dd
Freshman
Posts: 6 
|
Post by dd on Mar 24, 2022 23:33:10 GMT -8
Why have Sunday performances the past two weekends been woefully inadequate? Hangover Sunday? What would you be doing Saturday night after crushing the opponent two straight? What else is there to do in a college town on a Saturday night? LOL. Just saying.
|
|
|
|
Post by beaver56 on Mar 25, 2022 6:42:21 GMT -8
I would think the kids on our Beaver team are committed to trying to perform at their peak for the season and can refrain from going out on a Saturday night before a game
|
|
|
|
Post by irimi on Mar 25, 2022 8:37:05 GMT -8
Why have Sunday performances the past two weekends been woefully inadequate? Hangover Sunday? What would you be doing Saturday night after crushing the opponent two straight? What else is there to do in a college town on a Saturday night? LOL. Just saying. It’s the beautiful thing about baseball. Each game is a different set of circumstances. Different pitchers, different umpires, different weather. It’s baseball. It’s why the game is interesting. |
|
|
|
Post by Henry Skrimshander on Mar 25, 2022 13:24:17 GMT -8
We pitched very well this past Sunday, two hits and no runs over 8.1 innings. We should have won that game, but when your staff gives up only three runs on a Sunday the onus is on the offense if you don't win. Especially if you scored 33 runs the previous two games.
Any proof at all that the team was not prepared to play Sunday because it partied on Saturday night, as has been implied?
|
|
|
|
Post by wilkyisdashiznit on Mar 25, 2022 14:04:15 GMT -8
Why have Sunday performances the past two weekends been woefully inadequate? Hangover Sunday? What would you be doing Saturday night after crushing the opponent two straight? What else is there to do in a college town on a Saturday night? LOL. Just saying. Three weekends? Fewest runs scored: 1. March 20 (Sunday) Arizona State @ Oregon State
2. March 6 (Sunday) UC Irvine @ Oregon State
Most runs allowed:
1. March 16 (Wednesday) Grand Canyon @ Oregon State
2. March 13 (Sunday) Oregon State @ Washington State
Those are all four of Oregon State's losses on the season.
They come in two flavors: not scoring enough runs and allowing too many.
Arizona State's Sunday starter, Tyler Meyer, is (I believe) a redshirt freshman transfer from Stanislaus State. Meyer started in the bullpen but was promoted to midweek starter. The Oregon State game was only Meyer's second weekend start on the year. Meyer got shelled by San Francisco on four days' rest, putting Arizona State in a 6-1 hole that the Devils eventually turned into a 17-10 win. Meyer did just about as good against Oregon State as he did against Oklahoma State: 6 IP, 4 H, 1 ER, 2 BB, 4 K, 1 HR, 1 WP and 1 HBP. The bullpen came on and gave up 6 runs (4 earned) in three innings to turn the 4-1 lead into a 7-5 loss. Meyer also pitched five innings of two-hit shutout ball in his first start with six strikeouts. Meyer could be good. We'll see. The game turned on the bullpen melting down and allowing three runs in the top of the ninth on three walks and two hits. Guerra singled to start off the bottom of the ninth, but all three batters who followed Guerra struck out swinging.
Irvine's Sunday starter, Danny Suarez, is a true freshman. Suarez has been the Sunday starter all season. Suarez allowed the most hits against Oregon State but only gave up the run on Melton's shot to right center. Boyd got caught stealing in the fourth and Fuchs couldn't bunt Forrester over in the seventh. The game turned on Verburg serving up pitch 21 for Thomas McCaffrey, who deposited the ball over the fence in right center.
Mitchell Verburg gave up the winning runs in each of the last three Sunday losses (although Verburg inherited a bases loaded situation against Arizona State). And seems to be the constant in the Sunday losses.
The last four times that AJ Lattery has pitched have each ended in losses. Although to be fair, Lattery only gave up a run in the Grand Canyon game, allowing two for the loss.
Brock Townsend's last three games have each been losses, although Townsend only really got rocked in Pullman. Townsend only pitched one inning in the Grand Canyon game since giving up four earned runs in 3.1 innings in Pullman.
Jayson Hibbard gave up three runs apiece to both Wazzu and Grand Canyon in consecutive appearances, letting Wazzu back into the ball game and digging a deeper hole against Grand Canyon. Hibbard looked good in his one inning in the 21-0 win over Arizona State.
David Grewe and Victor Quinn pitched like hot garbage against Grand Canyon each giving up three runs and have not pitched since.
