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Post by rmancarl on Apr 8, 2022 9:02:49 GMT -8
I read that Graves visited Taya Hanson the ASU transfer in Tempe last week in order to talk to her about transferring to Oregon. I am assuming SR and his staff are working the phones and on the road as we speak recruiting transfers. Many of the best transfers probably already have a pretty good idea what schools they are interested in, and if they don't they will soon. The next month are going to be crucial in determining what the team will look like next season. You seldom hear much about what the Beavs are up to. Just a little bit of following social media, and you will see that Adia Barnes is on the road trying to add transfers. Obviously, Graves is as well. An assumption would be that the Beaver staff is doing the same thing. We would probably all feel better if we saw the evidence that the Beavs were out there as well, but news around the Beaver program has always been quiet. They've got the job done in recruiting highly ranked recruits in recent years, now they have to show us they can get it done with talented transfers. They can definitely offer playing time, but there are some things working against them as well.
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Post by sparty on Apr 8, 2022 9:10:17 GMT -8
I read that Graves visited Taya Hanson the ASU transfer in Tempe last week in order to talk to her about transferring to Oregon. I am assuming SR and his staff are working the phones and on the road as we speak recruiting transfers. Many of the best transfers probably already have a pretty good idea what schools they are interested in, and if they don't they will soon. The next month are going to be crucial in determining what the team will look like next season. You seldom hear much about what the Beavs are up to. Just a little bit of following social media, and you will see that Adia Barnes is on the road trying to add transfers. Obviously, Graves is as well. An assumption would be that the Beaver staff is doing the same thing. We would probably all feel better if we saw the evidence that the Beavs were out there as well, but news around the Beaver program has always been quiet. They've got the job done in recruiting highly ranked recruits in recent years, now they have to show us they can get it done with talented transfers. They can definitely offer playing time, but there are some things working against them as well. Anyone know why that is? Even the spring football there is a lot of Ucks coverage and I don’t mean traditional media. Could it be that the new social media reporters are some how funded by the University in Spewgene?
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Post by rafer on Apr 8, 2022 9:12:53 GMT -8
So we had 3 transfer which is par for the course currently in womens basketball. We had 4 graduate one of which had 1 year left but is getting her masters paid for elsewhere. We have 4 talented ladies scheduled to come in and compete with the 4 we already have. That is 8 people we never have a full bench. Will pick up a pg for sure which we needed before all this and a couple of position players. Sky is not falling take a deep breath. You would think we lost these players off of a championship team the way people are freaking out. I’m so far from “freaking out” it’s impossible to put into words. Just pointing out the position the team is in now. You point out the losses as if they were to be expected. Ok, if you can see that surely CR could/should have seen it coming and had a contingency plan to reload. I also wouldn’t chisel 4 incoming Freshman in until they are in school as we all know how those things can go. Maybe CR is on the verge of landing a couple of great transfers. I hope so! If not, this team will be razor thin next year. That’s all. This team is on the edge of the cliff, period. If SR isn't in a state of panic, he doesn't understand he situation. Any coach that sees his team not even able to scrounge up enough bodies to scrimmage better be in a state of panic or they are incompetent. That doesn't mean the situation is terminal, but unless your sniffing glue, you'd better understand that as of right now, your bona fides as a viable and contending D1 program is barely hanging on. The simple fact that the OSU WBB program has fallen so fast is rapidly becoming a serious issue and one that likely needs some investigation into what is happening inside the team and staff. There will be some scars before this is over, IMO..
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Post by Henry Skrimshander on Apr 8, 2022 9:32:05 GMT -8
Rafer's idea of the Beaver fan base this week. It's Lloyd Bridges day at Benny's House.
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Post by rafer on Apr 8, 2022 10:07:17 GMT -8
Rafer's idea of the Beaver fan base this week. It's Lloyd Bridges day at Benny's House. Hmmm, reading comprehension not a strong suit? Said nothing about fan base, but indeed believe the program is in a mess right now, your opinion may vary! The longer SR is silent about what they may or may not be accomplishing to right the ship. That doesn't mean talking about why they left necessarily, maybe talking about what the staff may be working on, build up and try to portray a feeling of, "we are working hard to replace XXX, or position XXX, something to in fact give fans a reason to continue to support the program, encourage fans to support the program and stay involved. Silence is risky and leaves too much to speculation, nbetter to be up front and communicate , but that;s just IMO.
