nksuwu
Freshman
Longtime Beaver fan...especially WBB
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Post by nksuwu on Apr 13, 2022 15:22:44 GMT -8
From this article it appears that Taylor Chavez,, 5-10 RS-Jr. G from Arizona (and former Duck) may be entering the portal. She was 6th Player of the Year at Oregon in 2020 when she hit 47% of her 3's, but did not play much at AZ, only 11.7 mins/g and scored only 2.4 this past season. Probably has two years of eligibility left. This should make 8 AZ players in the portal and leaves only 5 players left on their roster with 4 recruits coming in next year (#8 recruiting class per ESPN Hoopgurlz). Adia will be working the portal hard as you know. www.azdesertswarm.com/basketball/2022/4/13/23023892/arizona-womens-basketball-bendu-yeaney-semaj-smith-paris-clark
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Post by blodgettbeaver on Apr 13, 2022 16:10:28 GMT -8
OMG something drastically wrong must be happening at their program. Not towards poster just some sarcasm about the hand ringing going on from some posters about our program.
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Post by beaverwbb fan on Apr 13, 2022 17:45:17 GMT -8
She’s not entering the portal per this source:
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Post by fridaynightlights on Apr 13, 2022 17:56:08 GMT -8
It is getting to the point with transfers and roster turnover that you have to rebuild your roster every season, if not from scratch, then close to it.
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Post by nwhoopfan on Apr 13, 2022 18:31:07 GMT -8
3 years at Oregon and 1 year at Arizona. Should have only 1 year of eligibility left. Don't know what happened to her, she keeps get less and less productive with each passing season. Adia is probably trying really hard to get rid of her.
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Post by nwhoopfan on Apr 13, 2022 18:32:19 GMT -8
It is getting to the point with transfers and roster turnover that you have to rebuild your roster every season, if not from scratch, then close to it. Yep. I wonder if this will send a bunch of coaches into retirement maybe a little earlier than they were planning. It's making my interest in college sports wane.
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Post by sparty on Apr 13, 2022 18:34:01 GMT -8
OMG something drastically wrong must be happening at their program. Not towards poster just some sarcasm about the hand ringing going on from some posters about our program. You don't like the way I run my program? Well then.....
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Post by rgeorge on Apr 13, 2022 18:40:58 GMT -8
It is getting to the point with transfers and roster turnover that you have to rebuild your roster every season, if not from scratch, then close to it. It seems that the rule change (Pac12, others?) of 4 yr guaranteed schollies should either change to 1 yr or player needs AD permission to transfer. The whole "coaches leave all the time so players should have equitable options" is fine. Then 1 yr scholarships should be fine.
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Post by nwhoopfan on Apr 13, 2022 19:28:51 GMT -8
It is getting to the point with transfers and roster turnover that you have to rebuild your roster every season, if not from scratch, then close to it. It seems that the rule change (Pac12, others?) of 4 yr guaranteed schollies should either change to 1 yr or player needs AD permission to transfer. The whole "coaches leave all the time so players should have equitable options" is fine. Then 1 yr scholarships should be fine. When has a coach ever coached at 3, 4, or even 5 different schools in a 4 or 5 year period? This has quickly become a false equivalency. There's some movement of assistant coaches on a regular basis, but not like this, and head coaches obviously don't change jobs on a yearly basis.
An exception that seems to prove the rule is that Kevin McGuff went from Xavier, spent 2 years at Washington, and then moved on to Ohio St. So that was 3 schools in a 4 year period, but that is extremely rare. Plus he was at Xavier for 9 years and has now been at tOSU for 9, so again not even remotely the same as the shuffle college athletes are collectively currently engaged in.
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Post by rgeorge on Apr 13, 2022 19:32:52 GMT -8
It seems that the rule change (Pac12, others?) of 4 yr guaranteed schollies should either change to 1 yr or player needs AD permission to transfer. The whole "coaches leave all the time so players should have equitable options" is fine. Then 1 yr scholarships should be fine. When has a coach ever coached at 3, 4, or even 5 different schools in a 4 or 5 year period? This has quickly become a false equivalency. There's some movement of assistant coaches on a regular basis, but not like this, and head coaches obviously don't change jobs on a yearly basis.
An exception that seems to prove the rule is that Kevin McGuff went from Xavier, spent 2 years at Washington, and then moved on to Ohio St. So that was 3 schools in a 4 year period, but that is extremely rare. Plus he was at Xavier for 9 years and has now been at tOSU for 9, so again not even remotely the same as the shuffle college athletes are collectively currently engaged in.
Not sure if you're disagreeing or agreeing. But, I think we're saying the same thing??
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Post by beaverstever on Apr 13, 2022 20:18:12 GMT -8
Coaches don’t have eligibility limits either. Hey, maybe the NCAA will change that too! Since the facade of amateur athletes is off, why limit their career length?!
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Post by bvrbooster on Apr 13, 2022 20:42:16 GMT -8
3 years at Oregon and 1 year at Arizona. Should have only 1 year of eligibility left. Don't know what happened to her, she keeps get less and less productive with each passing season. Adia is probably trying really hard to get rid of her. Reading that post, it just sounds like she's decided that 4 years of college basketball is enough, so she's opting out of her covid year - the exact same thing that Aleah did. With 7 already leaving the program, I don't see why Barnes would push hard to get rid of her. She might not plan on using her much, and has probably communicated that to her, but she has plenty of roster spots to fill through the portal already. I would think that her odds of finding one better than Chavez to fill that spot might be minimal. I would imagine that, last year at this time, Scott had conversations with Aleah, Ellie, and Jovanna about their covid years. He probably told Jovanna that she wouldn't see much playing time, but her interest was in getting a second Masters, not playing time, so she stayed. He probably told Aleah she'd be a starter and backbone of the team again, but she felt she was finished. And he probably told Ellie she'd see significant minutes off the bench, and she wanted to get that PAC 12 experience she was denied previously, so she stayed. It's easy to make the assumption that Scott would be honest with his players because we believe in his decency. I think that, absent evidence to the contrary, we should make that same assumption about other coaches, even if they're not exactly our favorites.
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Post by believeinthebeavs on Apr 13, 2022 21:01:46 GMT -8
Aleah left because she had a shot at the wnba.
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Post by beaverstever on Apr 13, 2022 21:45:36 GMT -8
Aleah left because she had a shot at the wnba. Her pro career sure was short - I wonder why she didn’t try longer and play overseas for a while. My impression was that the WNBA opportunity kind of developed late in her college career (and was pretty slim anyway) and she was ready to move to the next chapter of her career in coaching. I really have no idea, I just feel if the WNBA was her dream, she would have kept it in play a little longer.
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Post by fridaynightlights on Apr 14, 2022 3:42:42 GMT -8
It is only a matter of time until there are players transferring between rival schools such as OSU and Oregon. I think it has happened a few times in football before, but I don't remember it ever happening in basketball? Most players don't have the same level of animosity towards rival schools or take the rivalry as personally as fans do, especially if they are from out of state. Some of them were recruited by both schools and have relationships with the other teams coaches and players. When it happens I am guessing it will create a degree of hostility and mixed emotions for many fans.
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