ll let Canham deal with the fallout…whether to teach Meckler not to push the advantage or whether to praise his initiative.
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Post by irimi on May 1, 2022 11:05:21 GMT -8
You say in your post "He LOST plenty of games where we were up at half time". Did I misread it? That sounds like you were talking about losses. I could be wrong I guess. You say you never said anything about losses. lol Got me there, I was looking at the top post. You have to be careful talking about Riley here. If you say he was great, they’ll jump on and tell you what a rotten guy he was leaving us twice…and some say leaving us with a depleted roster. If you say he was mediocre, others will pipe in and talk about how he saved the program and the school. It’s a no-win situation.
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Post by zeroposter on May 1, 2022 11:39:07 GMT -8
I wasn’t upset that he ran, though I did think it was unnecessary. I was upset he got caught. Meckler’s aggression is great, but sometimes he’s a bit cocky, I think. And not having Pac 12 I didn’t see the game, but Parker made it sound like Meckler wasn’t vacating the field in a respectable/timely manner after getting thrown out. Sounded like the 3b coach wasn’t happy. I’ll let Canham deal with the fallout…whether to teach Meckler not to push the advantage or whether to praise his initiative. It is a delicate balance with Meckler. He is fiercely competitive, and the coaches and fans love that aspect, but a player simply can’t argue with an umpire. He is so key to the team that getting tossed and missing field time would hurt the Beavers.
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Post by beaverboilermaker on May 1, 2022 12:21:46 GMT -8
I wasn’t upset that he ran, though I did think it was unnecessary. I was upset he got caught. Meckler’s aggression is great, but sometimes he’s a bit cocky, I think. And not having Pac 12 I didn’t see the game, but Parker made it sound like Meckler wasn’t vacating the field in a respectable/timely manner after getting thrown out. Sounded like the 3b coach wasn’t happy. I’ll let Canham deal with the fallout…whether to teach Meckler not to push the advantage or whether to praise his initiative. My thought was that Wade wanted in on the SB party with Melton making it seem easy against the Utes. I also suspect MC and RG did not want a play like that to provide either motivation or momentum for Utah going into a rubber game. Going on a full count would make sense, but not going when he did. If that’s the worst play Wade makes all season… that’s a really great season!
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Post by nuclearbeaver on May 1, 2022 12:32:45 GMT -8
Got me there, I was looking at the top post. You have to be careful talking about Riley here. If you say he was great, they’ll jump on and tell you what a rotten guy he was leaving us twice…and some say leaving us with a depleted roster. If you say he was mediocre, others will pipe in and talk about how he saved the program and the school. It’s a no-win situation. I noticed its a bit of an emotional topic lolol
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Post by hottubbeaver on May 1, 2022 13:39:45 GMT -8
A few days ago I looked up double play stats compared to past seasons thinking we have fewer this year. At today's rate we'll be just fine. I’d rather have the strikeouts, pop ups, and ground outs. Double plays are nice for when we’re in trouble. Hard to argue with that. Turning the DP with frequency has been a trademark for OSU defenses over the past couple decades so, when they aren't as common it seems a bit weird even when it may be for good reason.
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Post by irimi on May 1, 2022 14:15:58 GMT -8
I’d rather have the strikeouts, pop ups, and ground outs. Double plays are nice for when we’re in trouble. Hard to argue with that. Turning the DP with frequency has been a trademark for OSU defenses over the past couple decades so, when they aren't as common it seems a bit weird even when it may be for good reason. I know, right?! I still love them, especially when they shut down a threat. And they seem to suck the wind out of the other team’s sails. But if we’re keeping runners off the bases in other ways, I don’t mind. Hjerpe has been a maniac with the strikeouts. Kmatz gets the batters to hit it right to our guys. Ferrer is a mix of the two, I think.
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