The 13 runs allowed in the Grand Canyon game are a statistical outlier. |
|
|
|
Post by grackle on Mar 26, 2022 10:03:50 GMT -8
A major part of the reason for the last two Sunday 9th inning losses....the Dorman/Canham 9th inning "logic" to pull pitchers who'd been lights out in favor of their favored (and, IMO, arbitrary) "closers."
Stupid decisions apparently based on what a lot of MLB managers seem to do as well. This is college ball..not the major leagues...if something ain't broke, don't fix it. If you've got a pitcher who's been lights out in the 6th, 7th and/or 8th, then let him start the 9th for god's sake.
|
|
|
|
Post by irimi on Mar 26, 2022 10:38:25 GMT -8
A major part of the reason for the last two Sunday 9th inning losses....the Dorman/Canham 9th inning "logic" to pull pitchers who'd been lights out in favor of their favored (and, IMO, arbitrary) "closers." Stupid decisions apparently based on what a lot of MLB managers seem to do as well. This is college ball..not the major leagues...if something ain't broke, don't fix it. If you've got a pitcher who's been lights out in the 6th, 7th and/or 8th, then let him start the 9th for god's sake. I know what you are saying because it was sort of painful against ASU. But logically, we’ve got to put the closer in those situations. Trial by fire, unfortunately. |
|
|
|
Post by grackle on Mar 26, 2022 10:49:32 GMT -8
I hear ya' Irmi, but if you really don't have a proven closer, just let whoever's been hot finish the 9th and take the W.
|
|
|
|
Post by zeroposter on Mar 26, 2022 12:01:22 GMT -8
Mitch Canham did say in Surprise that the Beavers would stick with the hot pitcher rather than go to a specific closer. Ferrer was dominant on Sunday, but he was also gassed. He was losing velocity and command which was very unfortunate because he had mastered the umpire’s zone. I still have confidence in MitchV, but I don’t think MitchV has confidence in MitchV. He was definitely working on containing his emotions during his midweek appearance this week. Still, if the set-up guy is rolling, stay with the set-up guy—unless he is gassed of course.
|
|
|
|
Post by beavermd on Mar 26, 2022 12:03:06 GMT -8
I hear ya' Irmi, but if you really don't have a proven closer, just let whoever's been hot finish the 9th and take the W. It’s a great plan until the pitcher who’s been hot, comes back and blows the lead. For example, on Wednesday Ryan Brown pitched a strong 6th preserving out 3-0 lead. He came back for the 7th and promptly gave up 3 runs. Guys are hot until they’re not. |
|
|
|
Post by bvogrande on Mar 26, 2022 12:04:27 GMT -8
Brown was throwing well enough to start the 9th. He was ahead of the 2 batters he faced in the 8th. Run him back out there, and if he stumbles, then you still have your "closer" who didn't get ahead of anyone except the guy that whacked the double after Long's walk. I know, I know, logically and all that, but still, it's hard to argue when a guy is getting outs.
|
|
|
|
Post by wilkyisdashiznit on Mar 26, 2022 12:22:18 GMT -8
Why have Sunday performances the past two weekends been woefully inadequate? Hangover Sunday? What would you be doing Saturday night after crushing the opponent two straight? What else is there to do in a college town on a Saturday night? LOL. Just saying. Just to tack onto my previous post. Two of the four losses have been against freshman starters. It may be that Oregon State did not have the tape to prepare properly. |
|
|
|
Post by 56chevy on Mar 26, 2022 12:23:40 GMT -8
We had Sunday trouble in 2018 through the month of April, at which point a young freshman pitcher from San Deigo stepped up...that all turned out well.
|
|
|
|
Post by wilkyisdashiznit on Mar 26, 2022 13:01:28 GMT -8
We had Sunday trouble in 2018 through the month of April, at which point a young freshman pitcher from San Diego stepped up...that all turned out well. 2018 Oregon State's record in the final eight third day (Sundays, usually) in the regular season: 2-5-1 2018 Oregon state's record on all other days in the regular season: 42-5
Kevin Abel only really started to step up in the final weekend. |
|
|
|
Post by Judge Smails on Mar 26, 2022 14:26:51 GMT -8
Why have Sunday performances the past two weekends been woefully inadequate? Hangover Sunday? What would you be doing Saturday night after crushing the opponent two straight? What else is there to do in a college town on a Saturday night? LOL. Just saying. Just to tack onto my previous post. Two of the four losses have been against freshman starters. It may be that Oregon State did not have the tape to prepare properly. You just dated yourself with your “tape” comment. Maybe they needed some slides or some 8mm on those pitchers. |
|