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Post by Werebeaver on Apr 8, 2022 10:14:13 GMT -8
It appears that this board has officially entered into “melt-down” mode.
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Post by flyfishinbeav on Apr 8, 2022 10:54:41 GMT -8
The transfer portal giveth, and the transfer portal taketh away....
I'm gonna wait and see what SR pulls outta the portal before I panic.
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Post by beavertd on Apr 8, 2022 11:09:17 GMT -8
I personally don't see the women's program as being on "the edge of a cliff". Tinkle and the men's team, yes that argument can be made and more.
The winning percentages in the past four seasons for the women are as follows: 26-8 .778 23-9 .765 12-8 .600 17-14 .548
The trend is definitely concerning, but this team is still continues to have a winning record and winning games in the post season. SR and the team has been hurt by a combination of portal defections, injuries and a lack of 4 year starters.
I agree with most here that we cannot continue our winning ways by continually hitting the "reset" button each off season. And starting a pile of talented but inexperienced freshman is not a long term recipe for success. Ellie Mack proved the staff can bring in quality PAC-12 level talent. (It did take her awhile to adapt).
I don't know how many portal transfers become major conference starters after transferring? I would guess the vast majority do not. I would be thrilled if we hit on one or two this cycle. Might be asking for too much.
We are far from being on the edge of a cliff in my opinion. Give the coaching staff a chance to respond to the recent defections by adding more players. See how quickly the incoming freshmen adapt. Look for the results next fall. If we end with a losing record and the coaching staff failed to bring in enough talent to replace the losses, then the "edge of the cliff" remark will definitely hold water. And SR and staff should be given a much shorter leash by the AD in the coming season. (Just as in Tinkle's case).
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Post by rgeorge on Apr 8, 2022 11:21:34 GMT -8
I personally don't see the women's program as being on "the edge of a cliff". Tinkle and the men's team, yes that argument can be made and more. The winning percentages in the past four seasons for the women are as follows: 26-8 .778 23-9 .765 12-8 .600 17-14 .548 The trend is definitely concerning, but this team is still continues to have a winning record and winning games in the post season. SR and the team has been hurt by a combination of portal defections, injuries and a lack of 4 year starters. I agree with most here that we cannot continue our winning ways by continually hitting the "reset" button each off season. And starting a pile of talented but inexperienced freshman is not a long term recipe for success. Ellie Mack proved the staff can bring in quality PAC-12 level talent. (It did take her awhile to adapt). I don't know how many portal transfers become major conference starters after transferring? I would guess the vast majority do not. I would be thrilled if we hit on one or two this cycle. Might be asking for too much. We are far from being on the edge of a cliff in my opinion. Give the coaching staff a chance to respond to the recent defections by adding more players. See how quickly the incoming freshmen adapt. Look for the results next fall. If we end with a losing record and the coaching staff failed to bring in enough talent to replace the losses, then the "edge of the cliff" remark will definitely hold water. And SR and staff should be given a much shorter leash by the AD in the coming season. (Just as in Tinkle's case). I can agree with almost all of this post, except: " And SR and staff should be given a much shorter leash by the AD in the coming season. (Just as in Tinkle's case)." Mentioning the two programs' "leashes" as almost a comparison is a bit far fetched. Unless there is some unknown issues within SR's program that are fairly severe, his leash probably hasn't even been purchased yet, let alone the length determined.
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Post by blodgettbeaver on Apr 8, 2022 11:25:21 GMT -8
Breaking News: ...... Anytime a team graduates 5 players they will have to scrounge up more to scrimmage.
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Post by sparty on Apr 8, 2022 11:54:17 GMT -8
Rafer's idea of the Beaver fan base this week. It's Lloyd Bridges day at Benny's House. And this............a lot are swinging the hammer. If no movement by the end of next week then lets re-access.
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Post by sparty on Apr 8, 2022 11:56:30 GMT -8
I personally don't see the women's program as being on "the edge of a cliff". Tinkle and the men's team, yes that argument can be made and more. The winning percentages in the past four seasons for the women are as follows: 26-8 .778 23-9 .765 12-8 .600 17-14 .548 The trend is definitely concerning, but this team is still continues to have a winning record and winning games in the post season. SR and the team has been hurt by a combination of portal defections, injuries and a lack of 4 year starters. I agree with most here that we cannot continue our winning ways by continually hitting the "reset" button each off season. And starting a pile of talented but inexperienced freshman is not a long term recipe for success. Ellie Mack proved the staff can bring in quality PAC-12 level talent. (It did take her awhile to adapt). I don't know how many portal transfers become major conference starters after transferring? I would guess the vast majority do not. I would be thrilled if we hit on one or two this cycle. Might be asking for too much. We are far from being on the edge of a cliff in my opinion. Give the coaching staff a chance to respond to the recent defections by adding more players. See how quickly the incoming freshmen adapt. Look for the results next fall. If we end with a losing record and the coaching staff failed to bring in enough talent to replace the losses, then the "edge of the cliff" remark will definitely hold water. And SR and staff should be given a much shorter leash by the AD in the coming season. (Just as in Tinkle's case). He can run like a stray dog until his contract runs out in 2031.
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Post by beavertd on Apr 8, 2022 11:58:40 GMT -8
I personally don't see the women's program as being on "the edge of a cliff". Tinkle and the men's team, yes that argument can be made and more. The winning percentages in the past four seasons for the women are as follows: 26-8 .778 23-9 .765 12-8 .600 17-14 .548 The trend is definitely concerning, but this team is still continues to have a winning record and winning games in the post season. SR and the team has been hurt by a combination of portal defections, injuries and a lack of 4 year starters. I agree with most here that we cannot continue our winning ways by continually hitting the "reset" button each off season. And starting a pile of talented but inexperienced freshman is not a long term recipe for success. Ellie Mack proved the staff can bring in quality PAC-12 level talent. (It did take her awhile to adapt). I don't know how many portal transfers become major conference starters after transferring? I would guess the vast majority do not. I would be thrilled if we hit on one or two this cycle. Might be asking for too much. We are far from being on the edge of a cliff in my opinion. Give the coaching staff a chance to respond to the recent defections by adding more players. See how quickly the incoming freshmen adapt. Look for the results next fall. If we end with a losing record and the coaching staff failed to bring in enough talent to replace the losses, then the "edge of the cliff" remark will definitely hold water. And SR and staff should be given a much shorter leash by the AD in the coming season. (Just as in Tinkle's case). I can agree with almost all of this post, except: " And SR and staff should be given a much shorter leash by the AD in the coming season. (Just as in Tinkle's case)." Mentioning the two programs' "leashes" as almost a comparison is a bit far fetched. Unless there is some unknown issues within SR's program that are fairly severe, his leash probably hasn't even been purchased yet, let alone the length determined. I didn't phrase that well. I should have said the AD needs to start holding SR and Staff more accountable if we have a losing season and unable to replace the losses beyond graduation. Scott's leash is miles longer than Tinkle's, which at this point is probably a shock collar! Lol!
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Post by rgeorge on Apr 8, 2022 12:01:08 GMT -8
I can agree with almost all of this post, except: " And SR and staff should be given a much shorter leash by the AD in the coming season. (Just as in Tinkle's case)." Mentioning the two programs' "leashes" as almost a comparison is a bit far fetched. Unless there is some unknown issues within SR's program that are fairly severe, his leash probably hasn't even been purchased yet, let alone the length determined. I didn't phrase that well. I should have said the AD needs to start holding SR and Staff more accountable if we have a losing season and unable to replace the losses beyond graduation. Scott's leash is miles longer than Tinkle's, which at this point is probably a shock collar! Lol! Yeah... leash for WT should be gone.
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Post by fridaynightlights on Apr 8, 2022 13:14:53 GMT -8
If the woman's program is on the "edge of a cliff" then the men's program is a lifeless body on the rocks below the cliffs.
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